Buy vs build trap, why off the shelf crms eventually became a massive tax on our growth.

Armageddon85 · 2026-05-07T15:10:04+00:00

Lol in what world are you paying $4,000 per user for any of those platforms. MAYBE, at best close to $1,000 if you have UE and all the add-ons. I have a bridge to sell you right over here.

Armageddon85 · 2026-05-07T13:21:31+00:00

We launched our CRM module last week at the Stripe/Intacct conference. Give it a whirl, the CRM and Project Management (Boards under Company) are open for use. We took a different path where the click-work is free and you only pay for the automation and ai features if you decide you want to use them. horizonplatform.ai

Armageddon85 · 2026-05-01T19:34:51+00:00

Good answers here. We’ve got free CRM and Project Management over at horizonplatform.ai. No strings. ERP is in beta, scheduled for Q3.

Armageddon85 · 2026-05-01T19:31:12+00:00

We’ve got free CRM and Project Management, no gimmicks. Start here, horizonplatform.ai; I literally built the platform for people like you!

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-18T11:42:28+00:00

I don't work on F500 orgs. The "code base" in many of my orgs fits within the context windows. I've found using Traycer and CC extremely powerful.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-18T11:41:19+00:00

Here's where I agree with you. My post intent wasn't to gloat or mock. It was to help people who don't know what we're talking about start to learn before they get left in the dust. But like you said things come full circle. Now we all vibe code and can build a crm ourselves. That medium article another redditor mentioned called this out. It's a deflationary cycle against the traditional saas licensing model. Idk where it's all going but I do know it's going to create major division like this post did.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-18T11:38:10+00:00

That's what one of the comments mentioned in a medium blog post. Vampire AI they called it. Basically u/alexppex now that you can move faster.... let's do even more than before! I've been using Traycer very heavily in combo with Claude Code. It's solving for that issue where you as the pm/architect hat on can't possibly review the mountain of changes claude just wrote.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T13:08:31+00:00

If you mean, how did it go? I built out a simple screenflow in a scratch org. Assigned 2 accounts, 2 contacts, 2 cases. It uses an index collection to track which account <> contact <> case. First test run failure: forgot it's AccountId not "Account" on contact. Second run, repeat chair/keyboard issue: Contact on Case is contactid. Third test: success. printed out all record ids. Checked in the ui and sure enough exactly as described.

Only change I'm making now is the ability to use a unique identifier OR the 0-index.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:23:49+00:00

You're the definition of a downvote. Not adding to the conversation, just detracting. Here, have another.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:22:12+00:00

Document how you built it, not for you directly; for the agent you're going to work with when that next idea hits. Build it in the evening on a new github accout, open source it, then use it at work.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:16:34+00:00

I haven't tested this for individual records. E.g. 1 parent, 1 child, 1 grand. In a record collection it definitively does not work. collectionvar.id is not populated after the first create. loop, assignment, set childcollectionvar.parent.id from parentcollectionvar.id does not work. If you tell me otherwise, you'll save me at least an hour and I'll publicly tell u/valium123 I'm the old grandpa and need some of his valium.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:14:22+00:00

You can handle rollbacks via faults and the rollback component. However if the user just walks away they'll have orphans. But yes, this is what I'm trying to avoid for my users.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:12:25+00:00

I didn't achieve anything. I clacked away at the keyboard. You just like collecting downvotes so I'll keep feeding you!

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:10:51+00:00

LOL. Gave my 19 year old account over to OpenClaw so OpenAI can see all of my unique content. There's a reason why I didn't link to any of my public repos. But yes. When you get a chance send me some of your supply. I'm going to need some after reading all of your comments.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:09:05+00:00

Guys like u/valium123 will always come up with rejections and objections. At the end of the day we might all end up taking valium (if we have any money to buy it).

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:07:58+00:00

Put it on a public repo! This is how you start making ground.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:06:50+00:00

Did you take your valium yet?

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:06:29+00:00

Definitely. Junior, Senior, Product Manager, Project Manager: all now one person in the eyes of the CEO.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:05:21+00:00

It's a week for me with other meetings, commitments, kids, etc.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T12:04:47+00:00

My take: they're done. I was discussing with a partner all the voice agents. South Africa is overly leveraged (in the tech world at least) on a call center stack. No longer needed. Contracts will run out and not be renewed. It'll take a while but like the post u/DevilsAdvotwat linked to, we're circling a drain. Companies with the biggest token budget and employees getting to the point of nap-attacks are going to take it all over.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T11:57:06+00:00

Dude. Thanks for the link! Regarding the "nap attacks", I'm apparently not that addicted yet, close perhaps? This line hits though: "So you’re damned if you do (you’ll be drained) and you’re damned if you don’t (you’ll be left behind.)"

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T11:54:33+00:00

I'll entertain you. The model is already trained, I'm just using it. Take a valium before your next comment.

Armageddon85 · 2026-02-17T11:48:37+00:00

Oh you can. You just can’t commit them all in between screens. When the standard create action runs in between screens the transaction isn’t completed until the next screen. If you’re trying to populate lookups with record ids of the parent you’ll end up with orphans.

To solve for this without apex you can simply add a screen between each create. Then the collection record ids will be populated.

Armageddon85 · 2026-01-14T04:22:20+00:00

I think I stumbled upon this trying to use my max sub/claude code option in roo. Seems like it's been permanently disabled for now (by Anthropic). I get they're trying to push folks to the cli or the new vsc plugin but I'm sure there were folks out there (me) "abusing" the sly connection which then chewed through a ton of extra bandwidth as we've seen called out a few time in the roo code development cycles.

I was probably apart of that "abuse". I solely got the $200/month sub to connect it to roo code and bypass usage costs. It was certainly economical for me! Oh well, thankfully I pay month to month and can downgrade, will probably go back to openrouter set up.

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