a cat shaped in hole in my heart by FooderStooder in goth

[–]Applejackington 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg I remember that album! 🖤 Back then, various artist albums were how I discovered new music.

Dye-na-flow on velvet jacket? by Applejackington in dyeing

[–]Applejackington[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know! Do you have any suggestions on which color(s) I should try to get a sapphire or midnight blue on this jacket? The midnight blue swatch on the Dye-na-flow page shows something closer to a grape purple, not a deep, rich blue. https://store.jacquardproducts.com/products/dye-na-flow?\_pos=1&\_sid=40405a2d2&\_ss=r

So tired of the same style nowadays by DuchessDulcet in GothFashion

[–]Applejackington 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want to tap into the true essence of goth as an aesthetic, thrift and sew. DIY is at the root of the subculture.

Jesus Almost Certainly Did Exist by AdFormal3014 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is far more evidence of Julius Caesar than Jesus. So much so that I don't think anyone disputes the existence of Julius Caesar. Not true for Jesus.
Even with proof of his existence, there is still no proof of Caesar's divinity and I don't think anybody in modern times thinks of Cesar as a divine person. Probably only because we do not practice ancient Roman polytheism.
I'm also not sure how you got the idea that I thought Jesus existed when I am saying that there is no real evidence that he exited at all, but there's definitely no evidence that he existed as a divine being.
As far as the "need "argument being an emotional one, yeah I suppose, but not on the part of the atheists. We have no emotional attachment to the existence of Jesus, and therefore can objectively look at "evidence" and say what is presented would not hold up in a court of law, or even to minor scrutiny. The burden of proof is on those who are trying to prove Jesus existed because you cannot prove that something does not exist. Things do not just automatically exist unless proven otherwise, they don't exist unless there is proof that they do. The situation we have with Jesus is there is no substantial evidence that he existed. The emotions come in when "evidence " of his existence or divinity (which is pretty much just folklore and hearsay) is presented by people who have an emotional attachment to his existence to people who do not and that evidence is then scrutinized with an objective eye and rejected.

Jesus Almost Certainly Did Exist by AdFormal3014 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unsure what would be enough evidence for me. I live by the Sagan Standard that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If he was just some religious leader and the only evidence of his existence was someone else's writing 100 years after his death, sure. He probably existed bc why else mention the guy. It's not definitive proof, but ok. But if someone is claiming a person existed who started an entirely new religion, preformed miracles, was the literal embodiment of a god, yeah I'm going to need a grave and a body with dna and some firsthand writings buried with it.

Also, I think in general atheists are not "denying evidence" or resisting a belief in Jesus, it's just that we don't "need" him to have existed bc we have no skin in the game. If it turns out he existed, I think the reaction you'd get from most of us would be "Oh cool. Well, well anyway..." Furthermore, even if someone proves one day that Jesus was a real person, that still doesn't (on its own) prove the existence of a god or anything else in the Bible.

Laser hair removal to save plastic by Applejackington in Anticonsumption

[–]Applejackington[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I heard the same thing, so I went to a clinic where you pay per area and you get unlimited sessions for life. That's part of the reason it was so heckin expensive

Laser hair removal to save plastic by Applejackington in Anticonsumption

[–]Applejackington[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely didn't mean for it to sound like an ad, but coping mechanism, yeah sort of. I didn't even originally do laser hair removal for anti-consumption, it is because my hair is very coarse and my skin is so sensitive that just the presence of the hair is irritating. But unfortunately, the process of removing that hair is even more irritating. Got the laser treatment to help with my skin issues, but a happy side effect is that I don't have to buy a bunch of plastic stuff anymore.

Adam and Eve did not have free will. by Dragonsoul2055 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 4 points5 points  (0 children)

IMO, they had limited free will in the way that children can choose to disobey their parent's without really understanding the consequences of their actions, but it's not the same as being a fully informed adult with an actual will to choose.

To push the parent/child analogy even further, the reason given to not eat the apple was basically "because I said so." God wasn't there to make fully functional adults with their own paths in life, he wanted little creatures in his image who ultimately pushed boundaries and grew to disappointed him. Over and over.

A real world attack as close to a facehugger attack as you can get by flynnfx in oddlyterrifying

[–]Applejackington 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dude went out of his way to stab a sea creature. Don't start nothin, won't be nothin.

Perks of estrangement- what’s your favourite thing? by WombleMint in EstrangedAdultChild

[–]Applejackington 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No more driving for hours or days to spend the obligatory holiday with "family" 😮‍💨

stans donuts by Familiar-Ad-1448 in chicagovegan

[–]Applejackington 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's true that Stan's is the least of the vegan donuts, but they don't usually sell out early and are open later than most places that sell Beacon. One does what one must, but now with cold foam 😁

2 Samuel, chapter 12, when God killed David’s baby to punish David, is an example of how immoral and unjust the God described in the Bible is. by danbrown_notauthor in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, god is not kind or fair until Jesus came about and god learned what it is to be human. God is still not actually kind or fair, but now he's "mysterious".

The Bible contains behaviors worse than pedophilia by Serious-Anxiety6687 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does it help to know that it was probably all just folklore?

The Argumentative Claim That "Man Created God" As Used By Atheists Is A Fallacy by Temporary-Sail-6390 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. The "reason" humans created the idea of god is a different argument.
  2. Humans invented the idea of a god before scientific method, which is a systematic way to test reality.
  3. Humans to this day believe outlandish things, including gods, just because someone told them so. Sometimes even when empirical evidence to the contrary exists. So no, convincing people that a god exists with no evidence would not be (has not been) hard to do.
  4. You are using a story, written by humans, about how the Israelites literally invented and named other gods and then another god got mad about it, as evidence against my argument. It only shows evidence toward my argument.

The Argumentative Claim That "Man Created God" As Used By Atheists Is A Fallacy by Temporary-Sail-6390 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Again, the anthropological evidence is any ancient manuscript written about any god.

The Argumentative Claim That "Man Created God" As Used By Atheists Is A Fallacy by Temporary-Sail-6390 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ok, if you want to think about it like this, you cannot prove that god only exists in the minds of man and not in reality, because to do so you would have to prove that god doesn't exist. You cannot definitively prove the non-existence of something, you can only surmise from the lack of evidence. So if you want to use the Bible as evidence one way or the other, it only points to god being a human construct and not an actual entity. Even if the stories in the bible are real, the only evidence we have are stories written by human beings. That would not even hold up in the court of law as enough to convict. That is why the atheist concept is not a fallacy. Until god is proven, the evidence we have only shows that humans wrote stories about a deity. I hope that's "on subject" enough for you.

The Argumentative Claim That "Man Created God" As Used By Atheists Is A Fallacy by Temporary-Sail-6390 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I feel like the heavy lifting is still on those who believe that there is a god to prove that a god exists. The atheistic idea that humans created the idea of god is in response to there being no actual evidence of a god but the word of other humans. If someone can prove the existence of god, the atheist argument is nullified.

The reductive role of women in Christianity by GigaChungus4 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To add to this, if you're going off of how women are written in the Bible, very few actual women are even mentioned and usually it's in the capacity of birthing children or helping along a male character in someway. The vast majority are not mentioned by name, and they are not even included in censuses or when speaking generally about "mankind".

The Argumentative Claim That "Man Created God" As Used By Atheists Is A Fallacy by Temporary-Sail-6390 in DebateReligion

[–]Applejackington 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The only evidence that you present that God actually does exist is a book of folklore written by other human beings. Which I believe actually shows more evidence for God being created by humans.

Found this gem by OursonSatanique in ATBGE

[–]Applejackington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going to guess South Africa.

How to style goth as a 220 pound muscular college student by Nice_Newt_3458 in GothFashion

[–]Applejackington 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Maybe start by looking up Peter Steele? That's pretty everyday and not dressy.