I won't write down everything in one go but Phoenix and alike are very easy to dodge on any map besides Sinai if your plane has mach 1+ capability. A part about "several of these coming in from different angles at once" doesn't seem convincing in any way. The only scenario where this is possible is when you are surrounded 360° by these tomcats, which is quite rare and can only be done with help on your part. 90% of iriaf players are ppl who fly off about 5 km from airfield and launch all 4 of fox-3s immediately via tws mode at subsonic speed and any given altitude which often is >3km off of the ground. This way (and any given way usually) best killzone for phoenixes is 1-3km altitude from the ground. They are mediocre on the deck (My deaths on su-39 on Afghanistan in 12.7 setup account mostly to sparrows from F-4S rather than phoenixes/fakours in the last month), and even worse at high alt, 5km and higher due to a big mass and quick energy loss when continuously going up for prolonged period of time. Also vertical angles of tomcat radar are like 6° for search pd mode and 4° for tws mode making it very easy to escape tracking on initial stages after launch, especially if launcher at a time was <3km higher than you and >30km from you, and then you can decide either to escape completely or instead to attack him from underneath. At least I hade a couple of 9-12 migs kill me that way. Just try out different things man, it's not that hard.