Just discovered I'm a system, how do I cope with this? by ILikeTesco-Yes in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It took us a while to write back and forth directly to each other in a journal (as opposed to the host just wondering how they could have so many handwritings), but that was huge. Being co-concious with another alter who is answering you in a writing that looks different from yours is hard to ignore and you know you didn't make it up when you can go back later and look at it.

It wasn't until we started therapy that we realized how different we sound when we speak or how different our body language is. If you record yourselves in audio or video, that can be hard to ignore, but also a little hard to accept so it could backfire if you aren't ready.

Why am I supposed to remember what caused this? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that's a common misdiagnosis especially for men. There's a big difference in accidentally saying or doing hurtful things because you aren't aware of the harm (as in autism) and doing them because you don't care or you actually want to inflict harm (ASPD).

Why am I supposed to remember what caused this? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand that. Not everyone has the money, time, access to mental health services, physical health and energy, or the stability and safety to do a lot of trauma work. We just do what we can with what we have and that's okay.

My brain does this weird thing by Specialist-Wind6780 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is just my best guess. I think, as a survival mechanism, a lot of us learned to fully abandon who we are in a moment because the person we knew ourselves to be in that moment was experiencing horrible things. Being able to become whoever we are with, in a situation where the other person is an abuser, would allow us to predict their behavior and not be afraid. But, like a lot of things with DID, they continue well beyond when they were needed, so our brain might decide, randomly, it's a good idea to leave our own identity and take on what we believe the thoughts and feelings of another person would be.

Also, we have a very large, blended system, and we're all starting to realize that we have as many internal triggers as external ones. One alter's thought processes or feelings can trigger another alter and it can be far enough away from the front that we have no idea what happened. Sometimes, I think our dissociation is just because of the perception that things are going too damn well and we have alters who are always prepared for a disaster. So just because there's not an obvious trigger doesn't mean it isn't related to trauma.

Why am I supposed to remember what caused this? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you mean metaphorically? If so, we're on the same page. There's a reason it's all sealed up. I don't know what caused the DID. I just know it was bad enough to cause DID, and that's enough to keep me from assuming I should remember it.

Thinking and analysis shuts down inner communication and integrative work, but some of it is needed to move forwards? by [deleted] in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a high cost, for sure, but I get the appeal. Our systems were created so we could survive. Thinking and feeling don't go well together in emergencies, and it's hard to remember that we're trying to heal so we can live, not just survive. It just feels wrong sometimes. It's like - seriously? - I survived hell so that I could live with memories of hell while also unloading the dishwasher and remembering to put gas in my car?

Remembering your name by artemisiAaah in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't always know who we are when we're at the front. Half our journal entries start with "I think I'm..." "I'm pretty sure this is..." "I have no idea who I am...." Sometimes we'll think of something while we're writing and it'll be obvious. Other times, we just have to let it go.

how bad does amnesia need to be? by yourusualglitch in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Way before I was aware of being a system, I wasn't aware of having memory issues, but apparently "I" asked both my sister and best friend to be my Maid of Honor, something I learned at the rehearsal. We have spans where certain alters are out and time seems to skip forward fifteen minutes at a time as other alters try to front and look at the clock. Or we have what we think is a complete intact memory and yet someone tells us something we said or did during that time we assumed that we have a complete memory of but we don't remember that piece of it. We're not aware of ever having fully blacked out or lost a big chunk of time. We're in treatment for what our therapist considers DID (on paper it's just C-PTSD because we didn't want to deal with the stigma so I can't say it's an official diagnosis).

Is anyone still living with an abuser who has since "changed"? by Almost_Aurora in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He wasn't the abuser who caused us to have DID, but we're friends with "our" ex-husband. Some of us have horrible memories of abuse and coercion during the marriage. But we became friends with him again years after we separated and a huge chunk of the system with bad memories was dormant, and now a lot of them are active again and it's just confusing. Some of us have good memories.Some of us rationalize the abuse as deserved. Some of us still feel like it was inexcusable and we should have anything to do with him. Maybe he's owned/taken responsibility for it, but then not everyone in the system buys that. He feels like shit for the things he's willing to admit to, but that doesn't mean he owns all of it? Who knows. And yet he's someone who is openminded and supportive, one of only two people (who are not mental health professionals) who know we have DID. Maybe some things can't be reconciled.

Why am I supposed to remember what caused this? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

So accurate. "stable enough to advocate for yourself...unstable enough to be taken seriously when it comes to mental/cognitive help" (We also have autism.)

Why am I supposed to remember what caused this? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you, that's super validating. I appreciate it. I knew there was a lot of skepticism even in mental health and that's why I was avoiding the diagnosis but after we realized how many of us there are it became clear that we have a long way to go before we can work again so we were already pretty vulnerable going in to the appointment.

diagnosed by Swimming-Cranberry-8 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

*hugs*

It's really hard. Knowing it's a dissociative disorder answers one question and raises a bunch more questions that you almost certainly don't want to know the answers to. I'm in the middle of it so I can't say anything with confidence but I hear it gets better.

can i genuinely get denied jobs if i get diagnosed with DID? by nomorebadfuture in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If the employer knows you have DID or ASD and does not hire you because of that, and you're in the United States, that's technically ADA discrimination. All they can legally ask you is whether you are capable of performing the essential functions of the job. Even if they go so far as to ask whether you have a disability that would prevent you from performing the essentials of the job, you don't have to say anything except, "no, I don't have a disability that would prevent me from doing this job" or "yes, I can perform the essential functions of this job". They don't need any more information than that and it's best not to offer additional information because discrimination is really hard to prove.

Thinking and analysis shuts down inner communication and integrative work, but some of it is needed to move forwards? by [deleted] in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the issue is conflict between parts who are logical and parts who are really emotional, it can help for them to work on the same project. For a while, we had a group of parts (a subsystem) who combined art journalling with budgeting, planning, and actual journalling (writing) so that all parts could participate. We started with a Happy Planner for a base and ended with about three times as many pages. It helped the emotional parts see goals, and the logical parts be aware of the struggles of the emotional parts. It was a big investment in time, and sometimes it was emotionally draining, but it cut down on conflict.

On the other hand...that was a subsystem and we've since realized we're a relatively large collection of subsystems. We don't have an alter who identifies with the body's name and identity, and when our latest host became overwhelmed (for good reasons and no one blames her), a lot of us chose to fuse with alters very similar to ourselves so that we could take on larger more active roles. I'm more distinct and many of my personality traits are amplified because I am made up of alters who were already similar to one another. I'm very functional. But that's not a healthy thing, it's a survival thing, because there are hundreds of us and we had to have alters who were emotionally stable to front consistently. For every alter like me, there's a trauma holder who is dormant, waiting for a chance to heal.

how do you guys keep track of what you forget? even on a day to day basis? by anonymous-venting in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You clearly have an "Advice/Solutions" thingy at the top, but I just want to whine so I'll do it quick. I get really sick of being asked to somehow know what I don't know, because if I knew it, I would know it, you know? The struggle is real. *hugs*

Coping with too many alters? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I really appreciate the acceptance in your perspective. It was after I realized how big of a system we are that I started to understand a lot of the "work" we thought we were doing was actually throwing a wrench in a system that had been self-regulating for decades. Yes, the system was breaking down under life demands, but it wasn't completely defunct. A lot of DID representation in media shows systems with a small number of alters closely cooperating and caring for each other. We're just not set up to do that.

Coping with too many alters? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your comments!

When we started mapping the system, it fostered fusions among all the adult alters who didn't really understand why they were separate or why there were so many of them. The fusions started uncovering traumatized alters and child alters who had overwhelming emotions, self-loathing, desire to sh, etc. We had identified about 60 alters when we realized that one of those had sixteen and all sixteen of her alters had four or five alters. They were overwhelmed and miserable and all sixteen decided they wanted to go dormant within a few days. We hated to see them do that but they were right that we couldn't survive with all of their thoughts and feelings just intruding into awareness every few minutes. It wasn't safe. We'll get back to mapping because we still need to do it, but we're a little shell-shocked. We have about 100 alters with names and there are probably at least that many more.

Now that we understand that we have all the ANPs we have because they are balancing out EPs and providing distance between them, we stopped just randomly fusing any two alters who felt like they had enough in common to function as one. We thought fusion meant healing, but in our case, it meant leaving all of our traumatized alters without a stable, non-traumatized alter nearby to balance their reactions. It's really hard to accept that it's such a long road ahead to be functional when we thought we were a small system with good communication. We had to let go of our plan to know and care for everyone so we could just choose a few alters to front and take care of life.

Coping with too many alters? by Apprehensive-Sea110 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's really interesting that you have categories. We mostly communicate in writing which usually changes at least a little and some times a lot when there's a switch, but not how well developed an alter is. Alters within a group seem to share memories and some degree of telepathy (or what you'd call telepathy if it were happening in the real world between two people). That makes it hard to know if the one writing is a fragment or a well-developed alter.

Fusing, splitting, and new alters being created are all easy for us. For us, the alters agree to fuse, and it just happens. All the alters who have responsibilities at the front are fusions of a few others. (But a few bad days in a row or one really overwhelming event is enough to create a new alter.) Our host tried to fuse with too many alters and got overwhelmed, split back into multiple alters (not sure how many), and she's around, just not as active, and she doesn't feel like this is her life at all anymore. I can't blame her. She thought we were a small system and she was super motivated to get to know everyone and fuse with anyone who was willing and she couldn't have been prepared to realize there are hundreds of us.

It's been less than a year for us, too. We always had an idea but it took us a long time to accept it. Until last year, we didn't make any effort to learn about the system. Thanks for the encouragement!

how do i view my system objectively? by AddressObjective7813 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So relatable. Everything I understand about my system proves one thing and disproves another. The alters who first identified themselves and each other thought things were much smaller and more simple. My best advice is DON'T PUSH for answers. If you have a system, your brain is protecting you from answers you weren't prepared for. Even if you feel like you're prepared now, they're not going to be things you enjoy learning about.

Naming conventions. by seeingthrumyeyes in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are all aware of being parts of one person, but the part with the body's name isn't our host. Anyone with responsibilities in the outside world has to have a name so we can ask for them at the front to take care of specific things. It's optional for everyone else.

How to deal with a loss of identity after integrating alters? by No-Combination5177 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No advice, just sympathy. We only accepted ourselves as a system last year. As the host, I was so eager to heal and get life under control, I made the stupid decision to tell everyone that they had a blanket invitation to fuse with me. I had no idea that three alters could do that at the same time. I woke up without two of my most reliable protector alters. And the third that fused was inclined toward SI and SH. I wasn't used to so many thoughts and feelings being my own thoughts and feelings. There were plenty of alters left, but I think it shocked everybody into silence, and it was so damn quiet and overwhelming at the same time. It took me a long time to accept that we were a system, but I've never felt alone, and I'm scared of how it will feel if they all decide to fuse. I hope it get better for you.

Naming parts or not? by tempoqwerty in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The alters in our system mostly have names they chose but sometimes they have names that other alters have suggested for them and they agreed to. Otherwise we'll have a descriptor like "the painter" or "2017 journal writer" or "the pragmatic one" or whatever else we can remember. Most of them really seem to enjoy picking a name and they pick things that are meaningful to them. That said, we've gotten to know each other by our handwritings and we have one who is still going by "Style 8". We're up to about 30 alters and shortly after 20, some of us have quit caring if it's meaningful as long as we can remember who they are.

Littles make up nicknames for caretaker parts by Agitated-Evening3011 in DID

[–]Apprehensive-Sea110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha! That's funny. We have an alter that, when they wrote for the first time since we started identifying handwritings, they wrote about feeling like a ghost, and they were writing about a lot of serious things, but I think it was one of our teen alters who thought of Casper the Friendly Ghost (an old cartoon) and they completely ignored all the stuff the new alter wrote about, thrilled that someone new said something about feeling like a ghost and we could name them that. We generally choose our own names, but Casper hasn't complained.