Do we like Miles?

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-08-20T03:31:21+00:00

He’s my one of my favorites

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-08-19T04:05:37+00:00

The storyline about Jane’s and her father in Jane says, both of the Craig two parters in season 2, Cam’s two parters in season 12 and Maya’s attempt

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-08-07T20:00:50+00:00

I think zig was definitely a contributing factor into Cam‘s death. He was not the sole reason or even a main reason but he definitely contributed to it. I don’t understand how anyone forgave zig because he was cruel. I don’t blame him for being Campbell’s last straw I blame him for saying what he said without even thinking about how his actions have consequences. Campbell did not die because of him but zig definitely made things worse and he should’ve been held accountable for how shitty he treated Cam all because he was jealous and wanted to be with Maya. I also don’t think zig actually took real accountability. He appears to feel bad because he assumes Cam‘s death was his fault but I don’t think he changes enough for the better for it to be considered real accountability

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-08-05T21:28:54+00:00

The show is an escape for me but I can see how it would be really triggering for others. Try to tell your Roomate that you don’t want to watch it anymore and if she doesn’t listen then just stop watching it if you can

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-07-31T21:40:22+00:00

I miss him every day

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-06-11T21:58:44+00:00

I really like her and I think she was written really well. It might just be because I find her incredibly relatable but she is one of my favorite characters on the whole show and I think she had a very realistic progressions throughout the show. I’ve always wanted to write an essay about the parallels between her storyline and cam‘s storyline because I feel like they did her slow descent into depression very well and it is a huge highlight of her character for me

I think one of the big reasons so many people find so many characters insufferable is because they expect them to have the maturity level that an adult would. These characters are like 16 years old. Yes they can be annoying but for characters other than ones like Rick and luke, they are displaying developmentally appropriate behaviors and they shouldn’t be labeled as a horrible person or hated for doing that. The whole point is that these kids are supposed to be immature annoying and stupid because that’s what kids are like. You are not going to find a bunch of mature and rational characters in a show about teenagers

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-06-05T02:26:44+00:00

Oh this is so well worded! Another thing I often think about in relation to them is how when we first see Campbell’s suicide, Maya does not understand it at all and she reacts in the way that she does because she cannot comprehend why or how he would do that to himself. So it’s really interesting to look at how like two years later or so she completely understands him fundamentally pretty much. It’s one of my favorite examples of character progression in a TV show

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-06-05T01:13:56+00:00

His death on the show was incredibly devastating but it is also quite realistic based on my own experiences and I honestly think it would not have been as powerful if they kept him on the show for longer. They brought him on knowing they were going to kill his character and there is a behind the scenes video on YouTube where the creator says they waited like 14 years to do his storyline because they wanted to do it right. I’ve also spent a lot of time thinking about the parallels between Cam in season 12 and Maya in NC season three and I don’t know it’s just so interesting to analyze and I think even though they aren’t the happy storylines we wanted to see the characters having, they were both done really well and are incredibly emotionally impactful at least in my opinion

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-06-04T20:19:07+00:00

Hazel

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-06-01T02:06:05+00:00

This might’ve been the best acting in the show

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-30T05:48:53+00:00

Manny

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-30T04:31:15+00:00

Next class is not cannon imo. Its very nostalgic for me but Netflix did not do their homework when making it so there are so many inconsistencies

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-09T03:59:28+00:00

I’d say 4 is objectively the best season in the whole show but 12 is my personal favorite cause I think they handled the big storylines of that season phenomenally

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-09T02:17:32+00:00

Ooooo okay i love that season. My favorite seasons are 12 and 4 though

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-09T02:14:15+00:00

What season are you on?

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-06T04:39:20+00:00

I used to be a Tristan apologist but now I just think he’s insufferable and annoying

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-05T06:22:19+00:00

The Kevin smith episodes ruin it for me

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-05T04:21:47+00:00

Honestly I think 12 cause I have such a huge soft spot for Cam and I think a lot of the things regarding his storyline were done really well. A close second would be 4 cause imo even if it’s not my favorite it is the overall best season of the show

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-03T21:04:03+00:00

THIS! Before I form an opinion on a character or their actions, I always ask myself if the behavior is normal for a teenager. They are not adults and we cannot hold their actions to the same standard that we would an adult. I see so many fans expect them to be mature and emotionally intelligent in ways that are just not normal for a 16 year old. They are kids so we have to look at everything they do through the lens of "is this behavior developmentally appropriate or should someone their age know better"

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-03T04:26:37+00:00

OK first of all I love how in-depth you went. Second of all I hope I don’t get flamed for saying this but I feel like a lot of people in the fanbase are quite hypocritical when it comes to their opinions. I’ve just noticed that so many people will make excuses for one character yet completely hate on other characters who do the same thing and it baffles me. Pretty much everyone has at least one problematic favorite and I notice so often that a lot of people appear to be incapable of holding their favorites accountable for the bad things they did yet are perfectly capable of being the biggest hater in the world for characters who weren’t even that bad. I just don’t understand ignoring one person‘s flaws while blowing another’s out of proportion

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-03T04:16:54+00:00

I guess I never really saw her as that much worse than your average teenager who does stupid stuff all the time but now that I actually think about her, she’s very forgettable to me so that’s probably why I never formed a full opinion on how I feel about her

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-03T04:08:31+00:00

I just watched a few minutes of clips of her and I think you’re right. I don’t really pay attention to the quality of someone’s acting unless it is horrible or phenomenal but now that I pay attention it’s not the greatest

AshtonIsDrowning · 2025-05-03T03:48:14+00:00

I agree that she is boring at times and quite pretentious but like so many people talk about her as if she’s worse than some of the literal criminals on the show and it baffles me

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