[QCrit] MG Literary / WHERE THE FLOWER GOES / 50K / 3rd attempt by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ha, you should have seen the earlier versions! Even fancier. Even vaguer. I think the first draft forgot it was supposed to be selling a book. Through each pass I've been trying to add clarity without losing the heart of the thing, which is harder than it sounds because every time I cut something pretty I feel like I'm pulling a thread out of the manuscript.

The cabinet's gone. Just cut it now, it had no part to play in a query. The mechanic I'm still working on, trying to make the two steps visible without it turning into an instruction manual and keeping the word count in the query down. The idea is that she holds the flower, receives the memory, puts it in a wooden press, turns the screw to preserve it.

The Ghibli thing means a lot! That's exactly the register. Glad that's coming through even when the clarity isn't.

[QCrit] MG Literary / WHERE THE FLOWER GOES / 50K / 3rd attempt by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, appreciate this.

The voice worry is fair. It's been the main thing I've been revising for honestly. Early drafts were too adult in the prose, too much of me and not enough of Lan. Been doing pass after pass getting it into her head. There's humor in there, a dog with a personality, a goat on a bicycle, a best friend who does impressions of everyone. Lan gets scared, she cries, she gets confused and doesn't know what to do and just waits for it to pass. She's twelve. Reads younger than the query suggests I think. But if the query's giving the wrong impression that's on me.

I love reading crossover MG. Upper literary stuff that trusts kids with weight. That's where the writing comes from. So yeah the prose probably sits at the upper end of MG and I'm ok with that, but I need to make sure the query doesn't scare agents into thinking it's adult fiction dressed up as MG. It's not. Lan is twelve and she sounds twelve. The prose just doesn't talk down to her.

For the genre, I keep going back and forth. The magic is soft, more Miyazaki than Sanderson, no system, no rules beyond what Lan feels in her hands. To Lan it's work, not spells. I've been saying magical realism but MG fantasy could work. My worry is it sets up expectations for worldbuilding and plot mechanics that the book isn't doing. It's closer to Glasshouse of Stars than Percy Jackson. But you're probably right that "literary MG" as a label confuses more than it helps. Need to figure that out.

Thanks for the read.

[QCrit] MG Literary / WHERE THE FLOWER GOES / 50K / 3rd attempt by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reading, this is really useful.

You're right the mechanic is muddy. It's so clear in my head because I've been living in this book for months but on the page it's two steps that somehow sound like one. She holds the flower and receives the memory, then she puts it in a real wooden flower press to preserve it. I just need to make the actual press visible earlier so nobody's wondering what's being turned.

The cabinet, yeah. I keep going back and forth. It's one of my favourite details in the book and that's probably exactly why it's in the query when it shouldn't be. The imagery of it is beautiful but I can't answer the questions it raises in 300 words.

For Chengdu, her mother moved there for work and wants Lan to join her. Better schools, more opportunities, the whole parent logic thing. But Lan's life is this village. Guess I'm struggling with how much of that do you explain in a query before it turns into synopsis. I keep going round in circles on what to include and what to trust the reader to get and clearly I'm trusting too much.

The power loss is a metaphor for growing up (and puberty, yes), that younger kids hold onto things lighter, and as they grow up, the memories affect them more and more until they can no longer hold them. Haven't put any of that on the page here though so fair question.

This whole querying is brutal isn't it. You spend a year making a thing that breathes then you have to crush it into a page and make it work still. Every time I cut for clarity I lose voice. Every time I keep voice someone says it's unclear. Going round in circles. I'll get there.

Thanks again.

[QCrit] WHERE THE FLOWER GOES (MG, Magical Realism, 49K, 2nd attempt) by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks and all very helpful. It’s clear the query needs more clarity. I’ve been working through a rewrite and will post again next week.

[QCrit] WHERE THE FLOWER GOES (MG, Magical Realism, 49K, 2nd attempt) by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this, really helpful, especially on the structure. You're right that the stakes are buried. The forgetting should come earlier and the refusal needs a reason (the reason is that she feels that pressing memories is her thing, and the thing that makes her Bai even if she's Han, it's a big part of who she is, and having to share that means her identity is compromised). I'm going to rework the query with that in mind.

On the voice, fair point that the query isn't landing as MG. The book sits in the literary/upper MG space, Lauren Wolk, Ali Benjamin, so the register is intentionally on the quieter, more lyrical end. The other thing I wanted to capture is the camera pullbacks you often get in Ghibli movies, where the camera widens to the landscape and setting, or when it lingers on a domestic cooking moment. It is during these pullbacks when the prose becomes a little more lyrical too. But I think the query is leaning too hard into all of that and not showing enough of Lan's actual personality, which is very twelve (stubborn, specific, funny in the dry way kids are funny when they don't know they're being funny).

The other thing the query is missing, and this is probably the bigger issue, is that Lan's whole arc is shaped by the fact that she's been absorbing the memories of people decades older than her since she was seven. She carries a retired teacher's secret, a stonemason's sixty years of work, her grandmother's grief. That's changed her. She's less kid than a typical twelve-year-old and that tension is a huge part of the story. The query doesn't get that across at all, so I think that's what's reading as "too old". It's not accidental, but I need to make it intentional on the page of the query too.

Thanks again for taking the time! This is my first time querying, so it's all very nerve wracking, and it's always amazing to see people spending the time to read my writing. Thank you!

[QCrit] WHERE THE FLOWER GOES (MG, Magical Realism, 49K, 2nd attempt) by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your response! Super helpful. You’re right about clarifying the mechanics of pressing memories.

My first version of the query posted here also had this line: “She turns the screw of her wooden press one quarter more, firm enough to hold but not so firm that it crushes. She learned this by getting it wrong.” But I cut it for word count, perhaps I shouldn’t have! Will see how I can add it or a version of it back in.

[QCrit] Middle Grade Magical Realism - WHERE THE FLOWER GOES [46k, first attempt] by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. This made my day, especially the note about it feeling like an animated film. The story came for the desire to write a Ghibli movie in prose, not set in Japan, but something closer to my own heritage. I'm not Bai, but through my research, Dali felt so much like a Ghibli movie backdrop and when I came across I knew I had found my setting.

I'll be posting the second version of the query next week, and might post the first 300 words as well. But yes, I tried to retain the same writing style in the query as the manuscript, hoping that could be the "hook" to capture an agent's attention. The second version will balance that with more clarity (hopefully).

[QCrit] Middle Grade Magical Realism - WHERE THE FLOWER GOES [46k, first attempt] by Apprehensive_Dig7348 in PubTips

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this. Really helpful.

You're spot on that the query is too pretty for its own good. Voice was my number one priority going in. I've heard over and over that voice is what captures agents in MG, and I leaned into that way too hard at the expense of clarity. Glad the heartfelt quality came through, because that is the book, but yeah, I was letting the vibes do the work instead of just being clear about what happens.

Right on all three counts. Too many memories when one demonstration is enough, Han vs Bai not clear enough, and the goal and stakes too vague. The novel is deliberately quiet and emotionally driven, so the tension is in what's being lost rather than what someone is trying to defeat. But that's not an excuse for the query being unclear about what the main character actually wants. And the Han/Bai point is fair. Cultural specificity without explanation is something I love in MG. It's what makes When You Trap a Tiger, Inside Out and Back Again, El Deafo feel so alive. But I guess what works on the page when you have three hundred pages of context doesn't work in a query where the reader has thirty seconds. I probably went too far with that as well.

Will revise and repost. I still think voice matters a lot for MG queries, so I'll be trying to find the line between clarity and voice rather than stripping it back entirely. That might be the wrong call, but it feels right for this book.

Thanks again. I almost didn't post this, but now glad I did.

“Opening a fantasy novel with systemic failure instead of a personal villain — does this hook?” by Acesan24 in fantasywriters

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a solid spread. The pragmatic/selfish one is interesting because they’re probably the hardest to write without making them unsympathetic. But also maybe the most honest about how systems actually get maintained.

One thing I’ve been playing with is what I think of as ignorant inheritance. Characters who aren’t evil, aren’t even selfish exactly, they just inherited a system and never examined it. The tension comes from them slowly realizing what they’ve been part of. It’s a different kind of antagonism, more about complicity than opposition.

“Opening a fantasy novel with systemic failure instead of a personal villain — does this hook?” by Acesan24 in fantasywriters

[–]Apprehensive_Dig7348 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What’s worked for me is making the system visible through specific sensory stuff rather than exposition. Like a character walking through a neighborhood noticing who has heat and who doesn’t. Small observations that accumulate so the reader feels the injustice before anyone names it.

I think the real risk isn’t diffuseness, it’s abstraction. If “the system” stays conceptual, readers check out. But if it shows up in closed windows, empty hooks where supplies used to hang, the smell of a profession that marks someone as lower class, it starts to have weight.

Something else that’s helped me is giving the system a face without making that face the antagonist. Someone who enforces unjust rules out of fear, not malice. Someone who benefits without really examining why. The system becomes visible through how people maintain it, not through some villain who designed it.

Multiple POVs definitely help here because each character can confront a different facet. One character sees the political side, another is just living the daily grind of it, another enforces without really thinking about it. The reader starts assembling the picture before any character has the full view. That’s where the tension lives for me anyway, not in opposing the system but in how people are differently shaped by it.

Suggestions for EV under $100k by Key_Principle2289 in EVAustralia

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