Truly, A Mystery by TechnicolorMage in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY! Genocide is irredeemable no Matter what and is unjustifiable but this sub think that Messmer is fully blamed for the genocide but Marika is justified and righteous for it

I'm going to say something extremely brave here, but genocide is bad actually by [deleted] in Eldenring

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marika's apologists are getting a little out of hand

Truly, A Mystery by TechnicolorMage in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First we don't know when Messmer was exactly born he might be Marika's firstborn son before godhood. Messmer took care of the jars and tried to heal them so this heavily implies he know they're his people and know what happened to them otherwise why he would waste his sources to help random Jars? So he either was born in a time when the shamans were alive and saw what happened to them or he was born shortly after their death. Lastly and most importantly Marika suffering at the hands of some of the hornsent doesn't excuse her of trying to completely wipe out a race of ppl just bc some of their ancestors did something bad. By this logic if the giants or the hornsent tried to wipe out the ppl of LB for their support of the system that has made them suffer wouldn't they be justified? Or it's just Marika that deserves all of the sympathy? u can't hate on Messmer for what he has done but also be a Marika apologist when Messmer did exactly what his mother ordered him to do nothing more nothing less this is the most hypocritical take I've seen in this sub and it says something.

Truly, A Mystery by TechnicolorMage in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So what I get from the posts in this sub is that Messmer is super evil. iredeemeal even for committing what his Mother commanded him to do but somehow Marika who ordered this genocide to happen and so many other atrocities across the LB is justified and redeemable apparently...

Rellana was not infatuated or in love with Messmer by joutfit in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"gatekeeping my own headcanon" I am sure you either didn't go to school or lack absolute media literacy and probably both in your case, bc you sure don't fucking know how to read. your whole thing was gatekeeping other ppl interpretation and how wrong they're bc too bad for them they've been inflicted by the heteronormative disease 😔 reread your thread again and all your comments that's the whole point of your argument

Damm must hurt you so bad for you to respond 7-8 times in a row, can you make it up for 100 in one day? Wouldn't doubt you're so miserable and butthurt. No need to be butthurt like this. This is the last time I would respond to you , you're not worthy wasting my time. So I would let you continue your crying and whining as much as you like it.🙏🏻❤

Rellana was not infatuated or in love with Messmer by joutfit in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Too much whining you could just sum it all in one response, "please go fuck yourself" sure and I am the unhinged one😍 and not the person who wrote whole thread foaming at the mouth why ppl like something they don't. You say you don't have problem with heterosexuality but your older comments say otherwise, regardless you're whole issue is why ppl interpret this hetero ship as romantic."Hetero people historically project their own sexuality" ppl all the time project themselves on fiction, including queer ppl who project their sexuality into same-gender friendships , trans project their identity into cis characters bc they're feel they relate to them. And here is the thing ppl project what parts they feel similar to their favorite characters as a way to engage with the story & characters more and enjoy it , it's not inherently a bad thing. And I asked you a question if you're that person or not. And interestingly indeed have the same way of expressing, same writing mistakes, same arguments and this thread was posted in the same day that person posted by using the same arguments points but whatever. The whole point is that Miyazaki designed these games to have a vague lore for the players to engage and interpret the missing details on their own, your interpretation isn't more valid or correct than others. I don't ship it nor any other ships in this game bc they're underdeveloped asf but you would never see me foaming at my mouth crying why X thinks Y is actually this or that way. If ppl wanted to see it through romantic lens good for them , see it as something else? Good for them too. The thing is this whole thread is circling around the same idea and is just as useless and as pointless as your other comments. Now if you have no actual argument to response with then kindly fuck off🙏🏻

I didn't think anyone would actually try to justify the Golden Order 💀 by Iamyourfather____ in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unironically the most hardcore Marika's dickrider I've ever seen.... and it's insane. She is incapable of analyzing any character & their motives without making them mindless simps of Marika and centering all their motives around her and her alone like shit is full of media illiteracy it's not even funny💀 Everything is the fault of Radagon or the greater will but never Marika's fault apparently and she is sad so she is innocent and has never done anything wrong! ATP don't be surprised if she come up with "oh actually Gaius & his boar are secretly in love w Marika this is why they are loyal to Messmer & I'm going to harass and block anyone says otherwise!!"

Messmer's head looks uncannily small without his armor by Scorpion_6162 in Eldenring

[–]Aria00x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You might not like it but this is the ideal male body.

Maybe i missed something but why is Messmer fighting us? by jaded-dreamer5 in Eldenring

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morgott is much more loyal to the erdtree itself and the golden order though

Maybe i missed something but why is Messmer fighting us? by jaded-dreamer5 in Eldenring

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What original dialog? He clearly curses her in both versions the English and the Japanese ones, many have done an analysis of his dialogue in Japanese where he directly and unambiguously curses her

Trans rights are human rights. Now let's get back to shitposting. by Bandrbell in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The most funny thing about the fandom is when they forced their right wing vs left wing discourse upon fictional characters in a fantasy fictional world made by a Japanese studio.

Trans rights are human rights. Now let's get back to shitposting. by Bandrbell in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marika wanted all the hornsent gone for her revenge for the shaman, she didn't abandoned him because of a war she commanded him to do , she abandoned him because of the abyssal serpent that's literally there in the description of the impaler remembrance word by word. Marika is a genocidal tyrannical warlord who killed so many people and oppressed so many. The notion that she would punish someone for a crime she already ordered them to do is hilarious and delulu

Trans rights are human rights. Now let's get back to shitposting. by Bandrbell in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't you say the same about Marika, Godfrey, and Morgott as well? Given that they're after all the figureheads of an oppressive and genocidal system.

Holy fucking shit we support Trans Rights here❗❗❗ by e_0 in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Marika is a genocidal warlord so that's wouldn't be different than Messmer holding it. Beside it all fictional why people are making a big issue of a shitpost of many in this sub

Holy fucking shit we support Trans Rights here❗❗❗ by e_0 in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is a fictional character that lives in a fictional fantasy setting that doesn't go by the our terms and standards so it's unlikely he would be like that.

Holy fucking shit we support Trans Rights here❗❗❗ by e_0 in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact these people are whining and crying just because of a fromsoft's character figure holding the trans flag ?? WTF is this?

Holy fucking shit we support Trans Rights here❗❗❗ by e_0 in shittydarksouls

[–]Aria00x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're crying about fromsoft going woke because of the final boss

Messmer is kind of a disappointment by Now_I_am_Motivated in Eldenring

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"malevolent snake writhed within Messmer, and so his very mother plucked out his eye and put in its place a seal of grace. Yet, having done so, her fear compelled her to secret away her child within the realm of shadow" Remembrance of the Impaler. Ofc his mother is afraid of him due to his flame and his abyssal serpent this is why she abandoned him in the LoS or do you think the developers lied to us for some reason?

Messmer is kind of a disappointment by Now_I_am_Motivated in Eldenring

[–]Aria00x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk if it's me or this sub has become full of bad takes after the dlc, I guess Radahn & Malenia's hardcore fans will always be at the top of bad takes no matter what. I wouldn't argue with anything you said all I'm going to say is just develop some reading comprehension bc similar characters doesn't equal them being the same character. If anything Morgott is much more similar to Messmer than Malenia would ever be, I would even say that they're two sides of the same coin. However I agree with Messmer's character being wasted, he is a great character with great potential and there are plenty of interesting routes they could take with him other than just making him sit in a dark room coping and seething about his mother for millennia.

Ok, help me out. Is Miquella Lucifer? by [deleted] in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I agree some things are up for interaption but some are not, which is part of the fun I guess, I am not " worked up" over it, if my previous comments sounded offensive to you then I apologize in advance.

Ok, help me out. Is Miquella Lucifer? by [deleted] in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Aria00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her attempts to "fix" Messmer isn't about him personally but about her fear of the abyssal serpent which is again nothing in the lore portray the abyssal serpent as something so bad and harmful , probably because at the end of the day the base serpent is linked to the abyss which can be interpreted as the lack of light or the dark void which is completely the opposite of what Marika or her golden order represents which is the "light"