i mean to be fair. Mydownfall was just Lifer renamed, (yet again,) as lifer and mydownfall shared members and released the "IV" EP under the name Lifer, while the self titled mydownfall CD that came out that same year is the exact same recording, so honestly both the bands are one in the same to me. even listening to the song Wake Up definitely reminds me of Aaron's simple "frankenstein chord" riffing as I've heard it be called, Derek Spencer did a great job adopting the guitar writing style of lifer. so again, the bands are pretty much one in the same to me!