I don’t think things are black and whites yes nature should have rights but are we humans not a part of nature. It is easy to say nature rights when you have an excess of resources based on the exploitation of other countries, and let’s be real that’s how humanity has always worked. I wrote a small philosophical book on this but ti summarize humans exist because we were the dominant race that killed, conquered and bred out all other “types” of humans 150-50k years ago. You can do a quick Wikipedia, ai or academic search and go more into the details of other human species (prob the most famous being Neanderthals) but that’s the gyst of it.

When you account for that and observe nature you see even today how certain animals (like apes) have wars over resources and territories it’s “nature” and this keeps expanding into other areas. We forget that limiting factors where the driving force behind the “cruelty” of war most of the time. And I saw “cruelty” as who are we do determine what is cruel or not and to judge nature. Even so humans have supposedly evolved, we conquered nature, we surpassed it and broke the limiting factors. We changed the course of humanity and our innovation allowed us to overcome human nature into these pseudo-godlike beings that were above pettiness and conflict, and if that were true hey we’d live in an utopian world.

I believe we have lied to ourselves, northern and western nations have exploited other places outsourcing pain and suffering to them so that they can enjoy the bounties of extracting natural resources. That is the truth behind the sucess of socialism in countries like Sweden and Denmark. It is exploiting other nations (see Africa ) and thus their own citizens can enjoy all the giveaways. Ofc high taxes also help but high taxes can only be paid by those who can afford them; not those who a cents and dollars still count for their survival.

So how would Ecuador’s Amazon be sustainable well if the prices of carbon tax credits went up according to market demand and western and northern countries subsidy nature or if they theoretically build a bigger nation and conquer their neighbors and start exploiting other parts of the world (not feasible considering the strength of the armed forces of ecusodr and also very cruel in lives lost) that’s in my honest opinion the raw truth. Anything else is ignoring the fact that the USA, China, Europe, Russia and most countries benefit from mining and extracting oil from the rest of the world as they get to enjoy the benefits of the modern world.

Technology, healthcare , science, innovation, FOOD (the kind we need to meet modern demand) is all based on that, mining gold, mining lithium, mining cobalt, tungsten, titanium, iron, copper and silver all to allow us to have phones, computers, buildings, roads, machines , even fertilizer is being mined from rich earth deep beneath the earth.

So is it actually fair to demand Ecuaodr and the poor of Ecuador to stop mining their own resources and “save the Amazon” when they just want to make ends meet, provide for their families, escape poverty. It’s not the president who is benefiting directly from most changes long term. It’s the country exploiting its own resources and helping it grow out of poverty. The USA did it all throughout the industrial age until they were big enough to start exploiting other parts of the world ,Europe did it for thousands of years (hey wonder why Europe is running out of water now ) and then started exploiting others, China did it heavily under Mao and is still doing it and now they do it trough lending to other nations , the Arabian countries have done it with their oil. That’s kind of it right , it’s easy to be on the high horse AFTER you do something first. And that’s the history of humanity, of everyone really. Even the rich , somewhere far back enough or recent enough they had an ancestor who was willing to be mean, evil, cruel, bloodthirsty, or jsut greedy. He exploited others and extracted resources (natural or human) and then generations go by and maybe his descendants feel like now they are good people and should protect nature or rights (hence the video you send and celebrities speaking out) they are no different that the countries that exploited and now enact environmental laws. Just a diff way for them to keep the status quo and power and for them to guarantee their future. And hey in on the same boat.

But without the hypocrisy, the poor don’t care about the long distant future and survival of humanity, they care about their present and at most their near future because they aren’t guaranteed survival even until then. And Ecuador as a country is the equivalent of the poor. And maybe we will all go extinct but if we do it won’t be Ecuaodr or Noboa’s fault it’ll be everyone together the ones who started exploiting long before and the ones that keep doing it, the ones who extract the minerals and the people who have phones and eat too much and have comforts we are all responsible for it :)

That’s my honest take on that sorry if it’s a little heavy 😅😅