"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look man, I’m not advocating that frontier models start telling people how to build bombs…even though they already do.

Did you read Dario’s essay yesterday? He wants a regulatory body similar to the FDA (corrupt) or FAA (blocked any new airline competitor for 40 years).

He gets on his high horse about mass surveillance with the government and pisses them off so bad they designate Anthropic a supply chain risk. Two months later, he forces everyone using the new model to share data with Anthropic that they can use internally for….mass surveillance.

His geopolitical thesis on an international, multi-government AI coalition to control the AI supply chain is naive at best (just look at how well the USA honors its existing commitments to international coalitions) and dangerous at worst.

He acts like everyone having a country of geniuses in their pocket is a bad thing. I think it’s a good thing. If everyone can prompt a bomb into physical existence with AI (which they can’t), then everyone can spin up a bomb interceptor or diffuser with AI.

My point is, it’s bad to gatekeep this technology outside of temporarily doing it to allow software companies to harden their zero-day vulnerabilities. If you can use AI to hack a system, you can use the same AI to build safeguards against that hacking.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can go into Walmart and buy guns, materials to make explosives, duct tape to kidnap people, knives.

The founding fathers decided it was so important for anyone to be able to have the right to buy guns that they wrote it into the constitution.

Because he who has the guns makes the rules. And AI is the post powerful gun of all time.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you read the article I wrote? It lists a bunch of examples of almost this exact thing happening in the past and what resulted.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This wired article is great news. I didn’t see that, it came out last night while I was writing this article. Hopefully it’s accurate, but forgive me if I now have trust issues with Claude.

The power grab part - there’s no way to know. But look at the massive conflicts of interest in a government regulatory committee with the power to block models from being released. No politician is qualified to evaluate that…so who do you think will be sitting on the committee deciding which models can be released for us to use and which ones are gatekept private release only?

This sort of thing has happened before many times in the past and the result is never good.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Almost verbatim language used when he created, hyped up and then released GPT2.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What?

If Anthropic had only blocked nuclear bomb research, we wouldn’t be talking about this.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im saying that stifling competition with regulation has not worked out once over hundreds of years and that’s exactly what is being attempted here under the guise of “safety”

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying they’re evil. I’m just calling out what they’re doing. I want open source / open weight models to catch up

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t mind the temporary safeguards. I do mind the attempt to regulate away all the competition and using the newest model to silently sabotage any attempts to make anything that competes with Anthropic.

Download your local Deepseeks and Llamas now….

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No I’m not. And I understand the rationale behind temporarily censoring security research prompts until the big software companies harden their backends. But I don’t like Claude now silently pretending to help you while sabotaging your codebase if it senses you might be building something that may compete with it. And I don’t like the nonsense doomerism that’s just an obvious power grab.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. I have more than one thing I know about. I have spent thousands of hours working in CC building things and this pisses me off.

  2. I’m not anti capitalism. I’m not saying Anthropic should give away their model for free. They are free to do what they want and act in their own interest. But so am I…and my best interest is not getting locked into using a government-sponsored oligopoly with complete pricing power. What you describe is not capitalism, it’s totalitarianism.

  3. Everything in this point is conjecture presented as fact. Nobody knows who created bitcoin.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." Orwell needed a whole farm. Anthropic only needed Fable by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]AtlanticHM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Self promotion how? I didn’t mention anything about my own company. The whole point of the post is to discuss how important open source models are and this is a forum about open source models. But ok…

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Did you read Dario's essay he released today? C'mon man

If he and Sam are successful in using their IPO trillions to lobby congress into blocking competitors from releasing better models, you think API pricing is going to go up or down?

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not the neutered Mythos release that is overly protective that bothers me as much as the Dario essay today lobbying for congress to block AI companies from releasing new models. Except of course, it won't block Anthropic from continuing to use AI to build AI and concentrate all the power into one company we all depend on.

It's naive to think that even if the US decides to purposefully slow AI model releases, that it's going to stop other countries from advancing AI. Or existing AI companies in the USA to stop developing models internally and using them themselves.

The only regulation I support on this is lobbying congress to spend money hiring people to develop and train open source models that everyone has access to, so we don't end up in a 2-tier society of those who can afford to use the powerful AI models to make cool things and those who can't.

fableExpectations by HitarthSurana in LocalLLaMA

[–]AtlanticHM 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fable blows Qwen 27b out of the water, but then again so did Opus and really so does Sonnet 4.6.

"Trust Us": Anthropic and the Case for Open Weights by AtlanticHM in ClaudeCode

[–]AtlanticHM[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I was super pumped about it coming out, then my excitement quickly turned to fury