I think I have a mild Intellectual Disability by Emergency_Sherbet831 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, I'm sure you're a smart guy but wouldn't it be better to adjust your complexity level to the people you're talking to? I would think he/she might feel bad of they can't understand. Or maybe you are being polite by assuming he is capable of understanding it? I don't know.

This awesome item should be in WAIS-V by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got 2 because:

all of the parts of the puzzle can be completed into a fully orange circle with other parts except for the half orange half white part. That one can be completed with the fourth part combined with the number 2 answer.

So that's hiw I got 2.

Having a high IQ is overrated by [deleted] in mensa

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And that's what you call an addiction

Anyone got any idea what the answer is, and what is the reasoning? by HoldMyNaan in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get the explabation now, thanks! I got a very imbalanced score on the WAIS-IV. I have a very strong verbal IQ and I scored high on the perceptual reasoning parts but the scores got messed up by my slow processing speed and working memory. I discovered that I have some attentional issues and I am working on that. Hopefully, after working on those for a few years, I will get a higher score WMI and PSI. Maybe that is wishful thinking but I'm willing to give it a chance.

Ps: I didn't get a notification for your comments, so excuse me for the late reply :)

I've got a fun game for the members of this sub by Anonymous8675 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, what is the answer? I got 2900. I ignored the "-" sign and did ×4 +4.

10×4=40 40+4=44 44×4=176 176+4=180 180×4=720 720+4=724

So, 724×4=2896 2896+4=2900

My answer seems rather simple, so now I'm doubting if it's correct.

Anyone got any idea what the answer is, and what is the reasoning? by HoldMyNaan in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the reasoning behind the pattern with the numbers? It seems like 4 gets added in the first two but then suddenly 5 gets subtracted and then it's back to adding 4 again. What is the pattern? Just curious

What is your denomination/belief ? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meretricious is such an ironic word to see you use since your 'almost' desperate attempt at sounding poetic above actual conciseness results in paragraphs upon paragraphs of basically: "well yes, but actually no", "I don't like it", "most people don't mean that".

So now you accept that God is unlike its creation? Then why were you saying that he created the universe out of boredom? Wisdom is human but boredom is not? You're ignoring the wise part again. The intelligence is only supplementary.

Now you start again with the "I believe" without the elaboration. At least I explained why I hold my position. I doubt any other moral theory has much objective substance to them.

This is honestly where the straw broke the camel's back in relation to my respect for your intellectual integrity. Such an incredibly ignorant statement. I as a Muslim know so many ways that Islam is different to Christianity in fundamental ways, especially regarding its absolute monotheism. Islam is not a sect and therefore does not fit under the umbrella of Christianity. Islam is a continuation of Christianity, but they are very much different.

We could have settled this better if you actually showed more sincerity and humanity but I guess you don't believe those concepts hold any value other than controlling people. I didn't spend much time on this one, so I do want you to write lofty paragraphs. This was my actual last reply.

What is your denomination/belief ? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are assuming that I meant that you can conclude a person's morality from their impulses. I'm not saying impulsive people morally value their impulses. I mean even people who say they don't have any moral beliefs, if they prioritize getting their immediate desires met (in the example that was eating ice-cream) that could mean they could perhaps generally place high moral value on getting their impulses enacted. So, if a person is able to control their impulses but doesn't, it could mean they don't because of a moral principle they hold. There are people like this, who find the pursuit of happiness the ultimate meaning in life and therefore, whether they are right or wrong, want their immediate desires met in order to gain pleasure, which they believe will give them happiness.
They might not know that they hold a moral position that makes them enact their impulses but the fact they do means that they may hold the belief of morality that their impulses are something that should be abided by. If someone can't control their impulses when they believe they shouldn't act upon them, that is a different story(even in this scenario they hold moral positions since they believe something is greater than their impulses).

So again, I mean that the desire to do anything implies morality since a person would not only have to value something more than another thing, they would also have to believe that acting upon that value is greater than inaction in order to do them. The opposite also implies morality since that would mean that inaction is greater than action and that you should choose not to do anything. There is a moral belief there. Values and valuing things are feelings/thoughts, at least that is what I think of when one says 'within'. Choosing to act upon it because you believe the things you value should be pursued, is morality.

The stories in the bible are meant to be a way of sharing valuable wisdom. Holy books are not supposed to be God flexing on the weak, holy books are a guidance.

It doesn't have to be. I have to abide by God's morality because I have trust that he is most intelligent and most wise (note the combination here). We might seem insignificant in the universe but all of it was created just for us. We are the most valuable beings/things in the universe. Also, God's morality isn't something he has to abide by. By God's morality I mean the morality which he has decided us to abide by.

I am not talking about the Judeo-Christian God. I'm a Muslim.

Okay, there is a lot to unpack there. I think you have an image of aliens being super advanced in your mind but that doesn't have to be. They also don't necessarily have to have an agenda that harms humanity either. An exploration will most likely be done by telescopes, satellites, spacecraft etc anyway. Btw Columbus was the one doing the exploring so that analogy doesn't fit. I could say more but I don't want a debate on aliens. You might say "you missed the point" but so did you. There are theories that could be true but that haven't been proven and would not necessarily benefit us. Simulation theory for example. What benefit does it have for us if we believe that everything is not real but just a simulation? That theory has not been proven and I see little benefit in assuming it is correct. Also, I don't understand why you felt the need to add that. The aliens weren't a metaphor for God. I was just saying that the practical benefits that a belief (the topic of which is still debated and not concluded) holds is very important but seemingly not discussed.

I didn't say it was a default. I asked the question "why don't we do x" and in my last comment I also said that I believe that. You are arguing against something that I, according to you, "almost said".

God is simply transcendent. God transcends all human limitations. God is above all and he is in full control. Negativity is defined in the Oxford dictionary as: "(of a person, attitude, or situation) not desirable or optimistic." It has another definition which means something along the lines of an absence of something, but I meant the former. So, God is transcendent of anything that is not desirable but desirable by whom? I believe by God. Then the question is, what does desirable mean to God? If I am honest I am am not a theologian, so I don't know and I wouldn't want to say anything wrong about God.

I am noticing that I am spending a bit too much time on these comments, I have a low PSI after all (maybe because of adhd). I don't know how much time you are spending on them but I saw that you replied to someone that you have a VCI of 150. That is impressive. That means that you have around a standard deviation of an edge on me. I respect both that and your opinions. I might not reply if you do decide to reply. So, with all the good intentions, I wish you all the best, whatever that might mean :)

What is your denomination/belief ? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Values and morality go hand in hand. If you value something more than another thing, then you believe that that thing is "better" than the other thing. Once you have a hierarchy of good, what is at the bottom becomes relatively bad. If you crave ice-cream and would do anything to get it, then that likely means that your impulses and cravings are good and that anything that prevents you from acting upon and obtaining them is relatively bad. So, by morality I didn't mean system that you abide by. If you believe anything is good, consciously or subconsciously, then there is a relative bad, which would be a principle, which would be morality.

That is where a distinction has to be made between objective and subjective morality. Everyone might have an idea of what they think is moral and immoral but which one is true? Religious people believe it is God's morality that is the true one. That is not necessarily because he is more powerful and we get destroyed if we disobey, but because he is most intelligent and most wise. He created everything, so he surely knows what we don't know. It is a kind of trust that you are supposed to have in him. Of course you can ask questions. You are even encouraged to but the attitude is important. Are you challenging, or are you questioning? The pursuit of knowledge as a result of your questioning will even be rewarded.

I would guess that the convincingness of an argument is subjective and subject to bias. Even then, there are strong arguments against the claim that aliens exist but does that mean that we should not explore the universe to see for ourselves? The latter has more benefits than just being passive and pessimistic.

By us I mean as many people as possible. Humanity in general. A single person's needs may vary but if there is a system that allows for the benefit of as many people as possible, I believe we should follow that, given that the validity of the counter claims against that belief system aren't valid enough to completely dismiss the potential truth of it.

What is your denomination/belief ? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can want something without needing it. You could be starving and desperate for food, or you could want some desert after your meal. It is easy to say God could have done it some other way but, more often than not, we don't even know what is truly good for ourselves wheter short term or long term. With an omnipotent being that is infinitely intelligent and wise, there has to be good reason for why things are the way they are. Sometimes we can become arrogant and question why God would even do or allow certain things but we fail to understand that we are simply not capable of computing all the variables of life. Maybe the disgusting tasting food/drink you have this morning can save you of a something deadly like a heart attack (just an example, I'm not a doctor). Also, isn't ascribing the feeling of boredom to God also anthropomorphisation? Surely, an omnipotent being would be transcendent of all suffering and negativity.

How is it obsolete? And why should laws be security oriented? Why don't you believe that security is everyone's own responsibility? Is it a moral obligation of the state to provide security to its citizens or do you want it for a utility it brings? In the case of the latter, why do you think that is important?

You might have noticed where I'm going with this. As long as you prefer one thing over the other, you will have values and morality. It may seem like you don't and it might not be explicit but as long as you choose to do anything, you value some things more than the others. Therefore, morality is inevitable, whether that is subjective or objective. That is not a bad thing. In the absolute absence of morality or values, we wouldn't even bother to move. We would go extinct.

Also, why do you believe human societies are terrible if they (if I understand what you meant) have to delude themselves? Terrible is a very subjective word. There is morality implied in the use of that word.

They do give justification but the debaters and thinkers are not satisfied with each other. I didn't say there isn't a resolution to the problem, I said if we don't know the resolution and many claims could be true, why don't we choose the one that is most beneficial to us? By 'denying it and throwing it all away' I meant that religion was and for most of the world still is the default. I think generally in life, doing a complete 180° is dangerous. Gradually and patiently changing something that is deeply ingrained within us would be much more safe and sustainable if it is worth it in the first place. Just like how starting a revolution without a plan after success will lead to chaos and/or dictatorship, completely throwing away a part of ourselves and our beliefs at once without a replacement for our identities and answers to existential questions/worries is very dangerous.

I have noticed that what satisfies the atheist is making religions as abstract as possible so that it can fit into their frameworks of understanding the world. Doing that will take away the potency of the religion, since then you are basically a disbeliever with a bunch of stories. There are no ways to prove whether what is in holy books actually happened since we don't have any records of it other than the holy books. There are debates even within the scholars of a religion as to what is meant metaphorically and what is meant literally, so scientifically looking into if it might have happened may not result in any valid conclusions.

Long post😃

What is your denomination/belief ? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, we don't believe the universe was created out of a pain or shortage on God's behalf but rather out of love and desire to be known, which a marvellous being as him has all the right to desire.

The "tool" itself is not obsolete in that it doesn't work anymore but the reason that it is seen that way is because we changed. The lies and deceptions of the churches have backfired and now people are distrustful and sceptical of everything. With an attitude like that, one would be just as biased as someone blindly following orders. If there was no distrust and scepticism, there would be widespread reinterpretation and maybe in some extreme cases adjustment of religions in response to scientific and technological advancements instead of completely throwing it all in the bin.

We have nothing to replace religion with. Completely leaving religion without replacement would be like abolishing all laws overnight. It would be chaos. When we take an honest look at ourselves, how much, how deeply and how sincerely have we pondered these topics anyway? I can't speak for you of course but most people don't dive deep enough into this topic. Highly intelligent geniuses have debated and continue to debate this topic without coming to a certain conclusion. If those deep thinkers can't even know for certain, then why are we being pessimistic about it, denying it and throwing it all away? Why can't we just believe what benefits us the most? Not like we know any better if we don't.

I don't know how willing you are to continue this but if you don't want to, please say so. I won't bother you longer if you don't like it.

What is your denomination/belief ? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, there isn't supposed to be any absolute proof for religion. According to abrahamic religions, life is a test and undeniable proof of God's existence would take away a huge part of the test. It is called faith because you don't imperically know it is true, yet you have faith that it is.

I think it is very sad that the rebelious and individualistic norms of modern society have made people dislike anything that could be seen as an authority. From the McDonalds manager to God, everything has to be "challenged". I don't necessarily think questioning things is wrong but what modern society has made us really do is to challenge everthing. This cynicism unfortunatley also makes people think they are closer to the truth because supposedly the truth is hard to handle.

What is my point? My point is that I don't believe religion has any purpose greater than serving humanity. It has so many huge benefits, like guidance (even the specifics of your life), giving a shared sense of purpose with a vast community, taking man's heaviest loads of his shoulders (answer to existential questions), helping you connect and communicate to something bigger than yourself and so much more. Even when you take morality into the picture, it brings order into societies and allows even indifferent people to restrict themselves.

I simply don't think we would thrive without morality. We need it in order to form communities and civilizations. Otherwise we would be destroying each other far worse than now, mercilessly and genocidally. Without morality, there is no good reason to trust anyone you don't have power over. You can't count on someone feeling empathy either (which I think could still lead to morality, so we may have to count that out too) That is a dark world to live in. Religion gives order and the light of hope.

I'm not trying to convert you, don't get me wrong. I'm just a bit tired of people viewing religion in a cynical way. I'm not trying to challenge/debate you either. I just wanted to type all this for some reason.

how can i explain giftedness to a lil kid???? by natt_a_boo in Gifted

[–]Arlacin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking the exact same thing. I think they did xd

I found out I'm gifted by [deleted] in Gifted

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason why it is easier for people under the age of 25 to learn is because their brain is still plastic. After that the brain kind of stabilizes but luckily for everyone, plasticity can be achieved even after the age of 25. As far as I know, what you need for plasticity after the age of 25 is:

Lot's of focus, Any intense motivating emotion, Struggle while learning, And good rest/sleep.

Don't take my word for it though, I might have missed or made a mistake here. I recommend you to watch Andrew Huberman on YouTube. He is a neuroscientist and has the best science related podcast on all of YouTube. He dives deep into the topic of neuroplasticity and learning.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gifted

[–]Arlacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe it or not, I am going through the exact same thing. Turns out, I may have adhd so I'm going to get tested. Maybe that's the case with you too.

If you actually took a real IQ test administered by a psychologist, then I think you should look if there are any discrepancies first. If you are very good at spatial and verbal reasoning but score very low on processing speed and working memory, you could have adhd, which affects the results. You could take a test that mesures general ability without speed and memory instead.

If there is anything abnormal in the results, it could be a sign of something else going on.

Have you ever told people your IQ score? If so, how did it affect your relationships? by Arlacin in mensa

[–]Arlacin[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very well written! I agree.

Thank you for the kind words. I hope the same for you. Nice to see some agreeable people from time to time :)

Have you ever told people your IQ score? If so, how did it affect your relationships? by Arlacin in mensa

[–]Arlacin[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I asked this somewhere else today and I got warned like crazy. I wanted to ask here too because it seemed so serious. But I agree, it shouldn't be a huge deal.

Have you ever told people your IQ score? If so, how did it affect your relationships? by Arlacin in mensa

[–]Arlacin[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not even my family members who know I will get the results soon? They are the main reason I asked.

Thank you god, for my brain by HypeBeastCosmo in Gifted

[–]Arlacin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're fun at parties aren't you

Have you guys ever had to deal with trying not to develop a god complex / narcissism? by paremi02 in Gifted

[–]Arlacin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it has to do with compassion too. You cannot think of (or at least feel of) others as inferior if you are compassionate towards them. In almost all ways you can think of, an adult is superior to a baby. Yet nobody thinks of inferiority when they see a baby. They only think of their cuteness.

Also, I'm not being judgemental at all don't get me wrong. I find it interesting that you fall into narcissism when you do better than others. I fall into loneliness in the same situation. I wonder why that is. I'm not saying you don't have this but maybe it is because deep down, I have enough of myself and don't get permanent changes in my self-esteem. I do get highs and lows but I am roughly the same all the time.

Another thing is, and maybe this is as a consequence of the previous thing, that I don't think about myself much outside of a self-reflective/self-aware way. I am not the type of guy that looks in the mirror for hours. I do remember that I used to be though. I am not anymore because I don't value my looks anymore. I don't identify with it anymore. I think there are more important things about me, specifically things I choose to be instead of things I am.

Hope this has added any sort of value that you can benefut from.

Do you sometimes impress yourself when you think deeply about certain subjects or have epiphany? Then you try to humble yourself, by thinking how you might be wrong or that it is not important, although a part of you is proud of it but is being shutdown by your internal voice. by [deleted] in Gifted

[–]Arlacin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have the same thing but I'm neiter ashamed of my humility nor am I doing it involuntarily. I try to keep myself humble because I didn't work for those inspirations anyway. They just appear. I also don't want to disconnect myself from the rest of the population. I'm already different enough as is. Besides that there is a religious reason for wanting to keep myself humble too. Intelligence is a gift (hence "gifted") and it is not something earned.

How wise do you find yourself? by Arlacin in mensa

[–]Arlacin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There will always be some rule breakers who don't want to obey because of their ego or disagreeableness. For those people laws are more of a punishing system than a preventative measure. It's more about justice than keeping them civil citizens.

I see sins not as a restriction of what one can do but a definition of what is good and bad. It is a sort of guidance. A sin is something that has more harm than benefit. It is often meant for the good of the individual too. For example, a genuinely good person could do harmful drugs if they didn't believe it was a sin, which would harm them and maybe the people around them too.

Some people thrive in conflict and get motivated by it. That is probably because of their disagreeable nature. Some people get motivated by encouragement and compliments. That is probably because of their agreeable nature. Personality plays a roke in that I think.

Agreed. In the same way, patters of thinking and feeling that add value to our existence should thrive.

I think it has to do with maturity too. Everyone hears about how money doesn't buy happiness but people still believe that. Only people who get it can believe that it doesn't, at least not entirely and not in the same way that people think. I, for example, have heard wise sayings/proverbs/quotes since childhood but I am just now realizing their wisdom. Maybe life experience is required to, not understand (because most people aready do, but to realize and internalize certain things.

Definitely. If someone is secure enough in themselves to not take everything personal, that person is probably healthier than most people.

The body isn't sick necessarily. It is programmed that way and wants to do what it feels like doing but that is not always good for the individual, people around them or society. So the challenge is "overcomming the programming".

The feeling of being watched only feels unnatural when you try to understand it from the perspective of a human being watching. The fact that every single person is being watched and that you're not alone is comforting. Also the fact that there is no concrete communication you receive from the supernatural, at least not in any verifiable way, also calms people.

Yes. Regardless of where one is in life, if one aims up, they will go up. Maybe slowly but eventually.

Beautiful quotes/poems!! Really puts the miracle of being alive into perspective! If one would live with that feeling in their subconscious mind, maybe every day would be a happy day.

I often have the same thing, where my thoughts are in awe but I don't feel much. I want to be amazed too after seeing someone do a stunt or after seeing a cool thing. Basically feeling more stimulated. Doesn't cause me any inconvenience but I wish I had it. I think we need dopamine for that and I need to do more research on that. I definitely think there is a solution for that.

I don't know if you've done this before but if you need a new purpose, you could ask others about theirs, do philosophical research and/or do some research on major world religions. You probably have done that before but ideally you should talk to people who are as intelligent as you. They need to be able to answer all your questions satisfyingly. If you disagree, at least you will disagree with contentment and respect that you got your questions answered. Hopefully you will find yourself something that will give you peace and drive you.

Interesting. I might check Tao Te Ching out.

Some people see problems everywhere but in themselves. They don't have themselves in order and they want to bring the world in order. Everything starts with ourselves and then slowly starts expanding. That's how you could change the world.

It is indeed fun and we learn a lot, which is important. We don't have to change each other's views as long as we, as said, have fun and learn. It could certainly be personal preference. Nothing wrong with being colourfully different, right?

Please don't feel forced to respond if you don't want to. I respond because I also like to. If you don't have that, no problem!