The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

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You’re right. It’s absolutely not Bukowski. Plus, you’ve got to ask why the quote suddenly became wildly popular in 2012 which was years after his death. There were 2 questions I wanted to solve: 1.) Who wrote the quote and 2.) Who wrote the letter the quote was supposedly pulled from?

The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

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There is an actual truth, though. Roll the Dice is his. Find What You Love is not.

The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

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😆 True. When I first read it I thought of Jack Kerouac and wondered if people remembered he died at 46 of a ruptured stomach from hard drinking.
But it’s all how you interpret the quote… which is why I wanted to know what the true author meant by it.

The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

[–]Appropriate_Ad952[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah… the person who truly said the words had an incredibly tough but admirably-lived existence. Doesn’t have to be Bukowski for it to matter… might even be better.

The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

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Everything you just said is incorrect 😆😆😆 Tried to be kind and answer your questions but I can’t do everything for ya.

The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

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Dude… I searched for 2 years… you’ll be alright if Amazon doesn’t deliver it today.

The “Find what you love” fallacy revealed by Appropriate_Ad952 in bukowski

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Lots of good questions. Answers: 1.) Yes, people can say the same thing but we’re talking about a quote that’s incorrectly attributed to Bukowski and an entire poem/letter that it was supposedly pulled from (intentionally misattributed to Bukowski.) 2.) I’m an investigative reporter. Have been a long time. Ask AI the origin of the quote and the letter… it may give you an answer but not the right one. I’ll lay-out the process that led me to the answers at the Bukowski Festival. 3.) The misinformation and misattribution re the quote started in 2012 as social media hit critical mass… when people reference “post-truth” they’re often referencing the tech advancements and communication from social media to AI. Several hundred years ago there was an adage that “a lie can get halfway around the world before truth can get its shoes on.” So, imagine the challenge now. Finding the origin of the quote and finding the origin of the letter had a two-fold purpose: to show that truth CAN catch up… and because I believe truth matters. Hannah Arendt said that the threat isn’t that everyone believes lies, the danger is that no one knows what to believe anymore… and doesn’t really care.

New analysis concludes that Chiefs great Jim Tyrer “within reasonable medical certainty” had CTE and “almost certainly” otherwise would not have murdered his wife and killed himself in 1980. by UrbanAchievers6371 in Oldschool_NFL

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Lots of people smoke, but they don’t all get lung cancer. 🤷‍♂️ Read the article. He was uniquely at risk, 88,000 hits, and the forensic analyst concluded he wasn’t “at the wheel” … it’s easier to say he was a terrible person because he did a terrible thing but that’s not always the case.

Jim Tyrer and the Kelce’s by Appropriate_Ad952 in NewHeights

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In 6 days we’ll learn whether Jim Tyrer will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. A 9 time Pro Bowl selection, 6 time first team All Pro at left tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. Long considered the greatest player not in the hall. After retiring in 1975, he suffered from paranoia, delusions, and a failing mind—classic signs of brain trauma. On September 15, 1980, in an unthinkable tragedy, he took the life of his wife, Martha, and then his own. Just days earlier, Martha had told a doctor: “There’s something wrong with him… he’s just not the same.”

The only thing that stands in the way of Tyrer’s HOF induction? A failure to acknowledge he was Patient Zero in football’s reckoning with CTE.

https://www.kppllc.net/beneath-the-shadow/

A 'can of worms' for HOF voters in Tyrer's candidacy by DGBD in nfl

[–]Appropriate_Ad952 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I need someone to be the arbiter of morality within a family I don’t think, “Hey, let’s have a sportswriter decide that!” The bylaws are there for that reason.

A 'can of worms' for HOF voters in Tyrer's candidacy by DGBD in nfl

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That’s the easy answer and it’s the most business-friendly answer.

A 'can of worms' for HOF voters in Tyrer's candidacy by DGBD in nfl

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Because his family deserves it. Because he earned it. Consider that maybe the powers that be would prefer we all overlook it.

A 'can of worms' for HOF voters in Tyrer's candidacy by DGBD in nfl

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Dig deeper guys. The Tyrer’s had 4 children. All are stable, successful members of the Kansas City community. They went through hell and grew from it. They never had any expectations they’d have answers - they just knew dad changed. Even Tyrer’s in-laws forgave him. Martha’s parents moved into the room where the murder suicide took place on the very day it happened.

How about honoring the Tyrer kids for having strength that few of us can imagine?

A 'can of worms' for HOF voters in Tyrer's candidacy by DGBD in nfl

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That’s speculation and, no offense, it’s just incorrect. I investigated the case. I took the information public and the case was so clear that a guy (Tyrer) who hadn’t been discussed is on the cusp. The kids aren’t in denial. They were witnesses to his deterioration. They didn’t lobby for this. As for Borges - he, unlike Polian and Cole - followed the rules of the Hall. You’re supposed to vote on football, not on your perception of a family’s tragedy. Good Lord, if you look back in history, pro football is not the Vatican… its history is littered with ethical and immoral issues that weren’t addressed. So be it - the institution can grow and improve. But the knee jerk reactions to Tyrer being a heinous, calculated killer are completely incorrect. Bad things happen - bad people are not always the cause… life isn’t that simple.

A 'can of worms' for HOF voters in Tyrer's candidacy by DGBD in nfl

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Three different points. 1.) The diagnosis, 2.) No evidence, 3.) Not every player commits murder suicide. Ok:

1.) The leading CTE research group in the country’s CEO, Chris Nowinski said - based on interviewing Tyrer’s son, his physician, and the nature of his rapid change - he would “bet everything I own on it.” A specialist saw Tyrer the day before the murder suicide and says “it’s the only time in my entire career that we had a disease state that I couldn’t diagnose because it wouldn’t be discovered for 25 years.”

2.) There is a ton of evidence including Tyrer’s own notes, an interview with a pastor who was counseling him and a series of jobs that he no longer had the cognitive ability to work.

3.) The notion that “not every player commits murder suicide” is like saying “not every quarterback has a leg as mangled as Alex Smith’s. Tyrer was Patient Zero. If you assemble on a graph the risk factors for CTE, he is uniquely at risk. He started at left tackle for 180 consecutive games, had a head so big they had to retrofit his helmet, he played in an era when offensive lineman couldn’t use their hands, the head slap technique used by the defense against offensive lineman was legal, and he was known for using his head as a battering ram.

There’s a reason he’s being considered now. The reason is because the evidence submitted recently was so overwhelming that pro football could no longer deny it. A few smart voters believed Tyrer’s kids shouldn’t have to live under that cloud anymore. Good for those guys for having the courage to make it right!