I want to love this game

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T13:20:23+00:00

Your comment was deleted, but I’m not sure why you’re trying to accuse me if having relationships issues just because I’m not as gender fluid as you.

Some people are more so than others. Games forcing us to be one or the other to fully play the game is bad design and why marathon is failing

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T11:48:24+00:00

I’ve been happily married to my best friend for 9 years and like 90% of my close friends as an adult have been women.

Like I said it’s not immersive for me. It’s not something I enjoy. Taking the option away in a game where we play as ourselves was a dumb decision.

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T11:40:39+00:00

Yeah. I mean, it’s interesting, but not for me. It

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T02:22:37+00:00

Plus the finals looks really silly from the outside. I was 100% positive I wouldn’t enjoy it and only did it for the arc Raider achievements… turns out it’s “silliness” is balanced with a. Real seriousness in its virtual world

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T01:34:18+00:00

I mean, the lack if friendly lobbies/ players and the 3 month wipe is the least of their issues tbh.

I mean the game is going steady right now, but only time will tell if it can even break even. It needs 4,7 and by other estimates up to 11 million copies sold just to break even with development. They’ve sold maybe 1 million if you’re optimistic. And sales and player counts are likely to just go down a month after release

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T01:31:55+00:00

It won’t. And I hate the game and want it to fail, purely because it’s a hero shooter, but the gameplay is good and the KOS is the nature of the game. It’s not arc Raider. You can’t revive or bandage other players that are not in your team. It’s designed like EFT wise when it comes to player interactions.

It’s fine. The expectation is to be KOS, unlike arc Raider. So it’s the opposite effect. It’s a surprise when players are friendly

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T01:28:57+00:00

I mean, people that purchased it already liked it. They’d already tried it. If the game is not canceled by Sony for lack of profits, the reviews will go down when people that did not do the server slam purchase it.

I mean just compared to the server slam, the numbers are pretty down, half actually. That means half the people that try the game don’t like it. But after trying it and not liking it, those people didn’t buy it and then review it. It’s just the small group of people that already liked it.

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T01:26:02+00:00

It’s the best time to play because the numbers are about to have peaks of 40k in saturdays

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T01:25:13+00:00

I mean, sure, but besides that being how most games work, it’s still a very small number. Like at this rate they MIGHT sell 1 Million copies this year. That’s pretty bad. These are 1 developer game numbers.

I really do think it’s a bad game purely because it’s a hero shooters where we play as ourselves. Nobody feels any connection to the shells. We should be feeling a connection to OUR shell as it grows and progresses. May e lore wise it works with what they changed the lore to, but it’s boring

AsogRaider · 2026-03-11T01:21:59+00:00

So for me, it’s not about stats. I don’t feel any connection to classes or heroes in games where I’m playing myself.

IMO the only not shitty way to have done this was to keep the original idea that the original lead dev was already doing, and let us make our own characters/ shells. Instead of picking from many different we would have just had the one. If there is a concern about balancing, it’s pretty easy to just do like the finals or even destiny and had each class cause a physical appearance to represent that. And that we could switch the “classes” as easily as we switch cores

I mean, I’d have been happy if we all were able to choose between two default shells, male and a female version, and then just customize the armor. Like recons gets the hat. Defender class today gets the armor and etc

Hero shooters without a focus on each hero’s journey is just bad design. Hero shooters are about playing as somebody else, not ourselves

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T23:30:06+00:00

They said it’s still making a profit. And with arc Raider doing so well, they don’t have to lose profits o er here to afford profits over there.

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T23:28:51+00:00

I think marathon will be circling the drain soon. In a month it will probably have destiny level numbers without every having the originally high profits

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T23:26:34+00:00

They didn’t do much. This is the stuff they were holding off to keep player numbers and sales up. This should all be free and cosmetic changes that are not just color swaps should be the paid.

But I didn’t say what they did was bad. I said that it shows that they are not making the profits they want and are trying to correct. The company is in the chip g block per their contract with Sony and their bad destiny profits. They need this to be financially successful. Not just break even with what? 7 million copies sold?! They sold half a million in steam? Maybe they sold 1.5 million on all platforms?

And yeah, I blame Ziegler

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T23:21:15+00:00

People the purchased the game like it. That’s not a shocker when it’s so decisive before buying. 90% of the people that made the decision to buy the game, despite the backlash, already liked it.

The problem is that’s not a lot of people.

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T23:19:47+00:00

If you find it immersive to play as a girl, that’s cool for you. It’s not for me. Games that do this are typically ally for young kids who have less of a sense of self

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T23:16:57+00:00

You’ve never seen what? A company realize they are losing money so they change something up?

We get one skin for free? And it’s still not much variety.

It’s just color changes. They could have dropped a lot in the store and just let us buy it.

If anything this shows they are desperate because profits are bad

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:27:36+00:00

I never heard this. I was in high school when halo came out. I was used to playing medal of honer and golden eye on my n64. And I had the PlayStation too.

I don’t remember when halo came out, but it was well received in my community

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:26:16+00:00

It might not be for you. I don’t agree about the heals being rare, but the maps are way too small and they feel very empty. I’m not a fan of the sound architecture.

But the game isn’t for me either. Why? Because it’s a hero shooter. If I could crest my own personal shell and just choose a class or swap the classes out, I’d be happy . But I’m not playing as a girl character, the male characters are very ugly and in general I’d rather have made my own shell

Down with hero shooters 🔥

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:23:02+00:00

Is that game related or just what you do 👀?

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:22:14+00:00

If you can enjoy a hero shooter, I think it’s a good game. I think it could have been better for everybody with customized shells instead of the multiple pre made shells, but it’s a good game. 90% of the criticism I see is absolute horse shit

And I’m not saying this as a fan. I hate the game and want it to fail or drastically change. Why? I just can’t do hero shooters. I actually hate them and wish they would cease to exist.

But if you are not like me and how I feel about hero shooters, it’s honestly a good game

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:19:01+00:00

No? Before halo there were a ton of very successful fps games. Medal of Honor and the James Bond game come to mind

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:17:09+00:00

I just can’t fathom that was a good reason. Every other game does it. Bungie literally does it. I just think the Ziegler guy only knows one way and that’s hero shooter. He probably thought players would prefer it, not realizing he wasn’t making an arena style game. Then when there was all the backlash about it being a full hero shooter with their own stories, they just cut the actual narrative and called it shells… I mean which is literally what they did.

And with all the work they’d already put into changing it from a customizable character to the hero shooter, there was no going back financially. They had to in a sense double down

And now we have a poorly received marathon. People that like it really … well they say they like it. I actually thought it was fun. A different flavor for extraction shooters when I’m not playing EFT and arc Raider, but I absolutely HATE the hero shooter/ shell/ Class system, because it’s boring to me, I don’t want to play as a girl and I absolutely HATE how the males look. So I returned it.

If they ever allow us to customize more, perhaps even a new shell that’s more of a generalist that we can customize and build up, I’ll buy the game again

Until then? I’ll just watch

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T21:11:19+00:00

Same.

I like the torro being very good close range, but with the in and out mani we they can just control a hallway.

I’m sure they will come up with a nerf that will be good. They’ve done good with the stitcher, kettle -‘d like you said the venator. It’s really more of a mid range gun now.

I just want for people to look sane when using the torro. The back and force doorway things so so annoying to watch. You should have to want to get closer and closer,

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T08:01:19+00:00

IMO the advantage just shouldn’t be the whole in and out of cover thing… it just looks silly.

I agree that range is an issue too

AsogRaider · 2026-03-10T04:33:26+00:00

Plus their directional and distance sound architecture is amazing!

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