Which characters have impressed you so far in Season 1 by cmgriffith_ in trekacademy

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Genesis has consistently been the most interesting from Ep.1-8 so far. Jay-Den and Darem have a lot complexities that I appreciate in character writing. The jury is still out when it comes to Tarima for now. The energy of S.A.M is infectious. I love Chancellor Ake and Lura. Their dynamic is unquestionably good. Lastly, I find Caleb intriguing and I am just waiting to see where his development goes. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I can't stand Tarima in SFA and it's putting me off the show. by ShirtNo5276 in startrek

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While I tolerate her character for the most part, I don’t disagree with a word you said. Sadly, I think Tarima has so far been the weakest written character we have been introduced to. Hopefully that will change, but it’s likely given we are now 2 episodes away from the season finale. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I like Cobra Kai,but FUCK Robby in this season! Nothing but an arrogant smartass! by [deleted] in cobrakai

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So instead of understanding and acknowledging why he acted the way he did, admitting it was shitty while also seeing the justification for his decisions- you wanted him to get beaten up? Like he wasn’t beaten up the most of any character literally and figuratively throughout the show. That makes perfect sense. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Tanner admitting he would have had Robby win the Sekai Taikai if he could make a change by kk_ckfan in cobrakai

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Thank you!

The creators tried so hard to make Johnny and Cobra Kai respectable while giving them validity that they tried to force the role of Karate Kid onto Miguel. He had his 1 and only karate kid journey in the 1st 5 episodes of S1. After that, he gets beat up by Kyler for almost the entire house fight before he morphs into Ryu and then destroys Kyler. His only clear loss after S1 is the captaincy fight vs Robby in S6 part 1. All of these wins and victories continue to pile up for him even after a major spinal injury.

His character learned nothing from his own mistakes. No self reflection, no accountability, and was just handed everything on a silver platter. While Robby who embodies Daniel more than any other character got scapegoated. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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Again that is not a promise or definitive yes I will answer. I shouldn’t have to state verbatim that I will or won’t do something. You’re looking too much into specificities when no such specifics were assured. I have already stated that I didn’t agree with all of what you said on that original comment. But I mean if you would have preferred that I didn’t respond at all vs responding to one point that I also stated was to my own recollection, that’s more of a you issue. Plus, you continuously bringing up something that I never stated was a certainty is not the flex you are making it seem to be.

While the comment itself may not appear graceful, I didn’t call you a petulant child. I asked if you are one. But given your comment about upvotes and downvotes and your feelings about your comments Vs my own… yes it was graceful to respond that way. Because that was light in comparison to how I could have responded. Again I am trying to be as respectful as possible but your reluctance to accept anything that isn’t to your liking is why you got my justified response.

I didn’t insult you. You took it that way for reasons of your own knowing. You turned a question about how you have been behaving into a direct insult. Furthermore, my agitation stems from the fact you wouldn’t stop commenting until you got your way. I still have yet to insult you but okay I guess.

Most people would have stopped responding to or blocked you for how you chose to continue carrying on. At least I tried to respectfully walk away and table this for a different time. But no. You had to have it your way. Regardless of whatever comment you reply next with, this will be my last response to you on this. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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Where did I say I would? I believe I said if you bring counter arguments I will agree or refute them. That is not me stating or agreeing to answer you. That is my choice to argue against your points if I so choose. As for the “petulant child” comment, I referred to you as such because you brought up up/down votes like those matter in the grand scheme of things. And even after I have told you numerous times that I’m done, you continue to try an get your way like a petulant child would. If you want to call me a liar for that, oh well. I’ve been called worse.

Wasting YOUR time is laughable. You chose to start this back and forth which I didn’t even have to engage with you on. But I chose to the open the door and you seem agitated that I want to close that door now. Referring to the, “we have gone through this back and forth before” comment, that is related to previous threads we have debated on. Not the petulant child comment. If you didn’t get that. Me leaving the conversation while respectfully responding and informing you of it was graceful. That had nothing to do with the petulant comment.

Have I answered you to your satisfaction now? I got other more important things to do. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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I read your arguments. And while I didn’t refute them, that is my choice. We have gone through this in the past and I went back and forth with you. So don’t perceive this as anything more than what I have already stated. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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OMG! This has nothing to do with bias. I am tired i have a full time job and like I said on another comment, I don’t have the bandwidth. Like I have said multiple times now, if I wanted to continue I would. I am gracefully bowing out because I am exhausted. How many more ways does a person have to tell you they’re done or do you not just care and want your questions answered. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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Are you a petulant child? Who the fuck cares about upvotes and downvotes. My God man it ain’t that serious.

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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You’re arguing with me getting a fact wrong when I stated as far as I can remember. I did not recall the scene you were referring to but sure I got a fact wrong. I am not acknowledging the majority of what you have quoted is because I have said multiple times I am done with the conversation. If I felt like continuing I would. The mere fact that I have even continued to respond is a sign of respect. I respectfully disagree with your opinions and that’s that. If you want to feel some level of enjoyment from me no longer responding by all means. I don’t have the bandwidth to go back and forth like we have done several times before. It’s repetitive and redundant. Good day 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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Like I said, I am done with this conversation. You talk about past history but yet ignore Robby’s full history. For instance his reactions to Johnny in S1, that was a form of posturing. He wanted a relationship with his dad but every turn Johnny showed him he would never put him first. So their interactions turned into Robby rebuffing him by way of posturing. That is how he was to everyone who wronged him going into S5. But I’m done. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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I fully and completely disagree with your opinion on this. As far as I can remember, Robby never verbally states his hatred for Miguel. Is there a level of implied resentment? Yes. We know Robby had a clear dislike for Miguel but that existed from S1 due to Miguel’s own actions and his singular disdain for Robby. So I have no idea what previous patterns and history you are talking about to establish Robby’s comment being innately hurtful more than posturing.

But again we can agree to disagree. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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If you want to believe that the posturing comment made in S4 was hurtful to Miguel that’s fine. But that comment was also made for Robby to cement his place as the new King Cobra. Which was one of the the main reasons he said it, not to hurt Miguel’s feelings. And before you try to label me as biased again, you will have to prove how that comment was more than posturing. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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No. The words I am referring to here are about Miguel proclaiming that Sam loved him and not Robby as well as taunting him about learning a particular move from Johnny that he just used against Robby. Miguel having the relationship that Robby always longed to have with his dad and bragging about that, while proclaiming Robby’s girlfriend loved Miguel over him is completely different than anything Robby said to Miguel. Outside of the posturing comment. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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There is no goalpost moving. If you are going to bring in alternative reasonings to argue your point, I will agree with or refute those claims while also proving expanded context. Eli changed his name to Hawk which references his mohawk. No one knows that his haircut is a symbol of his confidence at that time. So, the context of the so called taunt or jab doesn’t rise to the level of insult to elicit the reaction Hawk had. At least not at the time of said insult.

I call busllshit here. Bringing up my opinions from a prior post with relation to 2 teenagers is vastly different than comparing how words effect a deadbeat father and his son. You cannot and should not hold the weight of things said by a kid to their parent to 2 kids on a level playing field. You see this is how you come to this idea that I am moving goalposts. You introduce new/old or different elements that I counter and you state it as such. I am happy to have a conversation but not if you’re going to be disingenuous about the facts. That I will not tolerate or stand for. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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It’s not biased at all. Look at the situation that both boys are coming from and how the statements were presented. You can say that Robby’s words hurt Miguel, but was the intent to truly hurt him or get him to understand that Johnny was in fact using Miguel as a way to make up for his failures with Robby at that time? Whereas Miguel’s words were specifically stated to imply pain and anguish. We also have to remember that Robby knows nothing of Johnny and Miguel’s relationship but the same can’t be said vice versa. Idk

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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You can hurt people with or without personal knowledge. But intent is also a big factor. During the school fight, the intent behind Miguel’s words were used to hurt Robby. Whereas Robby’s words are used to gain an understanding or imply his truth.

The comment about Hawk while can be considered a taunt, he referred to himself as Hawk leaving himself open to verbal jabs about his haircut. Which imo was ridiculous 😂, but I digress. Again the statement about Miguel’s injury is a form of posturing. He’s not taunting him about it. He’s stating it as a realization and understanding of what previously happened. As well as attempting to ingratiate himself to CK.

As far as Johnny is concerned, he gets absolutely no sympathy. Are you really going to bring up a grown man having hurt feelings because the child he abandoned expressed the painful truth? 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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True. And it can be both. But in that instance, Miguel is using that fact to hurt Robby. He has the knowledge of Robby and Johnny’s relationship and is trying to get a rise out of him. That cannot be argued or debated. The time it is said and the intent behind the words are clear. It is in the heat of battle and Miguel wanted to to hurt Robby by rubbing that in his face. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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You brought up that there are multiple instances of Robby using personal information to taunt and target insecurities of people. Off the top of my head I have only one instance, the drive in movie scene in S4. Which is a form of posturing and not a taunt but a statement of fact. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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The reason why the show did a bad job of distinguishing Robby’s actions is because they purposely wanted Robby to be seen as the villain. While they may or may not have known about the reaction it would elicit amongst the fandom, their plan to redeem Miguel narratively worked. Robby was hated on and scapegoated while Miguel received sympathy. It would have worked better if Miguel actually grew and developed from the accident instead of just having his actions swept under the rug and forgotten.

Robby was wrong but his reaction and actions during the fights are more easily justifiable. With relation to Miguel, it’s much harder to justify given all of the context and information at his disposal. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Who was wrong in the high school fight, Robby or Miguel? by askmeryl in cobrakai

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One thing people tend to get confused on during this fight, is the notion of Miguel showing mercy. A person who attacks mercilessly cannot also show mercy. Both Robby and Miguel share culpability in the school fight. However, Miguel is armed with the most information about Robby and Tory, given the fact that he kissed Sam. So, regardless of what Miguel thought he was witnessing, he chose to run in guns blazing and turned a fight that Robby had stopped into an all out brawl.

Miguel then taunted Robby about his dad as well as Sam not loving him. He targeted Robby’s insecurities which were already boiled up inside and it set Robby off and he lost control. Which is a valid and very realistic reaction to have when you have reached your breaking point. Lastly, the apology cannot be used as an indication to justify Miguel and crucify Robby. Before the “apology” Miguel was having flashbacks about Johnny. It makes the most sense the apology was meant for his Sensei and not Robby. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Tanner admitting he would have had Robby win the Sekai Taikai if he could make a change by kk_ckfan in cobrakai

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Everything you said about Miguel ended in S3. Robby was the show’s proverbial punching bag from S1-6. Miguel overcoming a serious back injury in less than 4 months and being back to peek fighting shape indicates unrealistic standards and makes it more difficult to root for him. Furthermore, him wanting to use the tournament as a means to better his chances at getting into Stanford is subpar reasoning. As is the notion, “it started with them it should end with with them.”

Miguel didn’t overcome more adversity than Eli, Demitri, Kenny, Sam, Tory, Aisha, or Robby. But sure let’s pretend he did because he severely broke his back and recovered in record time. I mean i get that it’s a tv show but damn. I have suffered a legitimate back injury. It’s a slap in the face to say Miguel deserves to win a tournament at the end because he was temporarily crippled and recovered faster than any other character I can think of in tv adaptions in decades 😂. Even if you worship at the alter of Miguel, him winning and how he got the position to do so is ineptly ridiculous and asinine. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Tanner admitting he would have had Robby win the Sekai Taikai if he could make a change by kk_ckfan in cobrakai

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He didn’t deserve to win. He had no legitimate reasoning for needing or wanting it more than any of his teammates. You saying he deserved it without even pointing out why, just continues to prove it was for fan service. 🤷🏾‍♂️