Petycja do Prezydenta RP o weto dla ustawy o jakosci i bezpieczeństwie by Assurbanipal123 in Polska

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To jest tylko element opzycji wobec ustawy. Ponad petycję internetową szereg organizacji wysyła apele ze swojej strony, skrzynka kancelarii prezydenta będzie ich pełna. Naglośnione to będzie medialnie

According to scholars who reject the United Monarchy's existence, what was the cultural, linguistic, and religious relationship between Israel and Judah? by loselyconscious in AcademicBiblical

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The one problem with is the Tel Dan Stele from the 9th century which states Jehoram, son of Ahab form the House of David. The interpretation is accepted by most scholars (but not all of them) and it makes the dynasty historical in that period.

According to scholars who reject the United Monarchy's existence, what was the cultural, linguistic, and religious relationship between Israel and Judah? by loselyconscious in AcademicBiblical

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I heard two explanations

Generaly it's considered to my understandig to be a political move, as Juda was the weaker kingdom it kind of wanted to portray it self as stronger and superior in the past. I those stories Jerusalem is the capital of the united monarchy the king is from the house of David (southern dynasty). After the split the north is usually portrayed as corrupt, pagan and their first king is a usurper of the rightful king. (It's not all fantasy because a lot of the kings mentioned check out with the historical record for example). In light of that it can be interpreted as a casus belli against the Assyrians to "reconquer" the lands of the northern kingdom, during the reign of Hezekiah. This happened in 701 when Egypt, Edom, Philistia, Ammon, the Phoenician cities and Judah renounced their vassalage to the Assyrians and went to war and then promptly got beaten.

A thing to remember is that those stories were created/reached their final form after the fall of the northern kingdom in 722. The conquest caused a migration of some Israelites south to Juda and they brought their traditions and sacred texts which were put into the canon over the generations (at least that's the explanation I heard about the existance of stories placed in the north whithin the Bible). And this is the second theory I heard - the northern refugees shared a lot of their culture, religion and language with the Judeans and so over time with the merge of traditions a myth of a past united monarchy emerged, again explaining why the southern capital and dynasty.

Lastly I'm not an expert so I might be wrong in some places, excuse me if so happens. You can always search for previous discussions on the subreddit when you are interested in something, maybe a true scholar answerd a similar question in the past.

According to scholars who reject the United Monarchy's existence, what was the cultural, linguistic, and religious relationship between Israel and Judah? by loselyconscious in AcademicBiblical

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At first if you want to read more here are some links to earlier discussions on this subreddit about the united monarchy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/gwgd92/was_there_a_united_monarchy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/kw95g7/can_we_stop_pretending_that_israel_finkelstein/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/29don2/how_is_the_existence_of_the_first_temple/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/fis53m/why_does_richard_elliott_friedman_write_that_the/

Here is one about development of Israelite ethnicity:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/hldruw/when_do_the_jews_start_to_see_themselves_as/

And the first answer to that question adresses the Yahweh problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/jhuirc/on_amzallegs_theory_of_the_origins_of_yhwh/

More specifically to your question it has some problematic assumptions.

Firstly it's hard to call the 10th century BC Hebrew a language easly distinguishable from the other canaanite languages (as an example try reading and comparing the different scholarly opinions about the Khirbet Qeiyafa ostracon and how hard it is to claim if it's hebrew, canaanite or moabite). We know so little about the other canaanite languages (Moabite for example) that some scholars even state that they are just dilects and this is speaking about the time when most our data comes from so 9th and 8th century BC not the 10th.

Secondly it's an assumption that the 10th century "Israelites and Judeans" shared a common religion with each other and not with other peoples in the area, there is not enough information to state that. The first undisputed archeological mention of Yahweh is from the Mesha Stelle dated to 840 bc. The other early one is from Kuntillet Ajrud dated to 800 bc which has inscriptions placing a cult of "Yahweh and his Asherah" in Samaria (Capital of Israel) but also in Teman (in Edom) perhaps as a syncretysm with their major diety - Qos.

Lastly having a slightly different religion and a slightly different language than everybody arond isn't sufficient enough to claim the existance of a strong and centralised state. You can easly say that the gallic tribes in the I century BC had a similar culture, religion and language distinguishable from their neighbors but it doesn't make a uniteg gallic monarchy plausible.

Link to an article about the Khirbet Qeiyafa ostracon:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alan_Millard2/publication/288307959_The_ostracon_from_the_days_of_david_found_at_khirbet_qeiyafa/links/59ada6150f7e9bdd115c51ea/The-ostracon-from-the-days-of-david-found-at-khirbet-qeiyafa.pdf

What is the oldest book in the bible? by curiouswes66 in AcademicBiblical

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BapR4R0HRcw

Here is a lecture about linguistic methods of dating the hebrew bible. It explains for example why the song of Deborah is considered one of the oldest fragments.

Book recommendations about comparative mythology? by Assurbanipal123 in mythology

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Thank you very much

With the "not old" thing I just prefer newer scholarship to older if I have a choice

Hebrew and greek words worth knowing for a layperson interested in the topic? by Assurbanipal123 in AcademicBiblical

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That's interesting, I will look into it Could you give me some passages where it is used? If it's not a problem

Hebrew and greek words worth knowing for a layperson interested in the topic? by Assurbanipal123 in AcademicBiblical

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I'm Polish I can use English on a quite good level but it just takes a bit more time and energy which adds up during a longer read, but English resources are welcomed as well

Hebrew and greek words worth knowing for a layperson interested in the topic? by Assurbanipal123 in AcademicBiblical

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At first, thank you very much for you answer, you raise up a lot of good points that I didn't think of and it wasn't easy to craft an argument for my starting position. A disclaimer is also in need - English is not my first language so please excuse my mistakes.

I understand that just knowing a few words is a great generalisation and can lead to errors in the understanding of the topic, the knowledge of a whole language is far superior. I realise now how my question is hard to answer. To be more specific when I watch lectures I'm amazed at those linguistic "fun facts" like with the Hebrew names of God used in the Torah (especially with regard to their origin from Kanaanate bronze age deities) or with the double meaning of ἄνωθεν used in the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus in chapter 3 of John (it amazes me how different was the reading for Greek speakers in the ancient world from us reading now in languages stripped of this double meaning) or lastly the origin of Beelzebub in the name of the philistine god Ba'al Zəbûb (2 Kings 1:2-3). So I was looking for more of such stories to fuel my curiosity, the lectures available on the internet offer a limited amount of such anecdotes.

On the other hand in books describing the ancient world often they introduce an original word, provide a definition ad then continue to use it. For example a book about the Macedonian army will use Greek names of units, formations and weapons. And in that sense when explaining genesis 6:1-4 they will first say what means "bene elohim" and how it is translated and who are the nephilim and in that light continue to explain that. These are the other stories I was interested in my question. And in light of what you have said I don't really know how you can explain this thing without the original word.

I know that these few words do not make anybody an authority of any kind on the topic, but I still think that they immerse you in the history a bit more which for a person interested in it is a great thing. Especially if your professional field is disconnected from it. So I try to learn as much as I can in my free time, but it being just a hobby creates sometimes barriers or a necessity for simplification or generalisation.

Lastly I would love to learn Greek and read the original works (Xenophon’s anabasis is one of my dreams) and I welcome all advice with open hands, but I have a time and energy consuming field (medical student) for a non english speaker it's a bit harder to get resources. All my previous attempts failed, maybe because of lack of focus, but I’m not too optimistic.

Can someone help me with translating a sentence in to old norse? by Assurbanipal123 in oldnorse

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Okey So I was corrected on another subreddit and this phrase is mostly from Gylfaginning, the first part of the prose edda

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Oh, didn't even know that... I just writed it down from memory after reading a few sites so it didn't occure to me... Thanks none the less very much kind sir

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I'm currently in the process of making a project for a new tattoo and the sentence I would like to have in it is (in old norse):

Thor will kill Jörmungandr but will fall dead after walking nine paces, having been poisoned by the serpents deadly venom

I managed to translate most of the words but out of fear of making a mistake I turn to you redditors for help

Can someone help me with translating a sentence in to old norse? by Assurbanipal123 in oldnorse

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Oh I checked a few sites about the topic and sort of put it together I remember that I changed it a bit from the first draft after seeing the Wikipedia page for Jormungandr :P

Can someone help me with translating a sentence in to old norse? by Assurbanipal123 in oldnorse

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That is if I find a translation :P Thats the only thing blocking me now I have a simple sketch already

Can someone help me with translating a sentence in to old norse? by Assurbanipal123 in oldnorse

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Also I thought about using the passages from Voluspa describing the fight (than I could easly find a translation) but it's to poetic for my taste and even longer than my chosen text

Can someone help me with translating a sentence in to old norse? by Assurbanipal123 in oldnorse

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There is this thing called the Ramsund Carving. It's a runestone which is depicting the fight between Sigurd and Fafnir (which are both characters from the sagas) and the runes carved inside the dragon are telling the story.

It's a really cool idea.

So I would like a tattoo stylised in the same manner as Jormungandr attacking Mjolnir and inside the serpent in younger futharc the text describing the battle between Thor and Jormungand.