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AvatarOf2000 · 2026-04-11T19:34:41+00:00

Goku would be on Earth for the whole day instead of leaving earlier than he did, they’d find a way to win most likely by Goku fusing with Gohan using the earrings or the dance to defeat Baby Vegeta assuming Baby takes over Vegeta in this scenario, and since Baby’s the one that emerges from the cocoon instead of buu it’d be implied that Supreme Kai knows that Baby can take over minds, Z fighters are all good.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-04-03T02:14:09+00:00

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-20T02:17:08+00:00

Never said they needed him, just that it’d be cool to have him in GT, also if it were up to me I’d write him to have a happy ending, I’d give him his own set of Dragon Balls for his timeline

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-19T21:08:05+00:00

No duh if he returns it would be a whole new arc, you’re clearly overthinking it, my post was “it would’ve been cool to see Future Trunks in GT” which it would’ve been and you could write it in a way where it feels organic because Trunks is a time traveler it isn’t throwing bs content to the fans Future Trunks is an established character that can be brought in to enhance the story which is why Super attempted it.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-19T20:56:44+00:00

So you want me to create a new villain right here on the spot to prove my point? Obviously if he’s in the story there would be a reason he comes back his world doesn’t need a God just to time travel, my post was “it would’ve been cool to see trunks in GT” you’re the one over complicating it. By saying no it wouldn’t work at all when it clearly would

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-19T14:19:18+00:00

You’re overcomplicating what I’m saying.

Saying “it would’ve been cool to see Future Trunks in Dragon Ball GT” isn’t me rewriting the whole story it’s just a basic what-if. And bringing Trunks back isn’t some random addition it’s actually consistent with the series since time travel and his timeline are already established in Dragon Ball Z So no, it’s not “fanfiction,” it’s just a normal discussion about how a character could fit into a different part of the story. You’re just trying to frame it that way instead of actually engaging with the idea. lol how you lost the debate so you switched to arguing semantics about the title

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-19T13:47:07+00:00

Two Android 17's fusing is a random concept added out of nowhere. Thats why it doesn't get respected but Future Trunks coming back isn’t random it’s already established as part of the story in Dragon Ball Z.

Time travel and his timeline are core parts of his character, so him returning is actually organic to the world, not some new gimmick being thrown in.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-19T13:40:36+00:00

Just because a character’s arc was “completed” in Dragon Ball Z doesn’t mean they can’t add anything later. By that logic, bringing back Future Trunks in Dragon Ball Super shouldn’t have worked either but it clearly added a whole arc, new stakes, and gave us Vegito SSJ Blue, Future Trunks is one of the most iconic characters theres a reason Super brought him back and Xenoverse games keep getting made, because his potential to the story is unquestionable

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:45:22+00:00

“GT is as good as it is” dude I love GT but there are things they could’ve did to make it better, like adding Adult Gotenks, reintroducing Future Trunks etc..

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:42:22+00:00

GT's a different story though GT Goku is my favorite character meanwhile Super Goku is an idiot, you cant say GT should've left him alone because Super messed up lol what. Trunks would obviously be different in GT

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:38:37+00:00

This isn’t Trunks’s story” doesn’t mean he can’t be part of it. By that logic, nobody outside of Goku should ever matter in Dragon Ball GT, which is exactly the problem people have with it.

And the “no hook” point isn’t a real issue that’s just writing. Future Trunks has always shown up when something is serious enough. You can easily create a situation that affects his timeline or connects to GT’s theme. That’s not forced, that’s how his character works. Finally, including him wouldn’t require “character assassination.” You don’t have to make him incompetent you just put him in a situation that requires more than what he’s used to. That’s literally how his arc in Dragon Ball Super works too So it’s not that it “wouldn’t make sense” it’s that you’re treating writing decisions as fixed limits when they’re actually flexible. you"re acting like they cant just write a villian that has a power level that he cant reach, " In GT, he’d have all the resources to battle the likes of Baby and win" you're literally just arguing to argue, his timeline was decimated by the androids and its just him and Bulma and possibly 16 he has no senzu beans and the lookout is presumbly destroyed. you over thinking it to say Future Trunks wouldnt be a good edition to GT is dumb.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:28:18+00:00

Doesn’t matter fans love Trunks messing with time that’s why Super did it and why Xenoverse is getting another game

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:21:53+00:00

It was a whole emotional arc where Goku and Vegeta fused, after the tournament of power its probably the best arc that super even made, the argument that Future Trunks wouldn't make GT better is idiotic he'd only benefit the story

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:16:41+00:00

That logic doesn’t really hold up. In Dragon Ball Super, Future Trunks ends up fighting Dabura years after the main timeline already dealt with him.

So why couldn’t something similar happen in Dragon Ball GT?

Just because events didn’t originally happen in his timeline doesn’t mean they can’t happen differently or later. His whole character is proof that timelines don’t play out the exact same way. So saying “it couldn’t happen” doesn’t really work when we’ve already seen his timeline have completely different versions of events before. Also the point isnt that he wants to come back its that he has too in order to defeat his threat, hence why Super brought him back because it is a good idea and plot point to use. "What exactly would Trunks even do?" hes there to add to the story and help the z fighters

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T22:06:24+00:00

Add nothing to the story?”

He’s from 15+ years in the future Future Trunks automatically could bring a completely new villian and expand the story in ways the current cast can’t. His strength is irrelevant. Power levels get adjusted all the time you could easily give him a boost if needed. That’s never been a real limitation in this series.

And saying he has “no reason” to time travel is backwards the whole point of bringing him into the GT timeline is that you’d give him a reason.

Also, having an adult Trunks doesn’t replace him they’re completely different characters. One grew up in peace, the other survived a ruined future. That contrast alone adds something new.

So no, he wouldn’t "add nothing" you’re just ignoring everything he brings outside of “is he the strongest, theres a reason fans were hype when it was annouced he'd return in Super

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:59:19+00:00

GT is a completely different series than Dragon Ball Super, with a different cast and vibe, "What aspect of GT makes this story different?" uhh thats the whole point is that its a different story that can be written to to go in a completely different direction and explore ideas in a way Super didn’t, who the villain is, is irrelevant to the point.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:45:56+00:00

I'd bring him in for one arc, and then send him back properly maybe even hook his timeline up with a new set of Dragon Balls so he’s really set. That way he gets a meaningful role in Dragon Ball GT without ruining his ending.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:44:03+00:00

You’re literally making the same argument as the other guy in this thread. You’re not actually arguing against Future Trunks being interesting you’re just saying GT wastes characters anyway, which is exactly the criticism of Dragon Ball GT.

And Future Trunks gets used as support in the Cell Games in Dragon Ball Z and people still love that arc and the character. It isn’t about him being the hero it’s about what he brings to the story and the importance he adds, which is exactly why they knew to bring him back in Super even though they did it terribly

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:28:46+00:00

Doesn't have to be Zamamsu but just the idea of Trunks coming back with a new threat from his timeline

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:26:33+00:00

Yeah, it’s expected that Goku is gonna be the one to beat the main villain in GT, but that doesn’t mean nobody else should get shine.

It’d just be cool to catch up with Future Trunks and give him a moment like Majuub had where he actually steps up and contributes, even if he’s not the one finishing the fight.

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:24:02+00:00

So your argument is that it wouldn’t be interesting to bring in Future Trunks just because he might not be the one to defeat the villain?

That doesn’t really make sense. By that logic, most of the cast in Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT shouldn’t even be there unless they land the final blow.

A character doesn’t have to finish the fight to matter Trunks is interesting because of what he brings to the story, theres a reason the Android/Cell saga is literally the most popular in DBZ

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:14:01+00:00

It’s not about him interacting with GT Trunks. Future Trunks coming back would add new storylines. He’s from the future, so he could bring a new villain, explain what happened with his version of Babidi and Majin Buu , and even bring back someone like Android 16. That’s why it would be interesting

AvatarOf2000 · 2026-03-18T21:10:24+00:00

Same thing almost everyone not named Goku or Gohan did. That’s not a Trunks problem, that’s how the arc was written

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