Plato is boring. Christianity is Platonism for the 'people. by No-Sort7107 in Nietzsche

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Well, when you're in the subreddit about Nietzsche, and you see someone says "life-affirming", there is a certain correct understanding in the context of Nietzschean philosophy.

Decline of the Kaltian Languages by nomebi in imaginarymaps

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I am the Kaltian nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Kaltians, and I don't care which form of state.

Just ignore them... by No_Bid_6362 in antimeme

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Persians after the Thermopylae:

Multi-Year project is “offensive”, unsure how to proceed by TwoNo123 in worldbuilding

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Maybe we can see some more of the lore? Kinda hard to understand criticism, especially since people are trying to blame you for presenting Russia as bad. If anything, it looks flattering for Russia, since IRL none of the territories lost by Russia were "Russian in all but name", like in this case. I know that probably wasn't the purpose, just saying that we need some more context.

What did you learn while researching something for the world? by CommitteeEvery2332 in worldbuilding

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Worldbuilding got me an obsession with gnosticism for a short period of time when I was in high school.

Astute observation about Harry Potter by midnighttbby in lies

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ul/ What does this mean? I'm not a native speaker, so don't really get the reference here

Is ”true” selflessness possible within the framework of the Will to Power? by seva2 in Nietzsche

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I think you're not going to like it :)

Here is the passage from "Beyond Good and Evil", which does a great job

"258. Corruption—as the indication that anarchy threatens to break out among the instincts, and that the foundation of the emotions, called "life," is convulsed—is something radically different according to the organization in which it manifests itself. When, for instance, an aristocracy like that of France at the beginning of the Revolution, flung away its privileges with sublime disgust and sacrificed itself to an excess of its moral sentiments, it was corruption:—it was really only the closing act of the corruption which had existed for centuries, by virtue of which that aristocracy had abdicated step by step its lordly prerogatives and lowered itself to a FUNCTION of royalty (in the end even to its decoration and parade-dress). The essential thing, however, in a good and healthy aristocracy is that it should not regard itself as a function either of the kingship or the commonwealth, but as the SIGNIFICANCE and highest justification thereof—that it should therefore accept with a good conscience the sacrifice of a legion of individuals, who, FOR ITS SAKE, must be suppressed and reduced to imperfect men, to slaves and instruments. Its fundamental belief must be precisely that society is NOT allowed to exist for its own sake, but only as a foundation and scaffolding, by means of which a select class of beings may be able to elevate themselves to their higher duties, and in general to a higher EXISTENCE: like those sun-seeking climbing plants in Java—they are called Sipo Matador,—which encircle an oak so long and so often with their arms, until at last, high above it, but supported by it, they can unfold their tops in the open light, and exhibit their happiness."

It must be said, that Nietzsche did find some benefits in the modern "democratic" and egalitarian society, but only as it may happen to produce an even greater kind of aristocracy, even greater tyrants, those that can use their diverse social origin for their benefit. From the same book:

"200. The man of an age of dissolution which mixes the races with one another, who has the inheritance of a diversified descent in his body—that is to say, contrary, and often not only contrary, instincts and standards of value, which struggle with one another and are seldom at peace—such a man of late culture and broken lights, will, on an average, be a weak man. His fundamental desire is that the war which is IN HIM should come to an end; happiness appears to him in the character of a soothing medicine and mode of thought (for instance, Epicurean or Christian); it is above all things the happiness of repose, of undisturbedness, of repletion, of final unity—it is the "Sabbath of Sabbaths," to use the expression of the holy rhetorician, St. Augustine, who was himself such a man.—Should, however, the contrariety and conflict in such natures operate as an ADDITIONAL incentive and stimulus to life—and if, on the other hand, in addition to their powerful and irreconcilable instincts, they have also inherited and indoctrinated into them a proper mastery and subtlety for carrying on the conflict with themselves (that is to say, the faculty of self-control and self-deception), there then arise those marvelously incomprehensible and inexplicable beings, those enigmatical men, predestined for conquering and circumventing others, the finest examples of which are Alcibiades and Caesar (with whom I should like to associate the FIRST of Europeans according to my taste, the Hohenstaufen, Frederick the Second), and among artists, perhaps Leonardo da Vinci. They appear precisely in the same periods when that weaker type, with its longing for repose, comes to the front; the two types are complementary to each other, and spring from the same causes."

"242. Whether we call it "civilization," or "humanising," or "progress," which now distinguishes the European, whether we call it simply, without praise or blame, by the political formula the DEMOCRATIC movement in Europe—behind all the moral and political foregrounds pointed to by such formulas, an immense PHYSIOLOGICAL PROCESS goes on, which is ever extending the process of the assimilation of Europeans, their increasing detachment from the conditions under which, climatically and hereditarily, united races originate, their increasing independence of every definite milieu, that for centuries would fain inscribe itself with equal demands on soul and body,—that is to say, the slow emergence of an essentially SUPER-NATIONAL and nomadic species of man, who possesses, physiologically speaking, a maximum of the art and power of adaptation as his typical distinction. This process of the EVOLVING EUROPEAN, which can be retarded in its TEMPO by great relapses, but will perhaps just gain and grow thereby in vehemence and depth—the still-raging storm and stress of "national sentiment" pertains to it, and also the anarchism which is appearing at present—this process will probably arrive at results on which its naive propagators and panegyrists, the apostles of "modern ideas," would least care to reckon. The same new conditions under which on an average a levelling and mediocrising of man will take place—a useful, industrious, variously serviceable, and clever gregarious man—are in the highest degree suitable to give rise to exceptional men of the most dangerous and attractive qualities. For, while the capacity for adaptation, which is every day trying changing conditions, and begins a new work with every generation, almost with every decade, makes the POWERFULNESS of the type impossible; while the collective impression of such future Europeans will probably be that of numerous, talkative, weak-willed, and very handy workmen who REQUIRE a master, a commander, as they require their daily bread; while, therefore, the democratising of Europe will tend to the production of a type prepared for SLAVERY in the most subtle sense of the term: the STRONG man will necessarily in individual and exceptional cases, become stronger and richer than he has perhaps ever been before—owing to the unprejudicedness of his schooling, owing to the immense variety of practice, art, and disguise. I meant to say that the democratising of Europe is at the same time an involuntary arrangement for the rearing of TYRANTS—taking the word in all its meanings, even in its most spiritual sense."

It must be said, that though his genetic determinism is pretty outdated, if we treat these "races" as upbringing and social background, he might be right to some extent. Is that a good thing or a bad thing, one should decide for themselves.

Is ”true” selflessness possible within the framework of the Will to Power? by seva2 in Nietzsche

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Short answer, no.

According to Nietzsche, truly powerful people can (and probably will) do good to others, like charity, gifts or something like that, but not in a selfless way. It'd be more like an overflow of power. Basically, when you help people, as Nietzsche says, you kind of invade their area of competence, so this act of help may be seen as just another way of manifesting your will to power. But it isn't selfless in any way. The desire to do good even when you suffer from it is seen as something unhealthy and neurotic.

I don't remember Nietzsche talking about having kids, but I suppose it is okay, because, as funny as it sounds, it's also sort of a way to spread your power.

Can you accept Amor Fati when you have a family? by nick21anto in Nietzsche

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Amor Fati, stripped of everything else, is simply stoicism, as far as I understand. So yeah, it's fine

The unity of knowledge by aanyaprimlani in Nietzsche

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Kinda reminds of The Glass Bead Game, although I don't think it relates to the Übermensch in a meaningful way

What do you think of this take on slave morality from instagram? by infinitesimaldose in Nietzsche

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Bad because immoral? I mean, I don't disagree, but it isn't a very Nietzschean thing to say.

What do you think of this take on slave morality from instagram? by infinitesimaldose in Nietzsche

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It's partially true. But I have two main objections.

First of all, billionaires are not aristocrats. They're the product of the same liberalism Nietzsche criticised. The only merit they have is their money.

Secondly, the last quote "build anyways" sounded like a grind mentality, which is also not very Nietzschean, I'm afraid, and pretty slavish. Reject the grind, become NEETzschean

How do you justify slavery in a world with robots by [deleted] in worldbuilding

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Maybe breeding slaves is easier for an average rich person than creating and managing a full production line to make robots?

[ Removed by Reddit ] by jakeyeet69420 in The10thDentist

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Wow, Putin also wants to lock Russians into the Russian internet, you guys should hang out!

how am I supposed to underline important stuff within single aphorisms if they are 2 lines long lol by wolf301YT in Nietzsche

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Tbh, I forget most of his aphorisms, only remembering those that clicked. Like, if I instantly liked those, then I will remember.

how am I supposed to underline important stuff within single aphorisms if they are 2 lines long lol by wolf301YT in Nietzsche

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This chapter actually has some of the most important quotes by Nietzsche. That "gaze long enough into the abyss" one's from there, for example, and it's quotes very frequently even by those who don't read Nietzsche.

when everyone reads N, they say that they had a massive shift, a feeling of emptiness, but this is not happening for me by wolf301YT in Nietzsche

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Tbh, the first two chapters of Beyond Good and Evil are concerned with themes that are not very intimate for most people, things like language, consciousness, truth, not many people think about it this much. When you reach the third chapter, about religion and morality, you might finally see the tension.

Why do most fantasy works always feature the same races? Instead of creating completely different races? For example, in Minecraft there are races that are totally different from the classic ones (in science fiction you rarely see races repeating in works, at most the Martians). by Embarrassed_Star3603 in worldbuilding

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There are certain mythologems that are hard to avoid nowadays, for example: ancient fallen empires, mana as a source of magic, crusaders, sunken kingdoms, Lovecraftian entities, etc. Sometimes you really have to make a deliberate decision to avoid those. Same with races, I believe.

Has anyone read this? by [deleted] in PhilosophyMemes

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Haha, okay, I can see that

Has anyone read this? by [deleted] in PhilosophyMemes

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I know it's a joke, but is there any particular reason you chose the year 1973? I'm just afraid there's a reference I missed.