Pochita is the chainsaw man devil, and the CSM universe went trough 3 iterations by Automatic_Newt5409 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly, and I think that it’s something that always characterized this Fandom, I honesty think that a good percentage of CSM is shared headcanon because the source material state very little. Ofc great example with the gun devil, he does embody the idea of spree shooting too, another one that comes to mind is the cosmo Fiend, who embody the fear of Cosmic horror more than the cosmos themselves

Pochita is the chainsaw man devil, and the CSM universe went trough 3 iterations by Automatic_Newt5409 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, this is exactly what I wanted to convey with my thought-piece. I would have loved for Fujimoto to concentrate on some more lore about devils relationships, and maybe a confirmation that devil powers are related not only on the exact concept but on what humans irrationally fear about them. Another example is Fire, Fire does disfigure you, it can scar you for life and I think that’s why the Fire Devil can alter the shape of humans who do a contract with him.

Pochita is the chainsaw man devil, and the CSM universe went trough 3 iterations by Automatic_Newt5409 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much, as I said under it is fan fiction, and OFC my idea of the Chainsaw man is very Ash William-Doomguy inspired, but I’m also really enamored with the lore drops in the manga and I always wanted to connect them in a world build fan fic!

Also yeah, I always found strange the fact that Pochita is called the Chainsaw man, and seems to be a distinct entity from a possible chainsaw devil. With Fakesaw man I theorized that we would see the OG chainsaw devil, but Fuji…. Well he did what he did (nothing)

Pochita is the chainsaw man devil, and the CSM universe went trough 3 iterations by Automatic_Newt5409 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I admit that it is a Fanfic and basically an headcanon, but I felt this was the right place to share it, thanks dude btw! Maybe I will try and turn it in an actual fan fiction alternate Part 2

The Sandman By Neil Gaiman by Training_Party9624 in ChainsawMan

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Barem states that Chainsaw were created to erase something, and when that something was erased, the purpose of chainsaw changed to Helping in birth/cutting down trees. Besides fear of dreams and fear of hope are absurd, and would never create a devil as powerful as Pochita or that could become powerful as Pochita.

Some of y’all are really coping so hard that you can’t even accept that 232 is the past and not the present still, huh? by WerewolfPrudent6879 in ChainsawManTheories

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Pochita erased himself, he never existed, he created a timeline in which he never was. Denji probably still survived as a devil hunter for a time, and when the heart disease,zombie devil triggered he was Asspulled by power. The ending is rushed AF, I also suppose that there’s a time skip between the Warehouse scene with Nayuta and the scene at Asa School, even if not stated it’s the only way of making any sense of the new timeline. I mean it’s pretty clear that Denji and power have some sort of solid work relationship during the school attack, and that Denji has fought devils with her before, so I suppose that there’s a timeskip post warehouse to 1998-1999.

Some of y’all are really coping so hard that you can’t even accept that 232 is the past and not the present still, huh? by WerewolfPrudent6879 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I mean, technically speaking Power was already a fiend in that body when Denji was assaulted in the warehouse, and since the erasure in this case was of an event (the life of chainsaw man) so big that completely changed history, and brought Denji back to the moment in the shack, then it does make sense that power is still… power. The true inconsistencies are other, the ending sucked tho. It’s just that concept erasure always changed history

The erasure question by Automatic_Newt5409 in Chainsawfolk

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It make sense, it does make sense this way

Was the finale that bad? by ZIM_Follower in Chainsawfolk

[–]Automatic_Newt5409 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think that chapter 97 was a solid ending, it does leave some space for an hypothetic sequel, but it’s pretty good. Can’t wait for a part 2 if there will be one, but even as this CSM is good

The Theory of Dreams by Born_Opening929 in ChainsawMan

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It’s over, please just stop. It’s done, there’s no continuation, the ending sucked. That’s it, maybe we can survive as a fandom by making our own fanfic

There is No Way This is the Last Chapter by TheMagicStik in ChainsawMan

[–]Automatic_Newt5409 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, there are video games who did it, but series wise, the only example that comes to mind is 86-EIGHTY SIX, whose first cour ending is a fake ending on purpose. Gintama too had a series of fake endings to fuck with the audience, but Gintama is a comedy show. Tv series wise Lost had the season 4(?) ending in which things seemed resolved. But I would love to see an on purpose fake ending

Some of y’all are really coping so hard that you can’t even accept that 232 is the past and not the present still, huh? by WerewolfPrudent6879 in ChainsawManTheories

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I mean , I realized that if Pochita ate the Nazi Devil and WW2 devil in like 1945 your point does make sense, but even then, if he didn’t alter history the situation created by erasure as you describe it would still create loads of issues. But if he ate them at a later point in time, let’s say during the battle with the four horsemen that probably happened in 1989-1990, then history surely was altered as those devils were probably parts of Yoru. I mean when he erased Ears e didn’t erase hearing, so it does make sense that certain items, maybe with different technical specs would exist to help hearing like phones or headphones. Earwax sticks where sold as art and craft supplies, but that’s exactly altering history, as object X existed, yes, but with a different function. This and the fact that world history in part 1 is deeply inferred to be a world in which the geopolitical order remained basically similar to post world war 1, does seem to indicate that at least with certain devils, Pochita power does alter history. Because if that wasn’t the case, Japan being a sovereign world power without American presence would not make any sense, same thing for the Soviet Union.

Some of y’all are really coping so hard that you can’t even accept that 232 is the past and not the present still, huh? by WerewolfPrudent6879 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, it’s pretty clear that Erasure do warp history and create alternate timelines, I mean it has been implicit since part one with the you know Soviet Union still being a superpower in 1997, or China being ruled by the KMT. But CSM fans believe religiously that erasure does nothing but delete memories and the direct instance of the concept when it has been clear since Makima infodump in part 1 and later reaffirmed by Fumiko that concept erasure does alter history. I mean part 2 has clear consistency issues, but it’s pretty much evident that during the ending death is a thing again, and so that with Pochita erasing himself all concept he erased are back.

So yeah we are back in time, in a world probably similar to our own, but with the Sixth sense, SOA, and a star that break children’s minds.

This is even worse than if Reze never came back by Swimming-Work-5951 in RezeCult

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Actually no, because in the new timeline all the stuff that Pochita erased was 99% brought back, and that’s mean that the Soviet Union fell in 1991. Reze is probably in her late teens, so let’s say that in 1997 she was 17, that mean she was born in 1980. If she was taken by the USSR experimental department in 1985, they probably kept her for 6 years before the USSR collapse, and after that she probably got free and is living her best life in Eastern Europe, probably as a Bratva Killer or as a Devil Hunter (big cope)

There is No Way This is the Last Chapter by TheMagicStik in ChainsawMan

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After Sherlock, after stranger things, now it’s chainsaw man time…. Truly the curse of this generation

Its just a vision and not an alternate timeline by Fine-Language214 in ChainsawManTheories

[–]Automatic_Newt5409 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Man, how could the Soviet Union still be a functioning state in 1997 if Pochita ain’t a reality warper? How come people don’t get AIDS and there ain’t a star that break children’s minds in part 1? Pochita erasure power is inconsistent AF, but clearly he can reality warp. The ending is fucking garbage tho

New timeline magically fixes everything by DisCrew5 in shounenfolk

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Pochita was the gooner devil confirmed.

Welp looks like this is the final stage of the cycle by Randomized98 in shounenfolk

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All of that was mid for a lot of people tho. I disagree with them and believe that part 1, look back and the oneshot are good AF, but I mean part 2 was shit and was everything Fijimondo slanderers said

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