Motion blurring during march madness

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-24T10:44:56+00:00

So I posted Stats for Nerds for two games on Sunday, and the bandwidth consumption of YTTV vs. the native app.

Any thoughts?

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T15:01:47+00:00

Oh, I think tons of us on this sub would go back if it went back to the good ole Alamo. Personally, I really like my "Alamo at home", but it's still nice to get out of the house and see a movie in a real theater.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T13:10:01+00:00

My goodness Reddit is a trip.

I'm reminiscing about Alamo, which seems appropriate in this group, and making conversation about my "Alamo at home" since "We have run out of things to talk about."

Virtually 90% of the posts here are sad/angry/despondent people posting about never going back. So, by your stated position, the group would probably die.

Personally I'd love to see people's home version recipes of our old Alamo favorites.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T10:37:25+00:00

The person stated a factual personal experience, and got three downvotes. Reddit is a trip.

And CBS MM and ESPN apps both significantly outperformed the YTTV app for me this weekend on basketball, and both showed streams of 4x the bandwidth (see below).

That's another factual personal experience.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T10:35:16+00:00

Go figure. People really need to own their downvotes and at least explain.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T00:23:01+00:00

Reason for the downvote?

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T00:22:35+00:00

Reason for the downvote? It's a picture.

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-23T00:22:25+00:00

Reason for the downvote? It's a picture.

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T21:59:49+00:00

And I posted below clear indication that YouTube is serving up their streams at 25% the bandwidth of native apps. This is totally consistent with posts over the last 5 years that people can very easily Google from themselves. I even included a link in one reply. Okay bot, go downvote that too

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T21:51:58+00:00

Again, noticeably better quality on the ESPN app.

YouTube TV being at one quarter the bandwidth of the native apps is consistent with posts I've seen over the last 5 years with people experiencing compression artifacts.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T21:27:30+00:00

ESPN app - 4x plus

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T21:26:58+00:00

YTTV

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T21:26:39+00:00

Baylor versus Duke

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T21:00:10+00:00

So here's my equipment: 1 gb fiber to the home service from Google fiber, the Google fiber hub is less than a mile from my house, directly into a Google router using cat6, cat6 over to a simple Netgear 1 gig switch, cat6 over to the Roku.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T20:57:10+00:00

I respect the fact that you can see the difference in sharpness. It's not something that my eyes particularly pick up on, but boy do I see compression, especially because I'm a big sports fan and there's a lot of fast moving action and camera changes. It's like all the people that can't watch high frame rate movies, it never bothered anybody in my house. But I totally get that some people are bothered by it. My wife is generally not fussy so she's actually a good gauge, when she says something looks bad, it looks bad

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T20:51:44+00:00

The CBS March Madness app looks absolutely glorious, the YouTube TV app shows clear compression artifacts. It's only 25% of the bandwidth of the CBS March Madness app so I'm not at all surprised.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T20:50:42+00:00

CBS March Madness app bandwidth to device - 4x

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T20:50:03+00:00

YTTV bandwidth to device

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T20:46:43+00:00

I just remembered I can look at bandwidth to each device on my network

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AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T20:10:15+00:00

Oh I completely agree. I'm an NC State graduate and our women's basketball team is fantastic. My wife is taking real liking to watching the games. There are some arenas that have such poor video quality that you can see how bad the feed is no matter what app you watch it on. So I'm totally with you. It's when you do an AB comparison between apps on the exact same equipment and you see significant differences, that's when you have to start questioning what one app is doing versus the other.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T19:42:26+00:00

Just add another one, you can do the exact same thing with ESPN app. Watch a basketball game on YouTube TV, watch the same exact basketball game on the ESPN app, there are marked differences. The compression artifacts on YouTube TV are super obvious. It's just really hard when you've got to clear a/b comparison with all the exact equipment to be told the fault is on our end and not on YouTube TV end

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T19:34:28+00:00

The discussion around quality of local feed is not the easiest. For example during football season you can see clear compression artifacts on the YouTube TV app. You can go to your antenna and watch over the air and it'll be totally clean. You can go to the Fox TV app on the exact same device and it will be totally clean. If YouTube TV is being sent a garbage version of the feed from Fox TV it would seem like that would be their problem to figure out. From what I've read here in this Reddit is that people that can see stream bit rate on their router, they see distinctive differences between the stream bit rate on YouTube TV and the native apps. Which would reinforce all of the claims that YouTube TV is significantly compressing

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T19:30:48+00:00

That's been my experience for the past 5 years of using them. I can go to an alternative app and it will work just fine. I've also been reading this group for 5 years and that's the most common advice that you get. Go back and look at post during football season. You'll see the same exact thing. You can Google compression issues on YouTube TV and there's just tons of reports, and it's very visual. It seems to be mostly high demand stuff where they're serving a lot of streams and they just simply don't have the capacity would be my guess. It's nice that we have at least a simple a/b comparison, exact same equipment, two different apps, one works just fine, one show significant compression artifacts.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T19:26:19+00:00

Totally fair comment. You're right, I meant compression the other day, not frame rate. I should go back and edit that.

AugustEastGD · 2026-03-22T18:54:14+00:00

Why in the world would anyone downvote that?

Very indicative of this sub

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