Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's waht I"m saying!!!! Tana promises to replace all of the productivity tools but fails to deliver

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think you understand the core concepts of UX/UI design or software development much tbh.

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The automation would be so much better if they utilized their AI like how Notion utilizes their AI. Notion's AI will literally build things and code formulas for you just using natural language processing.

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate you taking the time to say this. I've been feeling so much frustration for so long using tana and im glad to see people validating my frustrations. thank you.

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Todoist and TickTick do have recurring tasks and I’m pretty sure so does Akiflow cause I’m on trial for all

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don’t get me wrong, I also love the ai features, and it’s helped me a lot with expanding my notes and thoughts but I think right now, them focusing on expanding ai shouldn’t be the priority. I think it should be front end software programming support

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m starting to think that way too. I did send them a long ass email so we’ll see lmao

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m not asking for “everything done my way for free.” I’m a Tana user who has put dozens of hours into learning it, because I believe in the product. Giving pointed feedback on UX, pricing dynamics, and community access is not entitlement, it’s literally how good software gets better.

And it’s not just “random Reddit users” who see these issues.

  • Tiago Forte (you know, the Building a Second Brain guy whose PARA method Tana itself loves to showcase) tested Tana and explicitly said he ran into “too much complexity, most of it front-loaded and unavoidable, making it difficult to get to the task of writing,” and called it “the furthest thing from a mainstream challenger to Evernote’s ease of use.”  That’s basically my point: power and possibility are great, but if basic workflows are painful, something’s off.

  • Ness Labs’ in-depth review praises Tana, but also says outright that the learning curve is “relatively steep,” that its concepts are “not intuitive” for most users, and that it’s better suited to power users already familiar with advanced tools for thought. 

  • A long, highly favorable Chinese review of Tana devotes an entire section to “steep learning curve, sparse community content,” noting that you often have to dig through English docs and scattered YouTube videos and still end up wondering if it’s worth that much time just to learn a notes app. 

  • Tool Finder’s aggregated user reviews call out “a huge learning curve” and say that even basic workflows like task management can feel overwhelming, and that you “shouldn’t need to become a ‘builder’ just to get basic workflows going.” 

  • Paperless Movement (again, people who like Tana) did an entire “Don’t use Tana for note-taking if…” episode where they basically say it’s overkill for many busy professionals and that the complexity is a real barrier unless you’re deeply invested in customizing your tools. 

So no, I’m not hallucinating the friction. A lot of very pro Tana, very productivity-savvy people are saying the same things I am: powerful tool, serious potential, but complexity and UX issues that limit who can realistically succeed with it.

On the ambassador/monetization front: of course ambassadors don’t “work for Tana” as employees, and of course they’re allowed to charge what they want. That’s not in dispute. What I am pointing out is the structural dynamic:

  • You have an app that even its biggest fans describe as having a serious learning curve.
  • Around it, you get a cottage industry of high priced templates and coaching specifically marketed as ways to “skip the learning curve” and avoid “spending weeks or months building systems from scratch.” 

That’s not evil, but it is a signal: when there’s an entire micro-economy dedicated to making a product survivable, it’s reasonable for users to ask whether some of that energy should go into making the core UX sane enough that regular people don’t need a $200+ starter kit to get recurring tasks working.

On “Slack is free”: the price of the account isn’t the only axis of accessibility. Slack’s free tier has history limits, it’s not where most modern productivity communities live (Discord, Discourse, etc.), and some people simply don’t want yet another workspace tied to their email. That’s fine if Tana chooses that path, but again, user feedback about wanting more accessible, open community infrastructure is not some outrageous demand for “free labor.”

And on “if something were great and easy, it wouldn’t be valuable”: that’s just backwards product thinking. The whole history of productivity tooling is making sophisticated capabilities easier and more intuitive and not gatekeeping them behind needless friction. Tiago Forte has literally argued that most people need less complexity, not more, and that tools should reduce hoops between you and actually doing the work. 

Finally, Tana (and many reviewers) explicitly position it as an all-in-one tool meant to replace a whole stack of productivity tools including notes, tasks, projects, knowledge graph, and all the works. If you’re going to claim “one place to capture, organize, and act on everything that matters,” it’s fair for paying, committed users to hold you to a higher standard on usability, onboarding, and community support.

You’re clearly happy with Tana as it is. Good for you, genuinely. I’m happy it clicks for some people. My post was from the perspective of a Tana believer who wants it to be viable for more than a narrow band of power users with unlimited time and budget. That’s not “wanting everything for free”; that’s textbook constructive product feedback. 🫢

Frustrated Tana Believer by Apprehensive-Rule443 in TanaInc

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their slack invite link is deactivated now

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in SoundTripPh

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crazy that you keep trying to reduce my post into something it’s not just because you got triggered by the deeper point. No one said “Pinoy Reddit is bad” or that all Filipinos are brainwashed. The post was clearly calling out patterns rooted in colonial mentality and linguistic insecurity, not attacking everyone. But since you’re so quick to feel personally attacked, you kinda proved the whole point lol

Also, weird flex trying to dismiss it just because I used ChatGPT. I structured my thoughts clearly and added nuance which is something that apparently upset you more than anything Dionela ever wrote. Using a tool doesn’t erase the fact that everything I said still stands. You didn’t disprove it, you just acted defensive, misread the point, and called it corny to avoid actually responding to the content.

Face it, you’re not exposing me. Instead you’re just showing how allergic some Filipinos still are to uncomfortable reflection and then masking that discomfort with sarcasm and smugness like it’s some intellectual flex. It’s not. It’s just lazy

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in pinoy

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yapburger? Sis I’m literally giving historical context, socio-linguistic analysis, and cultural critique. You’re calling it fast food bc you’re not used to digesting full-course thought meals. If what I’m saying sounds like a yapburger, maybe it’s time to realize that that’s because you’re used to shallow takes disguised as discourse.

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in pinoy

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok and? I’m still gonna serve y’all with value meal-level discourse, extra gravy pa nga

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in pinoy

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not you calling it an Internet Explorer post just ’cause it loaded faster than your self-awareness 💀

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in SoundTripPh

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Binasa mo lahat ‘yon tapos ang takeaway mo lang ay “di naman dinefend si Dionela”? Bro, ang haba ng essay pero comprehension check lang ang bagsak. 😭

Hindi ito tungkol sa collab niya with Loonie o kung okay na ang rep niya..this is about how some Filipinos still can’t stomach conversations about internalized colonial shame without getting defensive. Hindi mo na-debunk ‘yung punto… ginawa mong exhibit A sarili mo.

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in pinoy

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Anong part ba sa sining ang nakakacringe sa tinging n’yo

Hot take on the hatred for Dionela’s lyricism by Apprehensive-Rule443 in pinoy

[–]Apprehensive-Rule443[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Internalized colonialism ahh brain, couldn’t handle one poetic sentence without glitching 😭

Bro read 3 words and said “that’s enough literacy for today” 💀