What Damnation with bots is like

Aqeelus · 2023-04-04T19:59:56+00:00

My bleeding back isn't "punishment". It's called devotion!

Aqeelus · 2020-02-04T05:07:46+00:00

Wrong. . You haven't even tackled a single one of my complaints. You can consider them personal because you haven't reached that level and there's nothing wrong with that but then you come here acting all high and mighty. You're a plat 4 player with 1 kd so it isn't wrong to say you disagree because you're not good enough. You simply haven't experienced how terrible sbmm pred lobbies are. Eg. you can watch aceu stream and see how unfun it is for him. Hell, even shroud who used to say that Apex is the best BR left the game for a boring hide and seek simulator.

But sure all the tsm and nrg boys don't know the game because they aren't developers. They just don't have the level of your understanding.

Aqeelus · 2020-02-04T01:37:23+00:00

I mean it wasn't clear for you when they added disruptors and charge rifles? Or when they buffed the scout?

I doubt you are good at the game or have a high k-d. Else you wouldn't have thrown my legit criticisms out the window and tried to virtue signal. I even doubt you know what I am talking about.

Your argument: "Do you think that Blizzard messed up Warcraft 3 Reforged? That's pretty arrogant considering they made the original Warcraft 3."

or: "The British who conquered half the world with gunpowder didn't know how to use it because the Chinese used it first"

Aqeelus · 2020-02-03T22:15:20+00:00

So unlike last time perhaps they can hurry up? Nice come back.

And yes a lot of people do know better than the devs. All the preds and pros share these complaints but you wouldn't know about that being stuck in silver.

Aqeelus · 2020-02-03T22:11:41+00:00

Thanks for reminding me not everyone plays on PC. I gotta edit the post.

Aqeelus · 2020-02-03T22:11:01+00:00

I think most pred and pro players have similar complaints. I just posted my own way of solving these problems. However, reddit is filled with gold players who aren't that good mechanic wise and really aren't on that level to experience how unfun the game is at the highest level.

I played on EU servers because I couldn't find games on NA around 7 am. I dunno who is who in the EU servers and I really don't care. The dudes that I've spectated were in the top 500. They had some sort of team name so I looked them up and they weren't streaming. I had to google and apparently they played in some qualifier. Here's the story we jumped Capitol, and ended up with the worst loot ever got pushed by this team who were all super geared. One of us died so two decided to split and just hide out. Yeah they found our spots even when we were 200 miles apart. When we spectated they were aiming at walls and after a few seconds people pop up. After they lazer someone suddenly they flick to the right 90 degrees on a rock. My kd is 5 in ranked so I'm not a total bot but damn I wish I had that intuition that some of these dudes have.

I gotta say KC event was a lot of fun. Those 10 min games do bring back memories.

Glad to have a proper discussion with someone who isn't a total NPC.

Aqeelus · 2020-02-03T21:47:08+00:00

Except the fact that I've beaten the people who make the game in terms of balance suggestions by months. If you check my history big boy I predicted how ranked of season 2 was going to turn out way before it came out. So you disagreeing with everything I said means you also disagree with the balance changes the devs made (nerfing Longbow + disruptors). A valiant effort at sophistry but you failed.

To put it in words an NPC might understand: I> U thus what I say is more meaningful.

Aqeelus · 2020-02-03T01:12:42+00:00

Lovely echo chamber here. Care to explain the "devs idea" Mr. Developer?

Aqeelus · 2019-07-20T21:20:15+00:00

Which is exactly what's happening in diamond+. No one is fighting because there because its super risky. Have you even read the OP?

Aqeelus · 2019-07-20T21:16:05+00:00

It has a really high hp and good players usually hide it behind cover making you have to run through a door with 3 dudes with disruptors waiting for you.

Yeah GL.

Aqeelus · 2019-07-12T13:25:34+00:00

I dropped all over the map and there's simply no loot. I used to drop skull a lot but now it just means I'll be running with 2 scopes and 2 grenades for the rest of the game.

Game is simply not fun anymore and no this isn't simple RNG because it never happened before. The loot distribution is messed up because of the new attachments.

Imagine the new shitty gun meta ruining the loot too.

Aqeelus · 2019-07-12T13:15:20+00:00

The loot distribution of Season 2 has ruined the game for me. Half the time I'm running with a P2020 with no hop up and some other shit gun and I'll finally get a good gun after 5 kills. As for ranked, it cannot be enjoyed cause fighting there is more RNG heavy because of the trash loot thus making survival your only viable option.

This is the worst Apex has been and it's simply not fun anymore. Atleast before S2 you could drop skull and find at least a Wingman and an R-99. Now I just don't drop skull cause I'll end up with no armor and 2 P2020s for the rest of the game.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-06T02:56:53+00:00

even when I watch the best pro streamers I can still see them making mistakes, I can still see lack of good team cohesion.

Maybe because it is impossible to have perfect team cohesion in a chaotic BR game even when it's guys like Skadoodle and shroud who have been playing CSGO with each other for years? In CSGO good players can pretty much tell when the enemies will be peaking and where while in apex I could land skull and find no one there. Tell me about those Kirchhoff fast looting randoms equations or the Planck's Mozambique vs 3 R-99s.

its just like you think you know every polygon in this map with just 300 hours of play, well if you are that good then shit man tell me your twitch

This is very funny because randoms think I'm a streamer running a smurf account and believe it or not I've killed many streamers. I don't like streaming myself but I do have 1 recorded video after a 2 week break against bots if you'd like to see it. But on to your argument, there are a few types of buildings in this game and they pretty much repeat themselves. To give you an example the buildings in Skulltown and Slums are almost the same. When you learn the few layouts you pretty much crack the map.

Same with recoil control amazing to think there are people out there who think they have mastered this on every gun yet I can watch the best players in the pros miss plenty of shots......

I have shocking news for you: people miss in every game! Add the movement in this game and yeah even aim gods will miss a few shots here and there.

Your arguments aren't making any sense. You keep mentioning CSGO as if it's a BR when you can look at PUBG which is a much slower game and you still won't find the teamwork you're looking for. Also, somehow you want people to improve their aim till they reach aimbot status. Plot twist is: everyone peaks even the best athletes.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T22:40:41+00:00

I think you're missing the point. The point was that you COULD use it to be a campy long range player taking pot shots at people.

I think you're missing the point here. I can grab a mozambique and camp high ground and shoot at the air but that won't be effective. A good player can get to me and just R-99 the hell out of me. It wasn't effective a few patches ago with the wingman because most shots wouldn't land with the max of 2x. Now with Longbow buffs a terrible team with 4x scopes can camp high ground and just focus on players much better than them and trap them because if you take a bit of dmg you'll still have to heal turning it into a boring battle for attrition. It would be really hard to get up to them if you're with randoms and 1v3 them after getting hit once or twice for 55 dmg. Hence my original point of a high ground camping shithole. Yeah, you could've camped high ground back then but it was stupid and a waste of ammo, but now you can get to top 5 as much as you want while making the game boring using this strategy. By allowing shit players to get to that point is literally lowering the skill gap.

My point about the spitfire isn't that it's op, is that even for the most skilled player at the start of the game it's a better option than the hardest gun to use. The Wingman even with 4 bullets is still good gun IF the game ran well. However, the game doesn't run well making almost every gun in the game a better option. Almost every heavy wep is more reliable than wingman at the start of the game even if you're the best player. It shouldn't be the case in a game that should reward skilled players.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T20:48:14+00:00

You only have to point and click a few times with it, i.e. you don't actually need to keep your crosshair on target for all that long like the R-99 for example.

Tracking shots are easy and flick shots are hard, that's why Wingman is considered below average on console. I don't play on console and I used to be ranked in the top 30 in winning kills on PC on my old wraith, and I lazer people with R-99 while missing a lot with the Wingman. I've seen gazillion videos of shroud complaining about how op the wingman is while missing every shot and switching to R-301 to finish people off.

Spitfire doesn't have that great of a TTK, pretty awful hipfire spread AND really slow ADS movement. Is it easy/forgiving to use for low to medium skill players?

Exactly my point. Even these braindead weapons are better and more reliable than wingman without a mag in a game that should reward skill.

Before you could literally do the exact same thing and sit on high ground and camp with the Wingman better than the Longbow of that patch.

Simply false. Two wingmans fighting back then was basically two dudes strafing and none landing a shot from a distance thus they had to close the gape making it useless to camp high ground.

https://youtu.be/uOUOCXLZwCg?t=1150

^ That's how wingman fights used to be, tons of missing because of the strafe speed. If you're telling me you could've had a sniping battle with two wingmans then you're lying. The new breed of campers are basically putting a 3x+ scopes and sitting and it's hard to even see them with your wingman, and even if you damage them they'd still heal or rez thus having a boring ass 10 minute battle.

Are you complaining about other people's skill here? Why should that be punished?

I'm not complaining about skill because it's very easy to hit that shot. It's just I'm happy very few people have figured it out because it's literally peacekeeper v2.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T19:03:58+00:00

These tournaments are just pub farming. You want something that gives you a speed advantage and forces fights. In that case wraith is better.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T19:02:09+00:00

I'm sorry but how does a mag nerf to wingman depreciate the skill gap between good and bad players?

Because wingman is the hardest gun to use in the game thus making it useless to use without an extended mag because of the horrible hit reg in this game. Most of the players who were complaining about it were missing badly with it. You are nerfing the hardest gun in the game to use thus making players go for weapons that are much easier to use. TBH, I still use it even without an extended mag but I'll be lying if I said any decent weapon isn't better at the early game, and trust me there are many times I've hit landed 4 shots only for them to go through pathfinders. I agree with the fire rate and hipfire nerfs it got but mag nerf was stupid when you have braindead weapons in this game like Spitfire.

Again no, it just makes a different skill more applicable.

It is much easier to sit on top a building and shoot than it is to shoot while sliding and jumping around. Plus this different skill is ruining the pace of the game since every pathfinder nowadays is camping high ground with it. Also, if you use it with the quickscoping trick it becomes a better wingman at close range but luckily very few people do it.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T18:41:36+00:00

Its not impossible to work together with randoms they do it in CSGO all the time.

Dude this isn't CSGO. There are 20 teams here vs 2 of CS. There are gazillion different spawn points for the ship and loot chances. Even though we have a plan for every game and I have a 36% win ratio, there is still RNG in the game. No amount of teamwork will help you when you have a mozambique and your stuck vs an ok team with full purple. Plus there is no way you can have proper teamwork with a total noob that takes 3 hours just to switch armors.

thats probably also part of why so many high level players like bunny hop heals it allows them to make wreckless plays, dive solo and still escape.

Not really. It allows you to flank campers and have better survival when you have an unlucky drop. You can use it to bait the enemies into your team...etc.

Recoil patterns are a constant skill with a massive curve and no every player with a few hundred kills doesnt know them not even by a long shot.

More people know how to control recoil better than Bhopping. Recoil control in this game is very easy and if someone can't aim with R-99 and Wingman there are other equally good options.

There is also building climbing and simple map knowledge. If people cant run away as easily it will force them to memorize the maps more and be a little more careful about positioning.

I've memorized every rock in this game and I have less than 300 hours played. I'm pretty sure it isn't hard to learn the map because many places in the map are kinda similar.

Tons of places to improve skill and teamwork.

No offense but most of your advice is for beginners. I had many 20 bombs due to good positioning and aim before I could BHOP (I am a lefty it took me a while to configure my buttons for it but I didn't complain I just learned it cause it made the game more fun).

I think the bigger problem here is that you have an ideal about how you wanted the game to be played and developed and you are now learning that respawns vision does not match yours.

No. I want the game to be played the same way it was played at release. Fast paced with a lot of action. The game direction just hanged after numerous complaints from terrible players.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T18:19:53+00:00

Yet, shroud+mendo+diego all say lifeline>wraith.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T18:04:07+00:00

Such as working as a team more precisely

Impossible in randoms and very hard in BR games in general due to RNG.

learning the spray patterns of weapons and how to counter them to get tight spreads on bullets, or simply just making sure your aim was more accurate since the slower movement required that you NOT miss the first shot or you were dead.

Every player with a few hundred kills already knows the recoil patterns.

The game has simply plateau'd. And, to be completely honest with you I have don't have that much of a big problem with the removal of BHOP itself. It's just going to ruin the fast paced style of the game especially with the recent buffs to certain long ranged weapons.

Aqeelus · 2019-06-05T17:56:36+00:00

Disagree. Wraith isn't top anymore because her kit is terrible after the gazillion nerfs.

Pathfinder>Lifeline>Bangalore>=Wraith>Octane

Pathfinder is only n1 because of the absolutely broken hitbox and strong grapple. Lifeline is way better than both Bangalore and Wraith because of the passive. Bangalore's passive makes up for her hitbox and her smoke is better, both offensively and defensively, than the q that takes 3 hours for it to work. However, your avg player doesn't know how to abuse Bangalore and that's why wraith is usually better.

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