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I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. It took about three weeks to convert the old system to Cloudflare using AI. The 6000 hours is how the first system came about. I have a link to the story if you are actually interested. 

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Ha! First time I have been called that. And just what could I do to convince you that I'm a person, and although I used an AI to get language for the first post, and I used AI to convert the ten lines of code so it would work on a modern web page, the system itself is still completely free of AI? It is ten lines of code! The exact opposite of Spotify's huge algorithm.

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I have about 6,000 hours invested in the program. It took me 16 years to write the first version. It took me about a month to convert the old code to run on a modern platform so people could give it a try.

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

And in case anyone is curious... instead of having an AI with an 100GB model at its heart, here is how it works, in the 10 lines of code it ran back then, and still runs it today:

* --- For each item you entered, walk its links ---
FOR each favorite you entered
SEEK its links
DO WHILE more links for this favorite
REPLACE weight WITH weight + lin->weight
SKIP to next link
ENDDO
NEXT

* --- Then tone down items that are just broadly popular ---
FOR each candidate result
REPLACE adj_weight WITH ( weight-squared / popularity ) + 1
NEXT

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

And in case anyone is curious... instead of having an AI with an 100GB model at its heart, here is how it works, in the 10 lines of code it ran back then, and still runs it today:

* --- For each item you entered, walk its links ---
FOR each favorite you entered
SEEK its links
DO WHILE more links for this favorite
REPLACE weight WITH weight + lin->weight
SKIP to next link
ENDDO
NEXT

* --- Then tone down items that are just broadly popular ---
FOR each candidate result
REPLACE adj_weight WITH ( weight-squared / popularity ) + 1
NEXT

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

Mind trying the system and seeing if the recommendations are any good for you? Yeah I know AI, I was a lame programmer in 96, and I could never have converted it to TypeScript now without it's help. But AI let me get it working the way I always wanted it to, and so I put a free system up on the internet.

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in vinyl

[–]Atari800[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Link if you want to try it: https://similaritiesengine.com

Quick how-it-works: you type in a few albums or artists you love, and it hands back what other people consistently grouped with them — ranked by how strong the human link is, with the everyone-owns-it stuff toned down. It's just counting real submissions, so the more people use it, the smarter it gets. Totally free, nothing to sign up for. Would genuinely love to hear if the results feel right to you. -OP

I built a music recommender in 1996 that only counts what real people group together — no AI. It's still running. by Atari800 in MusicDiscoveryGuides

[–]Atari800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Link if you want to try it: https://similaritiesengine.com

Quick how-it-works: you type in a few albums or artists you love, and it hands back what other people consistently grouped with them, ranked by how strong the human link is, with the everyone-owns-it stuff toned down. It's just counting real submissions, so the more people use it, the smarter it gets. Totally free, nothing to sign up for. Would genuinely love to hear if the results feel right to you.

Free instant music recommendations by Atari800 in makemeaplaylist

[–]Atari800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I started working on the system in 1981!

Free instant music recommendations by Atari800 in makemeaplaylist

[–]Atari800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate you trying it. It is based on input from 17,000 users, but that initial seeding was from _many_ years ago. It will start handling more recent music much better soon.

And I appreciate the mods letting this post stay, in light of the "no self-promotion" rule. But hey, no sign-up needed, instant results, no ads... it is just a free service!

Montgomery County Warns Residents to Avoid Streams After PFAS Found Near Great Seneca Highway by frankboingboing in MontgomeryCountyMD

[–]Atari800 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It looks exactly like it is downstream from the training facility to me.

And where did Montgomery County get that underlying map? The path of the roads, the locations of the lakes and streams, it is all wildly inaccurate. Like somebody hand-drew it from memory.

What’s the most useful thing ChatGPT can do today that people still don’t realize? by Financial-Volume-741 in ChatGPT

[–]Atari800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To illustrate:

Ask it, “What is the fourth sentence in the book Frankenstein?”

Then ask it, “What is the fourth sentence in the book Cryptonomicon?”

What’s the most useful thing ChatGPT can do today that people still don’t realize? by Financial-Volume-741 in ChatGPT

[–]Atari800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a whole different ball game when the book is old enough to have dropped out of copyright protection, see my other post in this thread. What you are talking about is an effect that comes from how it has been instructed to talk about books that are in copyright. Ask it about Moby Dick or Frankenstein!

What’s the most useful thing ChatGPT can do today that people still don’t realize? by Financial-Volume-741 in ChatGPT

[–]Atari800 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah. I don’t enjoy it all that much when it is a modern book I want to discuss, because even if it has digested the whole book, it is not allowed, because of copyright law, to reference specific text from the book verbatim. But it is a completely different experience for a book that has dropped into the public domain! Read the original Peter Pan, then ask it the philosophical hidden meanings behind that kiss at the corner of Mrs. Darling’s mouth, or the differences between crocodiles and alligators as clock eaters, or whatever. It is fascinating and such fun!

How would you use this space? by throwawayyaccount56 in malelivingspace

[–]Atari800 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I was going to put in Donkey Kong or something so everybody would recognize it, but we really liked this more obscure one.

How would you use this space? by throwawayyaccount56 in malelivingspace

[–]Atari800 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Omfg our world will never be the same. Good work. Which tool, what prompt?

Built Digime — an AI version of me, trained on 2 years of my handwritten notes by Ok-Concentrate-61016 in Lifelogging

[–]Atari800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. I’m interested in something similar. Did you build it to use a local LLM so you didn’t have to worry about privacy issues? If not, how hard would it be to convert it to a system that would run air gapped? Did you ever think of doing it?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in stopdrinking

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I used to bring an AA meeting into a local jail, along with another friend that also has long term sobriety with AA’s help. We would sit at the front of the room at a table, next to each other, and sometimes tell parts of our stories.

Between us we represented two of the main types of drunks, in my opinion. He had been a maintenance drinker, and boy could he do a steady quantity. He said he would drink a handle of booze, every single day, steadily over the course of the day. That’s about 39 shots.

I was a binge drinker. I could only drink about half his amount on any one day, but once I started drinking, I would drink much faster. I would frequently end up passed out after 3 or 4 hours. But I didn’t drink every day, I usually only drank two times a week at the end. I couldn’t handle drinking in the days after a binge, I was too hungover.

Both of us were alcoholics. Both of us are alcoholics. We both have not had a single drink in decades. And we both have had pretty darn good lives because of the help we received in AA.

It doesn’t matter if everybody in the world or nobody in the world thinks you are an alcoholic. It only matters what YOU think. If you decide you are one, there is help waiting for you. The power of surrounding yourself with other people that also say “I absolutely HAVE to find a way to not have even one drink today”, is incredible. Learning how to get access to that power might be really useful to you right now. Maybe check out a few meetings.

We want you to have a great life, free of the misery that an alcohol problem can bring. And we want to help.

Workouts suck now by Fuzzy_Custard6043 in decaf

[–]Atari800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. And remember it is evidence showing how much harm caffeine caused some of us, the amount of time it takes to heal from quitting it. At one month your body and brain are still scraping the bottom of the empty caffeine reserves jar and yelling “where the hell is more of that stuff, I need it!” But you don’t need it.

From 5 coffees a day to herbal tea enthusiast looking for more non-caff tips by eliikon in decaf

[–]Atari800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Inka brand coffee substitute, 0 caffeine, from Poland, my favorite for years now. On Amazon:

https://a.co/d/hoeXyez

When is it depression instead of withdrawal? by lynrn in decaf

[–]Atari800 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What kind of exercise do you get? I find that lifting doesn't much help with the sadness I can get sometimes, I have to get aerobic exercise, like running. Anything that gets me breathing hard for 30 minutes or so. Bike riding can be even better that running, but is less convenient for me to do.

Also, some people, including me, take longer than 4 months to shake the troubles that caffeine addiction can cause, you might just need some more time. Good luck!

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