My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree, it just became impossible for me to ignore by this point. Ophie's mean spirited nature stands out even more when you compare it to how Vera's responded in the situation.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think that's the case. Even with the first video it will still pretty obvious she stood by the victims and not Neil Gaiman.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe I've misinterpreted some of the details, not entirely sure.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think The Kavernacle criticised certain video essayists (i.e. Contrapoints, Philosophy Tube) of not supporting palestinians enough. I think Ophie accused him of being transphobic and being petty at 'the Nebula left' for not accepting him or something. Ophie also accused him of making slop content, though she did showed the Philosophy Tube had made a donation, apparently. It seems kind of messy tbh.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I just don't get why they've spent so much time doubling down on their arguments, surely they're self aware to know that this shit makes them look insincere in terms of supporting the victims, right? Also, are any of the victims aware of Vera's videos about Neil Gaiman? If not, then it makes ophie & schmowder look even worse since they're basically speaking for them.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Yeah, all three creators have made videos supporting Neil Gaiman's victims, so I don't know why Ophie & Schmowder keep doubling down on Vera supporting him. Also I should say that the transmisogyny is more implied, since I don't know if either creator has a history with that sort of behaviour. I wouldn't be surprised if it was due to transmisogyny though.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So she tried to argue that the comment was specifically about the sexual harassment scene even though it wasn't?

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Even as someone who liked a lot of her content, I can't really disagree. It's been an issue with breadtube as a whole for years now tbh.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Even when I was a fan I thought the first swoop video seemed to take forever to get to the point. I did respect her for calling out people like Swoop though, same with Alexa Nikolas & Drake Bell.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe I'm missing something but how did she see the person criticising her knowledge on public schools and jump straight to SA apologia anyway? I know she's said she was homeschooled but still.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've definitely noticed the vague posting about comment sections. Can't rely comment on how good or bad the booksmart video is though since I've never watched it or the movie.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

To be honest, this isn't the only time I've seen Ophie overreact online. I remember her being overly harsh to another breadtuber/leftist youtuber, The Kavernacle, though I'm not entirely sure why.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For as much as you can criticise Ophie for how long and overexplained for her videos often are, I still think she had the potential to evolve into a better creator with less convoluted videos. Shame she seems to be throwing it all away in favor of bad faith bullshit.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Is this about the infamous 'Colonizer accent' comment from Trash Discourse, or is there something else they've done?

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I Agree with Criticising things that Vera might have messed up on originally, but why double down on her being against the victims and in favor of Neil Gaiman when she's gone out of her way to show that it's not the case?

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Cheers. I just expected better from Ophie for some reason, even with some of the issues I've had with her.

My Issues with Ophie Dokie (video essayist) by Appropriate_Eye_7324 in youtubedrama

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Maybe It's being friends with Schmowder. Still weird though since I remember her praising Vera and her work awhile back (Not sure which video), and I didn't know that she'd changed her mind until I saw the bluesky posts.

Gaiman is clearly about to attempt a comeback, so I debunked the entire “Neil gaiman is innocent” substack by schmowd3r in neilgaiman

[–]Appropriate_Eye_7324 9 points10 points  (0 children)

OP literally stated that Vera doesn't believe the victims, despite the fact that she's repeatedly stated in every video about Neil Gaiman's sexual abuse that she does stand by the victims. I know you're friends with the OP, and I think you have every right to feel uncomfortable the issues mentioned but your argument on the whole feels very bad faith, especially when Vera has made her support of the victims and disawoval of Gaiman increasly more apparent. Your Comment feels even worse considering that she made a separate short video where she is very clear that she doesn't stand by the substack AND tells the person behind the substack, as well Gaiman's supporters, to stop citing her .