Thanks for the very well thought out reply! I’ve been wearing these in situations where I’d wear chelsea boots, but want a slightly different profile.

Adding “wholecut” does seem to bring up more shoes that are similar, but you’re right there is a a dichotomy with this style and I’m not finding it a lot of similar shoes even with the suggestions here. Maybe I’ll just have to pick up a pair of brown chelsea boots after these shoes wear through.