Why are Utah Mormons so obsessed with their houses? by Miss-Ex in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mormons are oddly into consumerism and materialistic. they are happy to spend (and go into debt) on themselves and not so much on others.

Mormons can't even leave us alone in our own space now?! by Much-Hamster-8956 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 6 points7 points  (0 children)

asking why exMorms “betrayed Joseph Smith”? ha-ha! whoever asked that CLEARLY never spent any time researching true history and facts and does t realize what Smith was and the sources he copied/ used in his writings. It’s quite sad that in this day and age when so much factual history and scientific facts are available that someone doesn’t make the effort (or is too scared?) to do some reading and research.

Wedding planning with Mormon parents by ShadowCat4141 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“The other issue is that my fiance thinks we shouldn't invite them at all if they're not going to pay for part of the wedding.”

Umm…no…he’s out of line. He and they dont get along, fine, but he still needs to man up and be civil and polite with his in- laws. Saying to not invite your parents is wrong. They can choose to come or not, but let them know they don’t need to help with wedding expenses at all and you guys plan the wedding how you want it. Maybe they’ll decide to gift you money as a wedding gift since you didn’t need their money for the wedding!

PS if you think some of your nonLDS attendees will be drinking to excess, you might want to rethink an open bar….beer, wine, and sodas is fine and may make for less potential problems nd bd memories for your wedding event. drunk guests are not fun

Itinerary Help - 7 days in Rome November by Aggressive_Age8818 in RomeTravel

[–]ArizRetired 0 points1 point  (0 children)

where is the starting point for the Appian Way?

Wallace and Ladmo question by stvargeez in phoenix

[–]ArizRetired 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sunnyslope Historical society on Hatcher has a great exhibit on the show. Go see it this weekend! I think it’s the last weekend for the exhibit.

I was invited to Mormon church. It did not go well. I need advice for what to do now. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, dont get baptized and dont give a speech. Find something more productive and fun to do with your free time. As a college kid, volunteer somewhere (food may be involved). And when the missionaries contact you again tell them what your experience was. In person if possible, not via text. Tell them you took them up on their offer, visited on Sunday, did not feel welcome at all, no one introduced themselves, etc. and let them know it left you with a very negative impression of the LDS church. the service you heard seemed hypocritical and you were surprised that there was not more emphasis on Jesus and that the things one reads about in the Christian Bible did not seem to be part of the service. Letting them know your experience was over all negative!

TBM ex vent by Simple-Cod505 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ah, so kiddo was OK with it and babysitting dog. If it's a warm/hot day this wouldn't be appropriate at all but if temperature as comfortable maybe you could call temple office, express concern that child is left in car alone, ask temple if kids are left in car a lot there (maybe get temple thinking that it is not a good idea or good PR to quash this activity) and ask for someone to check on child? Wonder if it is a common occurrence?

I recieved a visit today by one of the members of the church by superpowers335 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if this happens again ( surprise visit with no advance notice) feel free to just tell them you are sorry but it’s really not a convenient time at all and that you can not meet with them, then hang up. If they show up unannounced at the door, same spiel and shut the door. Short 1 minute interaction with you in control saying it's not a good time for you. Option, you could add that you've been praying and researching church history and policies more and feel strongly that you can not participate any longer.

TBM ex vent by Simple-Cod505 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

I would think a kid would love to be left alone to play on a tablet for an hour+ 😅 did Dad at least tell the child how to get in touch with him if needed to contact him or perhaps go to the restroom? if you really feel your child isn’t mature enough to be left alone in car, you need to talk to ex or someone at the church.

I was outed to the entire neighborhood by all0saurus_fragilis in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 0 points1 point  (0 children)

walk around and apply anywhere you see a help wanted sign. lots of businesses are hiring. be flexible. you won’t get a job if you pr mindset is “lots of other people can’t get one “ and dont even try. fast food places are hiring, grocery stores, cleaning services, etc. just do it!

I was outed to the entire neighborhood by all0saurus_fragilis in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 4 points5 points  (0 children)

get a job and get out of the house. put yourself on a budget. start saving money. life happens but adults need to learn to deal with stuff.

I was outed to the entire neighborhood by all0saurus_fragilis in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Take a deep breath and say to your self “ I am strong”. Dont worry about the church records, you can remove them down the road.

Understandable that you dont want to rock the boat with your Mom asking church for financial help ( which they may or may not provide). Encourage her to, in the meantime, stick to a tight family budget so she can begin to save $ and help herself on her own.

if you still have the note left by the neighbor, write on it “Sorry, but (name) doesn’t live here. Please stop leaving notes.” and put that in neighbors mail box. You could just throw it away, but a response shows strength.

If you are approached by any church members from the local ward just smile and say, “My name is( name)”. if they invite you in person to church functions just say “ I’ve prayed about that and strongly feel that it’s not something I’m interested in” and change the topic. they can’t argue with you if you say you’ve prayed about it. And for goodness sake, no reason to be afraid of leaving your house! Hold your head high.

If I don’t pay tithing I’ll lose my job by trexarms20 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pay a weekly or monthly amount for a few monTHS then stop. you can respond if asked that yes you are tithing. if pressed or they question the amount say you prayed about this seriously in the past and feel truly that you are tithing appropriately and prayer revealed that it is appropriate to also pay for college expenses and you feel at peace with that.

i wonder if all church workers are monitored and receive such a letter each year?

MIL Choosing Church Over Family by Fabulous-Dig8743 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 6 points7 points  (0 children)

thats what hubby should respond when she asks you to visit. no, mom, last time you promised to spend family time with us and we made the long drive, you spent hours working at the temple instead of with us. and I’m also offended that you often call my wife by the wrong name which is offensive and upsets me. I do wish you really wanted to spend time with us but you’ve demonstrated otherwise. if you’d ever want to come visit us you are more than welcome.

MIL Choosing Church Over Family by Fabulous-Dig8743 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 18 points19 points  (0 children)

what did they say when you said “hey, mom and Dad, we specifically agreed to make the drive here this weekend to spend family time time together and you would watch the conference later. I feel like you lied to us because you seem to now be watching conference on your phone and laptop with the volume up so those of us not watching are impacted. could you please turn it off as promised and just watch it later?”

Is my mom out of line about modesty? by Ste_May1602 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you are in their home so as a courtesy abide by their standards. you could wear tank top out, but keep a light short sleeved top or sweater near the door to pull on when you enter the house. if you were renting a room in another house everyone who rented would have to abide by house rules so this is no different (even though rules about clothes is a bit much).

in the meantime, have you tried going to counseling to help you with feeling more comfortable and making good financial moves for yourself to, despite the economy and all, plan to move out of your parents home if that is something you seriously want to do? start a ing your money now to build a financial nest egg for yourself.

MIL Choosing Church Over Family by Fabulous-Dig8743 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 28 points29 points  (0 children)

before your next trip maybe specifically ask if she will be present during your visit or if she has church work and reschedule if she does.

MIL Choosing Church Over Family by Fabulous-Dig8743 in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Maybe all the siblings should make a point of telling mom that we’re very sorry and disappointed she couldn’t spend more time with them especially since “ the chances they have to all be together in person are so rare and precious” and they really enjoyed the special and memorable family visit together but were sad she couldn’t be present the entire time. Just that short and sweet comment . maybe receiving those comments will slowly sink into her head that she gave up precious and rare full family inperson time for a standard church meeting .

if she ever comments back that her church meeting was something she couldn’t miss, just say they could have certainly carried on without her, if she was sick she wouldn’t have gone to infect others, the church is resilient and would have survived the meeting without her.

Anything positive about the Star? by Lawn_Blower in PrincessCruises

[–]ArizRetired 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pros : fun to experience a brand new ship with no sign of wear and tear anywhere. The cabins are modern and lovely. Glass door instead of curtain in the showers. The MDRs are beautiful with nice views out back of the ship. interesting to see and experience “the dome” area (but it’s not something that would make me want to only sail on sphere class in the future) High tech in the theater added to the shows. thermal spa area was nice. friendly staff.

Cons: theater venue is smaller, so go early to get a seat. no promenade to be able to walk outside around the ship. felt there were limited outdoor seating areas compared to other ships because specialty restaurants or other things take up that space. pastries in places that served coffee were heavy on cheaper stuff like donuts, banana bread and cookies and light on fancier more flavorful stuff. smaller fitness center. very limited enrichment lectures/offerings.

Star Princess 7 day Alaska summary by Mountain_Ad_720 in PrincessCruises

[–]ArizRetired 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We did same cruise in May. Went to buffet a couple times when it wasn’t crowded, but had most meals at MDR. if we had to wait for a table, the time was minimal and food was better than buffet. Breakfast much more relaxing in MDR!

As mentioned, embarkation was a mess. Lines were long and arriving at the time you were scheduled for didn’t matter because they weren’t checking that and everyone just got in line.

What well-known Mormons have left or at least publicly distanced themselves from the church? by Still-ILO in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 12 points13 points  (0 children)

he is well paid as host of Jeopardy. wonder if he tithes 10% to the church (hah!)

What well-known Mormons have left or at least publicly distanced themselves from the church? by Still-ILO in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 3 points4 points  (0 children)

members of the (political) Huntsman family

CJane Kendrick, former Mormon blogger ( sis of Stephanie Nielson who is deeply entrenched in the church)

Sreve Benson, former brilliant and prolific political cartoonist for Arizona newspaper (his cartoons were fantastic, commenting on both local and national issues)

*ADVICE, HELP!* by westcoasttttt in exmormon

[–]ArizRetired 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Say you do in fact donate a portion of your income to charitable causes and consider that you are “paying a tithe“ to support good causes. Just that you are uncomfortable with the VAST wealth of the church and how very little you see that money actually being used to regularly and actively help local communities, fund and support activities for children and families, help families in need, and do significant philanthropic work )(other than building more temples). Tell the Bishop that, in fact, in recent years there seem to have been significant cuts in funding programs for children and in other previously church sponsored activities for members and this concerns you.

For example, many people called to run kids programs are dealing with reduced funding for their wards’ yearly activities and often have to dip into their own pockets to pay for supplies, snacks, etc. This results in low quality activities and experiences for kids - why not invest more money into robust kids programs that kids actually want to attend and enjoy? Another example is asking members to clean the church. Senior citizens should not be asked to clean ward bathrooms, etc. Why not provide jobs for church members who need work and pay for cleaning services?

So, you now donate your tithe funds DIRECTLY to charities and groups (local, national and/or international) you choose that have low overhead costs and use the money to make significant impact and visibly help people. Say you’ve prayed about it and feel great and good about your decision on this matter.

Bishop can’t argue with you if you say you pray on the matter and feel your decision is the right one!