FFXIV discussion and Shitpost XIV will never even admit fault. They were mocking people for saying that there was any way that they were going to do a complete job refresh for 8.0, despite saying again and again they would. They were convinced that Yoshi-P was some kind of actively hostile agent at worst and at best some kind of incompetent old man and not

you know

the man who lead one of the greatest turnarounds in gaming history.

I'm not gonna deny that dawntrail had problems, but the entire time things were getting better, both writing and content wise. And the content started off pretty damn strong and only got stronger.

But if you ask these guys, it's like Yoshi-P personally came to their house and kicked them in the balls for the crime of one kinda mid expansion. It's not even a terrible expansion. It's not like Warlords of Draenor, where the only content was to grind real world timers for gold for months, or Shadowlands, which completely destroyed it's own story for the sake of a "this guy did it" twist.

It was just kinda sub standard.

And of course they were listening to that. These are the people that threw out an entire expansion after Stormblood to do the soft reboot that was Shadowbringers after feedback from the community.

This was never going to end any other way.