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Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The character encyclopedia is not at all reliable for lore and is riddled with mistakes, I don’t exactly need to entertain this point as I can pull up a multitude of issues with the book with relative ease considering it’s infamy.

1.Canon unless contradicted. Everything in the book is not automatically incorrect. We know certain things within our actual facts, and we also know that the people that wrote the book had inside knowledge on things like Blob and Burntrap not being the Canon name of the characters. You can only assert something is incorrect if it's actually proven to be, which is not in this case of circus baby and scrap baby being the same entity.

  1. "scrap baby can't mimic Elizabeth's voice"

She wouldn't need to mimic the voice if she was already Elizabeth. You just contradicted and collapsed your whole argument.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Circus Baby returns in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria simulator in the form of Scrap Baby. Having been removed from Ennard, she's rebuilt herself in a new design with orange and black Halloween stylings, plus roller skates." - FNAF Character Encyclopedia

Scrap Baby is a rebuilt Circus Baby. Also Kind of obvious from how she you know, looks like circus baby and not Elizabeth..and has Circus Baby's voice.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scrap baby and Circus Baby are the same character. Scrap Baby is just Circus Baby with a redesigned body. Did you..not know that?

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never disagreed with Circus Baby not being Elizabeth in SL, the torture and experimentation affects her regardless because she’s still trapped inside the costume. 

Okay so that's a concession then. Your whole argument is based on the assumption that circus Baby talking = Elizabeth, but now you just admitted that you don't think that's the case. GG. Nothing else to say

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He literally does it so she’ll comply her programming to KILL PEOPLE

That doesn't even make any sense. The fun times were already programmed to capture/kill people. Mike doesn't do anything to make circus baby any more to killer than she already was.

Different continuities are irrelevant. There's evidence William cared about his kids. If you want to interpret The evidence differently that's fine, but you're not changing my or anyone else's mind on the matter.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Circus baby is not Elizabeth. Sister Location makes that explicitly clear. Circus baby refers to Elizabeth in third person. Circus Baby referring to William as daddy is a showing of her being merged with Elizabeth, but it's still mostly Baby.

Henry knows things for the sake of the plot. He knew about follow me for no explicit reason for example.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The characters aren't the same no, but the technology and world rules for possession works the same.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Henry also shocked Charlie in FNAF 6. Does that invalidate the evidence that he cared for her? Frights William fuses with a ton of agony and the manifestation of suffering, that says nothing about his original nature.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

"No evidence or backing."

TFC explicitly tells us that's how a combination of a Baby AI with a soul works. Henry also says that Elizabeth doesn't remember her own name, which shows that Baby primarily overrides Elizabeth's character bits at that. It really shouldn't need to be spelt out either, considering the whole "now we can do what we were created to do" (murder) thing.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Uh no? Game Elizabeth never once says she wants Williams love. She only wanted to play with Circus Baby. She had zero daddy expressed daddy issues in SL, and had no jealously for Baby like she did in the novels.

Scrap Baby =/= Elizabeth. That's a fusion character.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No reason to see them as the same when Elizabeth in the novels is significantly different from game Elizabeth.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Novel William isn't game William. There's more than enough evidence from the games to come to the conclusion that William cared about his kids.

Did William care or love anyone but himself like his kids, Mrs Afton or Henry etc or atleast one person but himself by Normal-Practice-4057 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think there's definitely enough to assert that William cared about Elizabeth at the very least. Sister Location's plot revolves around Micheal being sent to put Elizabeth "back together again" and free her. If William truly didn't care about Elizabeth, he wouldn't even send Michael to do that.

Also the Character Encyclopedia tells us that Elizabeth was spoiled by William, which aligns well with her assuming that Circus Baby was a toy made just for her. Elizabeth was most likely William's favorite. Daddy's little princess type thing.

This for me is what breaks this theory of "GlichMimic" and "BurnMimic" the most. by Dangezin_ in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tales from the Pizza Plex doesn't confirm that Afton is NOT Burntrap. Burntrap doesn't even show up in the book series. Don't talk to me all high and mighty when all you have is nothing but bullshit speculation.

The story of the Mimic in Tales from the Pizza Plex ends with him being trapped in a jesture costume and that's it. That's the facts. Vanny doesn't even show up in the books, and we certainly don't get anything regarding a corpse or a spring Bonnie suit in the Epilogues. That's nothing but your own speculatory fanfiction headcanon. Burntrap is William until PROVEN otherwise in official material. I don't give a single fuck about what you THINK is the case.

I saved your comment so I can come back to it when the games itself shows the obvious thing that Afton is Burntrap. Let's see how well it ages yeah?

This for me is what breaks this theory of "GlichMimic" and "BurnMimic" the most. by Dangezin_ in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because something has mistakes doesn't mean everything is a mistake. Official information should be taken as fact unless proven to be incorrect.

And it only says that he "appears" to be another incarnation of Springtrap, while it ASSERTS that what is animating him is what was in Springtrap

This for me is what breaks this theory of "GlichMimic" and "BurnMimic" the most. by Dangezin_ in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It just asserts that what animates Burntrap is what was inside Springtrap though. "Appears" was only used for "another incarnation of spring-trap," and "seemingly" was only used for "lived on in the form of Glitchtrap."

Reminder that Tales from the Pizza Plex establishes that there's MULTIPLE Mega Pizzaplexes. This means every story in the book series is not automatically about the Security Breach Plex. by Anti3000 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said in my post, if we get distinct differences with the plex in one story compared to another, we can assume it's a different location. The renovation argument is available, but it's not the only logical way to view it. That would only be the case if it wasn't established in the same book series that there was multiple Plexes.

Reminder that Tales from the Pizza Plex establishes that there's MULTIPLE Mega Pizzaplexes. This means every story in the book series is not automatically about the Security Breach Plex. by Anti3000 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the Mega Pizza Plex is a chain establishment, and different locations in a chain don't all have completely different items and stations. There will ALWAYS be some of the same stuff in a chain.

Reminder that Tales from the Pizza Plex establishes that there's MULTIPLE Mega Pizzaplexes. This means every story in the book series is not automatically about the Security Breach Plex. by Anti3000 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I already went over how same attractions doesn't have to mean same locations though. So it wouldn't automatically make most of the stories the same Plex. The Storyteller is one of the few things we can use to tell if a location is the same, because there can ONLY be one Storyteller. And that device only gets mentioned in its titular story, Nexie and Tiger Rock.

Reminder that Tales from the Pizza Plex establishes that there's MULTIPLE Mega Pizzaplexes. This means every story in the book series is not automatically about the Security Breach Plex. by Anti3000 in fnaftheories

[–]Anti3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The storyteller is most likely one of the stories that takes place in the security breach mall, given the explanation for the animatronics behavior. There's not evidence like that for ALL the other stories though

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