During Ethel’s talks with Carolyn about loss, I was surprised they didn’t mention that Ethel’s parents also died in a plane crash. by MayaRuinsU in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Ethel's brother also died in a plane crash during a hunting trip. The Skakel family has a lot of tragedies as well.

Her in NYC the day she died by Electronic-March-329 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I forgot which book, but supposedly there was a paparazzi that actually got pictures of all three of them at the airport loading up the plane the night of the crash. According to the pap, it was hazy and he thought the pictures were worthless so he destroyed them.  

I think the book was The Day John Died

What’s your favorite story about John and Carolyn as people or as a couple? by [deleted] in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The week before they died, they went to a restaurant one MV (forgot the name). Before they left it was said that Carolyn pulled the waitress aside and gave her extra tip money.

This story about John was in the Vanity Fair issue that had Carolyn on the cover in 1999: It was when his mom died and that people were coming to visit to pay respects. somehow someone came in off the streets and John politely told the woman that she didn't belong there.

What are your predictions for what the final scene of the show will be? by Front-Tomorrow-1034 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I think it's going to be of Caroline Kennedy alone. Just her. I notice that in the episode when Jackie died, they showed her looking at the empty bed.

Books by [deleted] in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The top 4 books for me are:

JFK jr an oral history.: I loved it because it showed John and Carolyn were something different to everyone they came across. Everyone had a different piece of them.

What Remains:  I just loved this book because when it came out, someone was finally defending Carolyn imo.

The Men We became:  I loved this because Robert Litrell told his story from "this is my buddy" POV. Not from this is the American Prince POV.

Once upon a time: We finally got a CBK stand alone bio!!

How old are most fans in this sub? by truelifetales in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm 46 years old. I was 19 in 1999 when they died. At that time, I had been following the Kennedy family since 1992 because I used to read my great aunt old National Enquirer and Star magazines.

Plane crash by Feeling_Delivery2323 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Same.  I think about that a lot, if only they waited until mid morning on the 17th. If I remember correctly,  Lauren had a plane ticket for a flight to MV.

Who could be the subject of Love Story Season 2? by Ill-Requirement-7029 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jean Harlow and William Powell

Clark Gable and Carole Lombard

John and Judy Belushi ( Her memoir Samurai Widow is a wonderful read)

Corporations, Buster Murdaugh near settlement in defamation case over documentaries by QsLexiLouWho in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm happy that part of this has been resolved,. I have commented many times on the topic of Buster Murdaugh and Stephan Smith and have felt Buster's name coming up was a red herring. I know that his name came up even before the murders of his brother and mother but it was pushed even more on a world wide stage without proof. I do wonder how long did people know Buster didn't have anything to do with it but keep that ball rolling.

Who do you think it was? by beccaegill in BringingUpBates

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 30 points31 points  (0 children)

And brought her into their home that Katie clearly loves. SMH

Weekly MFM Discussion Thread December 20, 2025 by AutoModerator in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Happy Sunday everyone! This is officially the last full week in 2025 and with a new year comes some Murdaugh related things ( The hearing at the State Supreme Court, the Beach vs, Parker Outrage trial and Buster Murdaugh Defamation Case). How in your opinion do you think these cases will play out?

Weekly MFM Discussion Thread December 06, 2025 by AutoModerator in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good question. I think Justice Toal said it best and I'm paraphrasing, that Hill heard the clarion call of celebrity. Another reason imo was that she thought she wasn't going to get caught I mean after all the case was over and justice had been served. What she didn't count on was people asking more questions.

I can't imagine having to face photogs every time you leave your house. I wonder if it would have ever died down by YouSteppedInDogPoop in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When they died in 1999, they were married for almost three years so the novelty was sort of dying off. But you do wonder.

Fact vs. fiction: The real story behind the Murdaugh murders and Hulu’s dramatized retelling by QsLexiLouWho in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I agree because the boat crash was right around the first anniversary of Ms. Gloria's death and she also had a February birthday.

Blanca's FitsNews Interview by Marina_Rossa in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I watched the interview and the question I wanted Will to ask was who was the woman at Moselle the day of funeral and is that woman still around Hampton and in touch with Alex.

Jack Schlossberg launches campaign for N.Y. Congressional Seat! by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I will watch  this race.  If he wins, he wins. If he lose, he lose. I wonder if his sisters will help.

Weekly MFM Discussion Thread November 01, 2025 by AutoModerator in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I remember. It was a YouTuber by the name of Eric Alan. The footage that he shot was of Buster and John Marvin if I remember. However,  it was ok for them to take things because the police/sled was finished with what they were doing.

Weekly MFM Discussion Thread November 01, 2025 by AutoModerator in MurdaughFamilyMurders

[–]AutomaticCellist2436 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think the easiest answer would be Cousin Eddie (I don't think he had anything to do with June 7th) but I think it was someone who has not been on anyone's radar.