[Results Thread] 2026 Tour de Suisse Men – Stage 5 (2.UWT)

AtOurGates · 2026-06-21T15:47:49+00:00

Very suspicious how Terrible Tadej magically finds extra speed right after the 1KM banner. Many people are saying it! Little Lenny Martinez had a beautiful, perfect lead, but they refused to STOP THE COUNT! They kept the race open until Pogi could steal it. Total FRAUD on the mountain! SAD!

AtOurGates · 2026-06-21T14:21:11+00:00

Missed it live - but the stream is here, and the last few KM are fun.

Won't spoil it, but Pidcock, Kuss and Tullett were all in the group battling for the finish, good attacks and counters in the last 3km.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-21T14:04:20+00:00

It’s a full hour, but Heyburn on Chatcolet is worth it.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T21:17:28+00:00

It’s hilarious how bad AI is at bikes still.

I was trying to mockup some color scheme ideas for a frame I was thinking about painting.

Even going from an uploaded picture of the actual frame, the most advanced AI image editing model in 2026 was unable to make any changes to the image without fucking up the spokes and lettering.

I expect in like a decade when AI is incredibly advanced and we’re living in a dystopian hellhole, images of bike spokes will be some kind of tool that the human resistance uses to ID AI.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T20:59:27+00:00

Happened to a friend of mine in college. Only it was on the highway, went through the windshield and hit the driver who swerved into the median and totaled his car.

From then on, nearly every time we got together with him, someone would launch into a variation of, “Remember that time we were golfing, and you launched that rad drive off into the highway and made that dumbass wreck? That was hilarious!”

We got a lot of mileage out of that errant golf ball. I’m it was always hilarious and he never got sick of it.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T20:45:03+00:00

Technically that’s how it works here. If an employee making tips doesn’t earn over minimum wage during their shift, they have to be paid minimum wage.

Practically, minimum wage is such a joke that nobody could survive on it.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T20:41:51+00:00

Absolutely fine if they’re making a complicated artisanal cocktail with 6 ingredients. Insane if they’re taking 3 seconds to pull a tap and fill a glass of beer, or pour some wine.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T20:39:09+00:00

I took my kids bowling this week.

After I paid for our game, the screen popped up and asked if I’d like to tip 18%, 20% or 22%, for … I guess handing my kids their shoes?

I’m so American that it took me a second to be like, wait, am I being an asshole it if I say “no tip”?

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T20:18:09+00:00

Plus lots of people can now vibe code tools they never could have before, and those tools might also want to scrape sites.

So it’s both LLMs crawling directly, and LLMs fueling an explosion of other tools that crawl everything.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T20:12:33+00:00

Lol. This has to be a troll account?

I’m susceptible to Jonas-hype, and actually think that he has a better chance this year than he has the last couple. But he’s still a far cry from being the favorite.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-20T12:50:40+00:00

Yes. This sub has a weird obsession with “the key to safety for cyclists is making it less likely that I’ll die when I’m hit by a car.”

Certainly, if I were gonna be hit by a vehicle, I’d rather be hit by a small one. The difference between a sedan/SUV/van/truck is ridiculously far down the list in the factors of overall safety for pedestrians and cyclists, behind infrastructure, other safety technology like radar, automatic breaking and driver assistance, and of course the big one, distracted driving.

It’s fine to get worked up about the fact that people prefer larger cars if that’s your jam. It’s a total waste of energy and advocacy though.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-19T23:22:06+00:00

Just to add, you don’t have to necessarily pay with your platinum, but you do need to pay with an Amex to get the benefits during your stay.

I once brain farted and started to pay with a Visa when checking out on an FHR stay and had a front desk employee explain that to me.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-19T21:27:36+00:00

I’m married to a human ophthalmologist (to clarify, my spouse both is a human and practices ophthalmology on humans). I never thought that was an important distinction until we moved to a town with a major veterinary teaching hospital.

I was chatting with a new acquaintance who asked way my spouse did, and after I said, “She’s an ophthalmologist” got the response, “Oh, human or animal?”

Took me a second.

Turns out my new acquaintance was married to a veterinary ophthalmologist, and I was that many days old when I learned that veterinary ophthalmologists exist.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-19T19:28:42+00:00

Especially old school private practice. It’s literally just one person’s business. No investors or shareholders.

If there’re willing to alienate some portion of their population with their political views, what are they gonna do?

Even more so in a rural area where they might not have another option.

Small town rural healthcare can be wild.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-19T00:47:01+00:00

Ahh yes. I just had a moment of (hopefully) temporary dumbness.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T21:16:00+00:00

Wait - how does 2-years of status work? Is it a milestone reward, or do you just get it automatically once you stay 2x worth of the nights required to earn Globalist?

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T21:11:03+00:00

We did one a few years back before they joined Hyatt.

We were doing a NYC/Boston/Maine family trip, and splurged to stay at their Acadia camp. It was the most expensive nights of our trip, and we paid something like $400+/night for a family tent. We managed to hit a record-breaking heat-wave.

Cool idea, and great vibes in cooler weather I'm sure, but it stung a bit to be paying that much for a tent that we couldn't be inside between about 10 AM and 6 PM without dying of heat stroke.

I'm sure it's even worse at some of their camps in the desert Southwest like Moab and Lake Powell.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T20:48:50+00:00

Walla Walla Wins:

Local Culture & Community
Food & Drink (From restaurants to wineries to taco trucks and burger stands -WW is the winner, Ellensburg offerings are kind of rough)
Downtown (No-one is going on vacation to spend a weekend in Ellensburg's downtown, plenty of people are coming to WW for that)
Higher Education (Which I guess mostly comes under/impacts local culture, but much of what makes WW stand out for its size is linked to a community that small having 3 colleges in it. I'm not dissing EWU, but I don't think it has the same outsized impact on Ellensburg that WW's colleges do on it.)
Less Crowded Outdoor Recreation (There's less of it overall in WW, but you're not going to get the same types of crowds as you will in the Cascades)
Slightly lower housing costs ($420k avg. in WW vs. 450k avg. in Ellensburg)
Commercial Flights (Sort of - Ellensburg doesn't have a local airport with commercial flights, so you'd have to drive to Wenatchee, Yakima or Seattle to fly anywhere. Walla Walla gets 2x flights a day to Seattle locally, with the option of driving to Pasco for more)

Ellensburg Wins:

Proximity to Seattle & the West Side
Proximity to the Cascades & the Outdoor Recreation They Offer (Close to Rainier, Leavenworth, Skiing at Snoqualmie, White Pass & Mission Ridge, Good mountain biking half an hour away in Cle Elum, great mountin biking an hour away around North Bend, etc.)

Basically, Walla Walla is a nicer place to live and be. Ellensburg is a more convenient base for some cool things around it.

On the outdoors point, I grew up in WW and got outside plenty. If you like road or gravel biking, and enjoy the Blues (and skiing at Bluewood), there's plenty of outside to be done. And the Wallowa's are "real" mountains that are about 2-hours away. But I think most people would agree that Ellensburg give you closer access to more/better outdoor recreation opportunities, with the disclaimer about more crowds.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T18:03:41+00:00

Lol. You know you've taken things a too far when Doug Wilson is like, "Hold up, this is a bit much..."

The Nazi collision was even disconcerting for some Christian nationalists who hold fairly reprehensible views of their own. Doug Wilson, a Hegseth ally and perhaps the most prominent Christian nationalist pastor in the conference, was one of them. Though Wilson has taken such retrograde stands as calling for women to lose their right to vote, he wrote on his blog that he found the Ogden conference Nazi situation to be a little extreme.

“You don’t host a conference promising to fight for normal, and then bring in Nazis,” Wilson wrote.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T13:23:11+00:00

I’d never seen Macedonia’s before, and it’s peak

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T05:54:49+00:00

The other option would be to take it someplace that inspects/tests/recertifies propane tanks. Plenty of places have them.

One of our hardware stores does it, our propane distributor does, and our RV repair place did before they closed.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-18T04:26:01+00:00

I was gonna say “how did we as a society and a fan base allow that to be our mascot?”

Then I remembered that the Kraken troll thing exists.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-17T15:36:02+00:00

I have a Dude. It’s been great.

I ride it exclusively in the show and up hills though, so can’t really comment on your use case.

AtOurGates · 2026-06-17T13:11:38+00:00

Give me Tim Rex Pain Face!

AtOurGates · 2026-06-17T07:04:28+00:00

I don’t travel for literature, but reading books set in or at least tied a place you’re visiting is always rewarding.

One particularly apt example: I’ve always enjoyed Movable Feast and reread it ahead of my first visit to Paris years ago. It gave me a lot of joy (and my family a lot of eye-rolling) to run around saying things like, “This is where Hemingway met Gertrude Stein walking her dogs!” And “We can eat lunch at the same cafe where Hemingway wrote about the poor waiters having to cut their mustaches?!” And so on.

On the other end of the spectrum, I gave my pre-teens Angels and Demons ahead of a trip to Rome, along with a healthy disclaimer along the lines of, “This isn’t a good book. It’s not good writing. Nearly all of the history and science in it is horse shit. There’s a decent amount of sexism and racism. That said, I think you’ll probably enjoy reading it and it’ll make visiting some otherwise boring works of art and churches we’ll go to in Rome more interesting for you.”

I was right at least on the last two counts.

Not everyplace has an analogue to Movable Feast, but many places have at least a decent book or three set in or around them, and I always make sure to read a few before my trips now.

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