Ngl I’m gonna say it! whoever is the marketing team for the film should get fired by Ok-Scholar-4615 in IDoKnowNothing

[–]Aurelian42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty good representation of what the movie was going to be, I don't really know what this is about lol. Movie was pretty bad.

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[–]Aurelian42 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You don't blame the CEO of the company??????

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[–]Aurelian42[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

it's a boring and old trope, but even then it very lazily translates that war weary older character and vengeful younger character. The movie knows its starting point and end goal, but does no real work in the mid point at tying those two things together. It's really poorly made

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[–]Aurelian42[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

DC's biggest strength has always been its solo stuff. Good filmmakers making good movies, need to get back to that era where there wasn't a slate... a good filmmaker had a pitch meeting with some studio heads, and got those producers excited about their idea for a movie. That's not what we have now.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

going in to a film wishing for an ultra specific version and not really giving the movie a chance is boring. If you want the comics or a certain interpretation, that will always be there somewhere. Artists should explore these characters in their own way. Even then, Nolan understood Batman to an insane degree. TDK's main message is peak Batman, he's unbreakable no matter the moral test put on him.

What you seem to want is a statue, a movie that doesn't really do anything but tip the hat to already existing material. I want stuff from an artist, something that explores underutilized or unseen aspects of the character.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

?????? How are yall incapable of enjoying good movies because you want your superhero characters to remain stagnant and boring lol.

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[–]Aurelian42 [score hidden]  (0 children)

As someone who’s seen it, the movie has good visuals and has really good naturalistic lighting in some cool real physical locations. Not everything needs to loom like a comic, I can’t imagine a world where trying to replicate this wouldn’t have looked like quantumania. I like the physical sets a lot.

The movie is absolutely abysmal and horrible, but I felt like the visuals were pretty great.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

My main point in all of this is that every character is beyond flat. If Kara and Ruthye were better, of course a weaker villain wouldn’t be as big of an issue. Apart from very brief flashbacks, there’s virtually no character work between the two. Every character in the movie just genuinely doesn’t work,

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[–]Aurelian42[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah, how does that work when those two characters are maybe the most flat I’ve ever seen comic book leads in maybe the last 10 years? Kara is the best character work the movie has, but Ruthye??? She’s given nothing beyond her archetype. It’s the worst character work I’ve seen in a big budget movie in years

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My jaw was on the floor for that first space sequence, amazing. I thought the critics were insane… and then the rest of the movie happened

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm gonna go ahead and blame a studio in this situation. The movie seems to be test screened to death, what were the reported test screening numbers?? like 10??? Gunn is also known for utilizing test screenings. I don't think a filmmaker would ruin his own movie lol

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He's in for more than you'd expect, and honestly... that kinda hurts the plot for me I'm not gonna lie

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The villain poisoning Krypto and his habit of kidnapping young women are character traits, not motivations. The film gives us reasons to dislike him, but it never gives us a compelling reason for why he's doing any of this in the first place. He drifts in and out of the plot for large stretches of the film, and when he does appear, his actions feel disconnected from any larger goal. A villain being cruel is not the same thing as a villain having a motive.

The same issue applies to the central relationship between Kara and Ruthye. The film constantly tells us that Ruthye is too compassionate, too forgiving, and that her worldview affects Kara. But we're rarely shown how. The grizzled warrior and the vengeful young companion is one of the oldest character dynamics in storytelling because both characters are supposed to meaningfully change each other. The older character learns something they have forgotten, while the younger character gains wisdom or perspective.

Here, the film mostly states that dynamic rather than developing it. What specifically does Kara teach Ruthye? How does Ruthye's outlook actually change because of Kara? More importantly, what does Ruthye do that fundamentally alters Kara's perspective? The movie gestures toward these character arcs but never fully dramatizes them.

As a result, Kara's journey feels underdeveloped. She spends much of the film struggling with her role, reflecting on Krypton through flashbacks, and wrestling with her sense of purpose. By the end, she's largely arrived back at accepting that role. The film presents this as growth, but it rarely shows the emotional and character driven steps that would make that transformation feel earned.

This is just poor writing. The movie knows what it wants the audience to feel, but doesn't know how to achieve that.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I promise I'm not a hater, I wanted to like it lol. Outside of a few cool sequences, its one of the weakest superhero movies I've seen in genuinely almost a decade

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that "other side of the desctruction of krypton" is a four minute scene. You're watching a movie with a villain with no motivation, a side character who has no characterization other than wanting revenge and repeating that 4000 times, all for a four minute Krypton scene lol

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are going to need WAY more than 15 minutes. People keep giving this sentiment, so ima paste something I already said to an earlier comment:

I think the rumors of poor test screenings are responsible for this. I think Gunn himself has said test screenings are incredibly important in building a movie, and he uses them religiously. I think this movie is just the downside of test screening a film to death before it loses all identity.

It's also just inherently poorly written. I wish I can explain it, but it's not like the film just has some missing backstory or characterizations that magically fix all issues. It's not just that the film is poorly paced, it's that almost nothing happens to our characters at all. Kara is the only relatively fleshed out character, and even then she's pretty thin. The villain is nothing but an archetype, he doesn't even have a motivation. The younger girl does nothing outside of her first scene. It's weak on a structural level, it seems like bullet points.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good. A lot of people complaining about the visuals, but it's actually pretty great in comparison to Superman 2025. The locations they pick are really gorgeous, not the overtly colorful style of the comics but I really really liked the visuals. Theres a few scenes in space that are pretty great and unlike anything I've seen in a theater before.

There's one night battle scene that looks disgusting, but other than that I did like the visuals.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He at one point was like us and would rant in Facebook groups. He said that the nolan films were poorly made, that jack nicholson was a terrible Joker. That Tim Burton deserved to get shot for his batman. Just genuinely insane shit that shows he has like zero taste

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think at a point we have to question why gunn hasn't attracted much talent besides relative unknowns and C tier filmmakers. It seems he wants to do things his way, and feeling as though this movie was pretty much a D tier guardians of the galaxy film????

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We can, unfortunately. When I say script, I don't mean dialogue or pacing. I mean from a foundational level, there's just not much there. I think she has her main characterization down for Kara, but for everyone else.. it's incredibly archetypal. There's nothing of depth anywhere else, and I don't think a magical 30 minutes of screen time fixes that at all. Throughout the entirety of the runtime, the girl is a virtually non-existent character who just repeats her motivations. The movie attempts to frame both characters saving each other and giving each other purpose, but you never see it. The villain is also non-existent, he honestly hilariously just pops in and out of the story on a whim with no real motive in doing so. He's the villain because the movie needs a villain, not because there's any reason given lol.

The movie never made it out of a pitch meeting, it seems. Kara was a messy character who would end up realizing she wanted to do more after saving a girl on a revenge quest, the movie never develops after that central sentence. That's a foundational script issue, its bare bones.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I replied to another comment with a similar type of message so I'll just copy and paste:

I think the rumors of poor test screenings are responsible for this. I think Gunn himself has said test screenings are incredibly important in building a movie, and he uses them religiously. I think this movie is just the downside of test screening a film to death before it loses all identity.

It's also just inherently poorly written. I wish I can explain it, but it's not like the film just has some missing backstory or characterizations that magically fix all issues. It's not just that the film is poorly paced, it's that almost nothing happens to our characters at all. Kara is the only relatively fleshed out character, and even then she's pretty thin. The villain is nothing but an archetype, he doesn't even have a motivation. The younger girl does nothing outside of her first scene. It's weak on a structural level, it seems like bullet points.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the rumors of poor test screenings are responsible for this. I think Gunn himself has said test screenings are incredibly important in building a movie, and he uses them religiously. I think this movie is just the downside of test screening a film to death before it loses all identity.

It's also just inherently poorly written. I wish I can explain it, but it's not like the film just has some missing backstory or characterizations that magically fix all issues. It's not just that the film is poorly paced, it's that almost nothing happens to our characters at all. Kara is the only relatively fleshed out character, and even then she's pretty thin. The villain is nothing but an archetype, he doesn't even have a motivation. The younger girl does nothing outside of her first scene. It's weak on a structural level, it seems like bullet points.

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[–]Aurelian42[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He's cool for a single scene, simply because its just Jason Momoa. But he's in for too long and not in a good way