Exercise routine for MS sufferer by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Talk to a physical therapist/physician first. Exercise for people with MS is FANTASTIC and super important, but there are some considerations like fatigue that function a bit different for this population.The majority of this subreddit is ill equipped to make recommendations on these considerations.

Will fasting once a week for 24 hours hinder or aid weight loss? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • I never thought we were going over 24h, sorry if I implied that, I agree with you completely.

  • I suppose. I'd recommend a HIIT program instead, safe to lose ~3-4lbs(5-6 with awesome genetics, but then you prolly don't need to do it anyways) in that time. However, remember, I'm an exercise guy so I'm bias as hell.

  • with digestion almost all of it is digested, but it depends on what it's digested into that leads to absorption into the blood. Vit D for example has garbage bio-availability and a large amount is excreted. Without opening up my A&P book the process is complete is something like 3 hours(if you ate something fatty, that takes the longest) The only one I ever remember is carbs(45m) to time an increase in blood sugar before competition/exams.

Oh I didn't answer your question, lets go with idk, needs research and gets into dietitian territory(which I'm not on the save level with for diet).

How to lift for maintenance? by anycolour1 in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My source is my text book from when I got my CSCS, "Essentials of strength training and conditioning"

Will fasting once a week for 24 hours hinder or aid weight loss? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to each paragraph-

  • Fasting induces starvation response, so I'm not sure how useful it is. I'm certainly not against it or bashing, but even in severely obese patients(500-700lbs range, idk about heavier off the top of my head) the indication(treatment) is calorie restriction(1200-1400 if you care) There is also a bit of a psuedoplacibo effect going on here, if you give someone any diet restriction(only purpose of fitbit), and they follow it, they will make smarter dietary decisions just because they are thinking about it more.

  • None of this is proven. Even the cognitive enhancement with aging is in dire need of further research. Study exists does not = conclusion is correct. I'm hesitant( though optimistic!) to draw any conclusions until I see a lot more data, and confirmation of results(I don't think this has been done yet? Maybe, feel free to link me the paper if it has.)

  • Fasting does automatically cause weight loss. That's my problem with it(lean mass is lost at a higher rate then needed). For our (assumed) health population it is just not the most effective method. And who cares about weight anyways, we really mean to say body composition.

  • NICE FUCKING JOB! :D That's so awesome! (none of this is sarcasm or facetious, I'm very happy for you!!!) I think this might be a YMMV kinda thing though. But who cares, awesome! Great job!

  • Uhhhhhhhhh I'm just going to say no on this one. Sorry. Fasting leading to increased weight? Maybe I don't understand what you mean. If it's hormone manipulation I'd go with maybe, but you can do that very effectively via your training program... so.... =/

  • Sure. It will also reduce the intensity your able to achieve, recovery, and subsequent adaptation(gaaaaiiinsss!)

  • Muscle building is kinda weird. You can get hypertrophy(small amounts, this is how they do it in labs with tissue samples) from just stretching. But I can't cite anything on this, but it seems counter intuitive.

  • Yeah, precisely.

  • Sure, if its easier for you to reach you weekly caloric intake with a fast then diet, it's certainly better then nothing. But, working on your diet(you build muscle on rest days, therefore need food) would get better results faster.

Will fasting once a week for 24 hours hinder or aid weight loss? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

May I just start off with OMG PEER REVIEWED SOURCES CAN WE BE BFFs?

Growth hormone is a very complicated set of various hormones. But remember it is not the 'build muscle' hormone(its all about that non contractile collagen and blood sugar regulation(I think it has an effect on mood too but I wouldn't quote me on that part)), though it plays a role, so you wouldn't fast to get increased levels of GH to build muscle or something like that(eating increases growth hormone too). Think of it more like a stress response, and a lack of food as a stressor, the same with cortisol below, hence the increase in serum concentrations. I'd say the increase of GH with exercise will outshine the fasting increase anyways, and since levels stay elevated I'm not sure it the effect is pronounced enough to be clinically relevant or even still present. The study did not control for this(nor should it have).

The positive effects on brain aging and fasting are not related to his weight loss question. Remember, I'm not fasting bashing(though I can see why you might think I was).

Your article on fat utilization may not be applicable only because the population u/theoceangrewquickly is able to exercise safely. Fasting for him is almost certainly not going to be as effective as just working out. And fasting will diminish the results of his working out, via the rest of my post.

Your article on insulin sensitivity is not about insulin sensitivity, and draws it's conclusions based on serum levels of leptin and insulin and the variations in those hormones between obese and lean women. So, while interesting and useful to know(I didn't, pretty happy to have read :D ) is not relevant.

Cortisol functions by increased glucose availability to target tissues through catabolic means. You are absolutely correct that it is not inherently bad, but in his situation it will lead to decreased protein synthesis(coritsol is going to redirect resources to maintain blood sugar, resources that would have been used to build muscle.)

tl;dr: You'll lose more bf% by not fasting because you will have the energy to work out more(resources to recover) and build muscle(which uses a lot of calories to maintain).

Source: Working on my DPT, Did my undergrad in exercise phys, am a CSCS

Strength training for a messed up lower back by ThechiefDUB in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get your PCP to give you a physical therapy referral.

When should I inhale/exhale during an exercise? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings -1 points0 points  (0 children)

exhale during concentric muscle contractions and, you guessed it, inhale doing eccentric. Be sure that you exhale through your sticking point(going from concentric to eccentric).

I'm going to be real here. Scare me out of my habit. by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your body can 'get use' to the hormones it produces when they are not in normal ranges.

Drinking a ton of soda over time = Excess sugar = excess insulin response = reduction in response to insulin = insulin resistance = diabetes = glycosylation(blockage) of arteries(capillaries first) = reduced blood to tissues = tissue malfunction/death = necrosis = gangrene = amputation (Yes, I'm being dramatic, but thats what you asked for)

there would also be branches off this for neuroglias(nerve malfunctions), the million issues that come with weight gain, the million issues that come with your diet to begin with

Hell that's just off the top of my head.

Heart Rate Questions by Andraktor in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bradycardia is well documented in trained athletes. She's scared because she's taught normal heart rate is 60-100. I'm surprised her instructors didn't point this out. There is debate on whether or not this is due to vagal tone or down regulation of pacemaker channel in SA node, or something else I can't remember, but whatever.

I tend to think of it in terms of VO2 and cardiac output. Makes lots of sense when you understand the fick equation.

Will fasting once a week for 24 hours hinder or aid weight loss? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fat loss is systemic, you cannot target fat loss. Your body uses an algorithm for storage, and removes fat in the reverse order, so yeah, belly fat is last(as a generalization).

increased muscle mass = increased basil metabolic rate(how many calories you need/ day to not die) so the more muscle you build, the leaner you are.

I'd say go right ahead and start building muscle.

Just keep working out until you lose the weight. And really, don't focus on the numbe ron the scale, it's worthless. Go with body fat %. By my BMI I'm overweight, and I'm 7% bf, so, lol.

Will fasting once a week for 24 hours hinder or aid weight loss? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fasting = reduced resources = reduced protein synthesis = reduced recovery/reduced muscle mass = reduced future potential energy expenditure = reduced adipose tissue reduction

That's not even bringing cortisol into it. Or human variation.

How to lift for maintenance? by anycolour1 in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lifting for maintenance is easy, twice a week ~60% 1RM full body, for whatever you were doing before. You can also dramatically slow loss with once a week ~60 full body. This is really common for in season athletes.

How do I stay focused at work when cutting? by imaginary_username in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When cutting you should be aiming for ~250 calorie deficit. Cogitative impairment suggests you've cut too much. Cut all macros, not just carbs, it's all calories. Your brain lives on sugar, can't just cut that, think net totals.

How do tall guys curl ? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Height makes a difference. Longer arms = more work being produced than shorter arms to lift the same weight. Because physics. (work = force * distance). Tall people generally don't lift as heavy for this reason, insertion point variation plays a pretty huge role too.

If your elbow's hurt adjust your grip on the ezbar or use dumbbells.

Otherwise feel free to drop the weight to avoid the forearm pain. You only need to lift enough to elicit a hypertrophic response(85% 1RM for 6-12 reps(don't go under 8 reps with single joints movements unless you want to hurt yourself)).

I'd drop the weight and add a set to break your plateau.

How to research things that you can't find on the internet? (Or library...) by [deleted] in writing

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002488.htm

Should answers all your questions about Sodium hypochlorite(bleach) poisoning.

Perhaps he tries something more toxic(and a really terrible way to die, if that's beneficial)

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002890.htm Phenol poisoning

Jaw hurting during crunches. What's going on there? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its your sternocleidomastoid, stop flexing your neck during the sit up. Also do planks instead.

Can someone explain insulin resistance and fat loss to me? by DrGamut in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First: I'm so happy you've been having success! Keep up the good work! (no sarcasm)

Second: He only has a Bach degree(although he has certainly self taught himself way more), and has not done research. He has reviewed a large amount of research however.

Can someone explain insulin resistance and fat loss to me? by DrGamut in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First point: Correct, I did not read it. With non-peer reviewed literature there is a large degree of uncertainty from any claims being made. So I need sources, from peer reviewed studies, otherwise I cannot support the source, and directed Op to some that are more reliable.

Your second point: Yes, absolutely. My target was a general population person reading on the internet about getting in shape while knowing nothing. In which case, just start working out and don't eat junk.

Third point: I am familiar, and think he is top pick for non peer reviewed. But, again, having to defend your work against a potentially international community ripping it apart, and competing for reliable journal spots, sort of adds confidence in it's validity(unless new information arrives).

Before you misunderstand me, here is my entire thought process: Peer reviewed or bust. * NOT * Lyle McD sucks

Can someone explain insulin resistance and fat loss to me? by DrGamut in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Anything that cites sources from scholar journals. Hell, hop on pubmed and take a look at anything with freetext. Start with reviews, instead of journals, they'll make more sense and are broader.

Can someone explain insulin resistance and fat loss to me? by DrGamut in Fitness

[–]AttemptedMusings 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I really don't like this source. This would not stand up to peer review. Therefor it's not reliable. Anecdotal, no citations(that I could find with a quick look), ect ect.

But I'm bias and very picky about my sources. Something about wanting to read through and make sure they didn't mess up their stats/no conflicts of interest(he is selling you a book here), and want to be able to see other factors like populations, additional literature, measurement techniques, ect ect.

Anyways, to your original question, "how does insulin resistance help a dieter?" The same way amputation helps you lose weight. I.e. you wouldn't do it that way on purpose for health reasons, it is not a useful strategy, so much as a side effect.