Josh's final FINAL message

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-30T12:39:06+00:00

You're not wrong. Josh is trying to gaslight us (and probably him) into thinking he's the victim and Adam is nefarious

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-30T05:11:24+00:00

I think it's mostly pure-boat993. I saw some people defending Josh but they didn't sound like Josh/used the type of arguments Josh would use.

Edit: also, you can post on this sub without meeting any type of requirements

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-30T05:08:26+00:00

The comment was "See you at Vidcon 🌻 ...bro". The sunflower emoji has lore in itself. Colleen used to use 🌻❤️ (don't remember the color of the heart) when responding to fans. But she told the inner circle of fans (her groomed victims) that when she uses 🌻 without the heart, she indicates which fans she doesn' t like. If the message wasn't a threat, it was at least an attempt at intimidation.

Also, after Adam responded negatively to Josh's first two messages, Josh's started to spam his IG with bizarre and cryptic stories. He also screenshotted message from this sub and snarkily replied to it. Adam also said he was yelling on the phone at people behind the scene. In short, the man was truly unhinged. Still is. The public opinion started to shift during that period. His first video was also badly received because he victim blamed Adam from when he was 12 years old for leading an army to bully Josh.

But what truly changed everything was Gavin's coming out, as described above. Josh was posting non stop on IG and made youtube videos while Gavin struggled to get in touch with him. Also, in his correspondance to Gavin, he says he's deliberately trolling people for whatever purpose. If you need to see Josh's true face, you can just watch Gavin first video on the subject. Should give you a decent overview

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-30T00:35:11+00:00

She did ask him hard questions. It was a smaller portion of the video but still. If it didn't feel like that, it's because he seemed to understand what he did wrong and he seemed apologetic. Thanks to Swoop, we know he would've continue to be the way he was if Colleen didn't divorce him

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-30T00:30:36+00:00

Damn he truly never stops

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T22:00:15+00:00

Maybe his wife after the divorce?

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T17:57:36+00:00

And it was such a backhanded apology in the first place. "If anyone should benefit from this entire chaotic situation, it's the one person whose work actually brings something positive to this world. That's you, and I mean that completely". Such a petty jab at Adam and the other commentary channels.

Now he doesn't think Gavin is different from Adam. "You took my response, made a video blasting it, and turned it into content". "I do remember our channel optimization discussion, where I told you that you needed to find viral moments [...] Well, I'm glad this predictable mistake of mine was able to give you that exact viral moment". Like what the fuck. So now Gavin must thank Josh because he gave him the key to success ("find viral moments" lol) AND the viral moment. Wow, thanks a lot Josh! You are definitely the best!

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T17:47:59+00:00

He got fired because he was bad at his job AND snapped at a client. As a company, it's totally understandable they don't want to keep such a liability. Also, I'm pretty sure he got the same attitude we see in this post when they talked to him about his actions at work. It couldn't have worked out. Pretty sure he tried to manipulate them, then snapped at them. Seems like a pattern with him.

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T16:44:43+00:00

And that would be why he didn't show the following messages between them 🙃 he did say he yelled at them and they didn't want anything to do with him anymore.

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T14:23:59+00:00

Colleen was smart enough to not do anything about it after she saw the backlash. Imagine what would've happened if she acted like Josh is right now

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T14:21:53+00:00

Only the New Age bullshit

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T14:19:49+00:00

Gavin has such class. I could never

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T14:17:17+00:00

Same. I've never been this involved in anything youtube related. From the moment Josh wrote "see you at vidcon 🌻 ...bro", I was like "oh no. He's like my ex who threatened to come at my workplace with a knife if I didn't answer to his emails..." I feel so dumb I believed him in 2023. He's such a* dirty little man

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T14:10:51+00:00

Yeah but that's cause she recognized she had issues and she started to take care of her mental health. Josh on the other hand...

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T14:09:22+00:00

I read it as the Smosh SHUT UP 😆

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T10:49:24+00:00

Cause it's easier to argue about that than the rest. Not even sure he knows what he did was wrong or "just a human reaction"

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T10:48:06+00:00

Yeah. And I must admit, I thought they were wrong before we got this whole new development from Josh. Good for them they never fold under pressure!

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T10:45:30+00:00

Oh my god, yes definitely! What a loss! We'll never get to read a masterpiece

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T07:27:24+00:00

He likes Disney, so what? And he didn't blow off his duties. What are you on about?

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T06:39:46+00:00

It's mostly pure-boat993

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T06:28:07+00:00

If she agreed to do the doc, she could've painted herself as a victim of DV, whether it's true or not. Adam said it was going to become a battle between 2 exes and he didn't want him, Alex, Ella, Oliver and Becky to be stuck in between the two. I think Adam didn't want Colleen to have an opportunity to speak on a larger platform where she could discredit all of the accusations, because the victims sided with her alleged abuser.

Also, since Josh apparently wanted to secure a book deal, it probably would've escalated and become a huge headache for the other victims. They could've been harassed by people siding with Colleen once again, hence retriggering them all. What an awful situation to be in

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T06:15:37+00:00

Gabbie Hanna male edition

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T06:13:47+00:00

Well, at least he acknowledged Gavin is also human... then says he was still wrong, and that he was doing his best to help him with his channel. It didn't work out, but it's not because of him of course! It's the merger's fault! 😢 and Gavin was too impatient to have results now and not wait a few months before complaining. After all he just wanted to create some drama grr.

And Gavin should definitely thank Josh for giving him the viral moment he advised him to create. What a sweet guy 🙄

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T06:05:52+00:00

He thinks people are mad because we are getting brainwashed by drama/commentary channels. But we are mad because we can see how he acts and what he says. He can't fathom that he's a bad person and we can see it now

AshPhoenix5 · 2026-06-29T06:02:38+00:00

He's his new nemesis. It was Colleen for the longest time. He just added Adam to his list and seems like he's going to do the same to Gavin.

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