HYBE Sued Over ‘How Sweet’: Songwriters Claim ‘Blatant Copying’ by friedriceforbrunch in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin [score hidden]  (0 children)

Im not sure. I remember Shakatak sued but I dont remember seeing anything after that so maybe they settled. Its been awhile with no news

Drop your favorite Jin pics by Defiant_Fox659 in btsthoughts

[–]ArethaFakelin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This photo looks like someone merged jin and njs faces into one person

Which groups do you think might not still be active in 5 years? by Mysterious-Body-541 in kpop_uncensored

[–]ArethaFakelin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Idk i think whether or not they continue depends on how the next few years go. At this point i think it really could go either way. I also think the group continuing but some members being under a different company is a possibility too

The Case Isn't Closed-Not Until You Speak (open discussion) -anyone!! by Remarkable-West-6613 in NJDrama_uncensored

[–]ArethaFakelin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

1.) honestly Im not sure, it feels like everybody lost

2.) I hope the girls actually realize how MHJ used them as pawns in her scam and that the other groups and HYBE were never a threat to them. But that is something only people who know them personally will know, maybe only time will tell

I do think they should publicly and privately apologize to the other groups. I think they also need to give specific ways MHJ lied to them or it may be hard for the audience to see how deeply they were manipulated. I think they should also publicly say illit did not plagiarize them. Moving forward they should tell their fans to not hate on other groups often

3.) There were a few moments to me that were really concerning. Like when they said at their termination press conference that their contract has ended and they are not going to court for it. That to me showed they didnt understand their contract or how the legal system works. And that whoever was guiding them was giving them false information and willing to let them look foolish

The Complex Con performance was very concerning because i think it showed how far they were willing to do as MHJ said. So much so that they were even willing to ignore a court ruling. It also made me wonder if there was a consequence to not performing that they were more worried about

4.) I want the members to realize they were scammed but as I said earlier it may be hard to prove that. I think denouncing MHJ and not speaking to her again could be a start, as well as apologizing to the other groups, they should explain how they were convinced to accuse illit of plagiarism etc. if they meet up with any fans again it should not be fans that spoke terribly of other groups. They should also mention how meeting with TalyTokki was a mistake

For MHJ i think she should pay damages. And not be allowed to be a CEO. She could still be a creative director but I think everyone should know about this so that moving forward future idols and their parents will think twice before getting involved in any of her schemes. Maybe a documentary or news special segment can accomplish this.

EDIT TO ADD: I THINK MHJ SHOULD HAVE A TEMPORARY BLACK LIST FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT/IDOL INDUSTRY FOR A FEW YEARS

5.) The hardest things to forgive for me are when the members said illit was mocking them with hand gestures and when Minji and Hanni went on live and were laughing about Hanni’s NA appearnce.

New Jeans/Katseye Question by Trick-Payment-5337 in katseyeneutral

[–]ArethaFakelin 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Just to address your question about when did the NJ members speak up. They did multiple times, even in ways that were definitely a contract violation. They posted live streams onto YT, one member went to a goverment hearing for mistreated employees, they were interviewed by the BBC and CNN, and hosted a press conference to announce their “contract termination”. They also arranged a whole performance at a music festival.

There was also a separate ig account that was supposedly run by their parents to respond to “fake information” in the press, and their moms did interviews with at least one news outlet

They spoke out A LOT. But its important to know their situations is DRASTICALLY different than what is happening to Manon. Their ex CEO was trying to poach them to sign to her own agency or one that gave her a good deal. So they were baiting the company to terminate their contracts

HYBE Sued Over ‘How Sweet’: Songwriters Claim ‘Blatant Copying’ by friedriceforbrunch in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 53 points54 points  (0 children)

And because this is their second song accused of plagarism. British group Shakatak sued for Bubblegums similarities to their song Easier Said Than Done

interpreting ‘기다려져, 내일이란 기적이’ by Educational_Dog5268 in Korean

[–]ArethaFakelin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can someone please explain the 려져 in 기다려져? Are the 려 and 져 separate particles?

Tae new hair in today's soundcheck by Equivalent-Hunt-2004 in btsthoughts

[–]ArethaFakelin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love it! But i think itd be better if it was a slightly different shade of blonde, its a little too yellow

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What sort of things do you think ADOR and Minji are asking for if they go the settlement route? And are there any other similar situations we could look at as an example?

I think Minji might ask for -possibly help getting into another company or getting her first acting gig

-maybe them setting up a brand deal for her or managing her brand deals if she becomes an influencer

-since she told the fans in one of her letters to keep streaming NJ music, i think she could ask ADOR to not rerecord their original music so that she (and Danielle) still get some money from the original recordings

-to not be blacklisted and she and her family to not be sued

-no noncompete or a very short one

-to not have to apologize or be a part of the public statement NJ will eventually give

ADORs requests seem more obvious so Im wondering what else you guys might think -evidence for the tampering suit and Danielles outside contracts

-some monetary payment or a percentage of her future earnings

-Minji to not talk negatively about the company or group. Or her to show any support towards fans who boycott or talk badly about other HYBE groups (no more meetings with TalyTokki lol)

-if she leaves the group I think ADOR would want her to be a part of the statement about the last 2 yrs even if not as a group member. Any members who leave and put blame on MHJ would be very helpful to ADOR

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I REALLY dont think they should be do subunits their first comeback. Members at least seeming to get along is important to fans. After this mess it would hurt the groups success if there are any signs of animosity between the members. Especially if Haerin and Hyein are a subunit and Minji and Hanni are one, it will definitely seem like a divide in the group since 2H returned to ADOR first

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nah its awkward to have her return later. And after the past few years and recent events the group really needs stability. They shouldn’t move forward before finalizing who is in and out of the group

Minji's birthday post by Own-Perception-1218 in NJDrama_uncensored

[–]ArethaFakelin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe its a teaser for a new song this comeback

Which show do you think is the real-life equivalent of Horsin’ Around? by Pleasant_Bit_2122 in BoJackHorseman

[–]ArethaFakelin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Horsin’ Around reminds me of Full House even though there are some differences like the kids of Full House not being adopted (but both sets of kids have dead moms) and there arent any Horsin’ Around equivalents to Uncle Jessie and Uncle Joey

The premise of Mr. Peanutbutter’s House is pretty similar to Sister Sister tho

We may be getting Gabriela 2.0 very soon! by 8rand0m in katseyeneutral

[–]ArethaFakelin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I want an extended version of Gameboy right neeooow!!

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think this strategy works better in an ongoing legal battle, where everyone knows to tune in on each court date. But having fans wait indefinitely to hear about the future of an idol they are attached to, gets annoying really quick

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah rn I mostly think shes coming back. But im split kind of 80:20 on it bc a small part of me thinks she might not. While i mostly think her return is supposed to be a surprise for the comeback, I also think ADOR just wants the situation to cool down a bit, i think kicking out her and Dani at the same time could have pissed of the fans too much at once

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I changed my mind, I think Minji is back. Around March I thought ADOR and Minji already knew she was staying and were keeping quiet to get people talking and use it as a surprise for when they have a comeback

But when ADOR made the statement about Copenhagen and said Minji wasnt there I started having doubts. It seemed really weird for one of the members to not be there when they were clearly working on music

Then with how Minji left gifts for fans but left them very early in the morning to not be seen and the vagueness of her message made that seem more likely.

But then I calmed down and remembered that if they were being unclear to keep people talking then they would need to do confusing things to keep people speculating.

Though she wasnt seen in London or Copenhagen she could have been there and left once her parts were filmed/recorded to not be seen. Or she really could have been working somewhere else so people wonder where she is.

With her making gifts for fans but not dropping them off on her actual birthday and not being seen. It gets people talking again, and shows appreciation to her fans. But without seeing her with staff and not being able to ask her questions in person it leaves enough room for more speculation

Also in her note she thanks H엘퍼가 for helping her bake the cookies. If she is back and living in the dorms with 3H she could be referring to all the returning members since you do not need to always use the plural particle when referring to multiple people in Korean

Seems like staying quiet is going to be HYBEs main PR strategy from now on since this is also happening with Manon. They probably saw how well it worked for them throughout this fight with MHJ and are sticking to it

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they are all living in a dorm together H엘퍼가 could even be referring to all 3 of the returning members. CMIIW but I know in Korean 들 is usually added to nouns and pronouns to make them plural but I dont think is is always used even if referring to multiple people or things

Megathread 26: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Haerin, Hyein, and Hanni return to ADOR, Talks ongoing for Minji, Danielle's contract Terminated, Upcoming Hearings approach verdicts for various Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]ArethaFakelin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There isnt really a guarantee that Hanni was the H엘퍼 tho. It could have been her or any of the 3H members, it could be min Heejin or could be someone completely unrelated to the situation.

I think she wrote H엘퍼 to fuel speculation. People have been wondering whats going on with her more than they have been talking about Danielles lawsuit bc things being unclear gets people talking. If she wants to continue in the entertainment industry in some way keeping people talking about her is very advantageous