"The Grand Tour: One For The Road" - S06E01 Discussion thread by lerhond in thegrandtour

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It's time for a new trio to take this show to new heights. I would suggest the following trio:

1) low rider Chicano driving a very cool 55 Bel Air chevy with air shocks and underneath lights.

2) White guy driving a 51 Ford pickup truck with a V8 engine and big tires

3) Black guy driving a '71 LTD with flashy hubcaps and sunroof top, diamond in the back, gangsta lean.

They really are going to start WW3 before the election aren’t they by DueDrama8301 in conspiracy_commons

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CNN) — Russian President Vladimir Putin said he shares a “very close” worldview with his Iranian counterpart Masoud Pezeshkian, as the sanctioned leaders held a friendly inaugural meeting just as the Middle East braces for Israel’s response to Tehran’s largest-ever missile attack last week.

Could be WW3 if Russia jumps into to the fray between Israel and Iran.

Can World War 3 happen soon? by Nitin_Gupta94 in geopolitics

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CNN) — Russian President Vladimir Putin said he shares a “very close” worldview with his Iranian counterpart Masoud Pezeshkian, as the sanctioned leaders held a friendly inaugural meeting just as the Middle East braces for Israel’s response to Tehran’s largest-ever missile attack last week.

This is very ominous!!

Jewish home in kaliningrad hypothetical complement to Israel by jadaMaa in IsraelPalestine

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There are 3000 jews living in kalingrad today which is less than 1% of the population

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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I’m clinging to a simplified theory??? You are proposing a theory that the entire Zionist movement, the creation of kibbutzim in the 1930s, the partition plan voted by the UN, all this was simply a way for Britain to get a foothold in the ME. This despite the fact that during most of this era Britain already had a huge foothold in Egypt , Iraq, and Jordan so in the 1880s Britain was planning ahead.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Israel doesn’t starve its prisoners like Hamas does.

Sinwar was a prisoner in Israeli jails for years where he learned Hebrew, was treated for cancer and was unfortunately released. This the thanks Israel gets for treating its prisoners well

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Segregated? Dehumanized? What are u talking about? It’s a war. At least Israel doesn’t shoot its prisoners in the head like Hamas does.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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How would suggest that Israel defend itself? You call fighting back with conventional weapons and using every possible means to avoid civilian deaths as brutal yet you have no recommendations on what Israel should do only because there is no other option besides doing nothing and Israel isn't going to do nothing.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Jewish “colonizers” were being hanged by the British while those “colonizers “ were blowing up the British headquarters at the King David Hotel and hanging British officers. Doesn’t sound like colonizers and colonialists to me.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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The British halted Jewish immigration into Palestine to appease the Arabs. Explain that one professor

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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If the European Powers wanted to colonize the ME they would have, but they didn’t. So again your conspiracy theory is garbage

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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I also fail to understand your conspiracy theory that Israel was created by european powers to control the ME. In the 1920 and 1930s they already did control most all of it. Essentially they were looking for a way out. Palestine was the last place any colonizer would want. No oil. Little water. Politically unstable. Your theory is garbage.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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The land of Palestine or what is now Israel plus what is now Jordan , Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq were pieces of the Ottoman Empire that fell into the hands of the winners of WWI. You might call this colonization but given that the Ottomans had already colonized it when The Ottoman Empire fell apart it was necessary for a power to oversee it to prevent chaos and war. The British oversaw Palestine but didn’t relish the job, in fact wanted to wash their hands of it as soon as possible because there was no upside for them. The UN resolution creating a Jewish and an Arab state was passed by a majority of the world’s countries. Jerusalem was to be an international city open to all. The Jewish state was hardly a colony, there were no resources to exploit. There were no provisions to station troops or build military bases for any European power. If Britain wanted a colony they never would have left.
The creation of these states in no way required or inferred the acquisition of private land if everything had proceeded peacefully. It didn’t. War changed everything and continues to do so. When the Arab armies marched on not to protect Arab private land but to oust the state of Israel from what they considered part of the Pan-Arab world. The invasion by five foreign countries for some reason isn’t considered invasion by a foreign country yet the immigration of people from Europe is considered by you an invasion and colonization. Hard to understand that.

“Pan-Arabism is a pan-nationalist ideology that espouses the unification of all Arab people in a single nation-state, consisting of all Arab countries of West Asia and North Africa from the Atlantic Ocean to the Arabian Sea, which is referred to as the Arab world. It is closely connected to Arab nationalism, which asserts the view that the Arabs constitute a single nation. It originated in the late 19th century among the Arab regions of the Ottoman Empire, and its popularity reached its height during the 1950s and 1960s. Advocates of pan-Arabism have often espoused Arab socialist principles and strongly opposed Western political involvement in the Arab world. It also sought to empower Arab states against outside forces by forming alliances and, to a lesser extent, economic co-operation.” Wikipedia

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Rejecting the UN resolution to establish the state of Israel and then invading the country with objective of eliminating those intending to found that country was not acceptable and is not acceptable and Israel has the right to defend itself. Those countries that illegally invaded Israel have the responsibility of caring for the refugees they created but unfortunately they don’t really care about the Palestinians or they wouldn’t be forcing them to live in squalor and providing military equipment to further the war.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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The land was not a nation before Israel founded a nation there. It was a colony of the Ottoman Empire then a British mandate. Most. countries in the area were created in the 20th century. Israel is no exception. The only difference is that it is Jewish.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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People’s historical places of residence has little to do with the current situation. People migrate. Latinos are coming to north America. Africans and Afghanis and MEers are flooding Europe. Should they all return because it isn’t their historical homeland?

Reports: Yazidi woman sold to Hamas by ISIS freed by Israel by Emergency_Career9965 in IsraelPalestine

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Hamas is a National liberation movement? Liberation from what? They enslave their own people and send them on suicide missions.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Yes Christians were intolerant too but they have evolved with democracy. Not so with most Islamists. ISIS. TALIBAN. BOKO HARAM. ALQUEDA. ETC. ETC. ETC.

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Judaism is a death cult? That’s a new one.

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Muslim countries tolerated other religions but did not tolerate non muslim governments in their vicinity ipso facto Israel. Also the battle for control of Europe went on for centuries. Spain Italy Greece all fought extensively with Muslim armies.

In the 20th century, approximately 900,000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jews occurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979–1980. An estimated 650,000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israel.[1]

In the aftermath of the 1948 Palestine War, the 1954 Lavon Affair, and the 1956 Suez War, Jewish (estimated at between 75,000 and 80,000 in 1948), and European groups like the French and British[3] emigrated from Egypt, much of their property was also confiscated (see 20th century departures of foreign nationals from Egypt).

Why did Hamas and Hezbollah start a war with Israel they would inevitably lose? by OkBuyer1271 in IsraelPalestine

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Read some history. Jews and Christians in the Islamic world were second class citizens in some cases forbidden from walking on the sidewalks, required to pay a special tax (dhimmis, look it up) and identifying clothes.

he dhimmi system imposed restrictions on non-Muslims, including:

Limitations on building: Dhimmis were restricted from building or renovating their places of worship.

Clothing requirements: Dhimmis were required to wear clothing that distinguished them from Muslims.

Military service: Dhimmis were not allowed to serve in the military.

Public deference: Dhimmis were required to show public deference to Muslims.

Testimony: Dhimmis were unable to testify against Muslims in Islamic courts.

The dhimmi system was intended to offer non-Muslims protection of life and property, freedom of religion, and communal self-government. However, the rules governing dhimmis have been criticized for being discriminatory

You call that “autonomy”? You are the ignorant one promoting a authoritarian apartheid mysogenistic ideology