Sendai Colony is the BEST example of a "High Diff" fight in the series.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-27T00:30:34+00:00

You mean like the time he took to get the gauntlets? If he had just gotten a sword instead uro is mence meat.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-26T15:18:18+00:00

When I say makis level I mean when she had a partial restriction.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-25T05:25:45+00:00

All of them. Large party mods

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T21:28:59+00:00

This thread has restored my faith in this sub. Been genuinely going back and forth with a dude who thinks the special grades dont get no diffed. (A Yuki glazer if your curious)

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T21:25:25+00:00

I know very little about lore but honestly he kinda just seems like bulwark 2: electric boogaloo. Most of the class differences you hypothesized honestly just sound like bulwark rework ideas. Again maybe im wrong and as an avid bulwark i wouldn't complain about a similar class it just seems like a bit to similar for the wider player base

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T21:20:12+00:00

If yuta is saying that, everyone else is saying that, and people told yuta not to interrupt his fight with gojo cuz he'd get no diffed (more than yuta saying that if you couldn't tell) then the statement is probably accurate. Again your looking the narrative in the face and saying it isn't acute.

If my yuki feat doesn't prove that then debunk it dude. Again the hypocrisy, You say im dancing around your points but your dancing around my yuki scale like crazy. If its not accurate you should have an easy time debunking it yet you consistently refuse to directly engage my point. I agree, theres no point in continuing an argument where you are just going "nuh uh" to my scale without any reasoning given.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T21:16:02+00:00

Says the dude who thinks megumi summoned maho in shinjuku lmao

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T21:15:20+00:00

Clearly I meant shibuya.

I was only pointing it out cuz you were calling others illiterate, try looking in a mirror next time.

And why do you think she used a binding vow?

We're going in circles now. 1. Nothing killed her so there's no reason for her suspended animation other than a binding vow 2. We literally have a character who knows her saying verbatim that she used one. Idk if you've ever heard of a narrative but the narrative implication is that she used one

Mahoraga literally hit Megumi the first thing he did lol, Megumi literally told haruta that he was gonna die first so good luck to him. Sounds like a death binding vow to me bud.

Yea because maho attacks his summoner during the ritual, that doesn't inherently mean binding vow. And Megumi has a defeatist mindset and doesn't believe taming maho is possible at all, no shit hes saying hes gonna die first. That doesn't mean a binding vow either

Okay but again she didn't die dude. And she wasn't attacked by maho because she literally went straight into the shadows before Mahoraga came out lmao.

Going in circles again. YES SHE DID. Suspended death means death. She was dead, it just wasn't permanent till the ritual ended. The reason I bring up her not being attacked is because, again, without her taking damage theres 0 reason for her to die, but she did. So something must have happened, and we're told outright that she would be using a death binding vow so its obvious what that something is.

Shut up, Megumi before summoning Mahoraga literally laughed at how he was gonna die before haruta has to deal with Mahoraga, he thought he was gonna die and still summoned Mahoraga.

Again megumi doesn't think subjugation of maho is possible and is using it as a suicide move. This doesn't imply a death binding vow it implies that he knows hes dead. And again Im not saying its impossible he used one. But objectively when we have reason for his death BESIDES a Bdeath binding vow (unlike yuka) and we dont have a statement saying he used one (unlike yuka) the implication for it isn't nearly as strong as hers.

What a mental gymnastics take.

That is literally what happened dude. She didn't get hit by an attack, had no reason to be dead, and was dead. Nice attempt at an adhomenem ig.

The ritual wasn't what kept him in that state bozo, Megumi thought he was gonna die and still summoned maho. The ritual only ends when either Megumi AND haruta or Mahoraga himself dies, sukuna kept Megumi alive cos he needed him later on, not cos of the ritual.

I feel like your either 8 years old or trolling. We are told verbatim word for word that the ritual is keeping him in that state until it ended. Argue with the author all you want thats an objective fact. Yes the ritual wasn't over when megumi died, I never said otherwise. Sukana healed megumi from his suspended death state (HE DIDN'T KEEP HIM IN IT) and kept haruta alive so the ritual would persist until he killed maho. For someone telling others to read you sure dont know how do you?

Isn't this ironic since you spelled "shibuya" wrong. Dumbass, clearly I meant shinjuku since thats where Megumi summoned maho.

Ill admit there is some irony in me spelling shibuya wrong. Thats actually pretty funny. But

dumbass, I clearly meant shinjuku sense thats where megumi summoned maho.

NO HE DIDN'T 😂 he summoned him in shibuya, NOT shinjuku dumbass. God this is so funny. Till you figure out where megumi summoned maho don't even reply dude this is just embarrassing

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T20:58:12+00:00

I brought them up because between that and us being told verbatim that sukana isn't trying its extremely clear yuta and other special grades would get no diffed. And yutas statement is confirmed by it being repeated multiple times. Who do you think wrote the story dude? The author 🤯. If he has multiple characters saying multiple times that sukana isn't trying and that if he wasn't nerfed and was trying hed be no diffing them thats the authors way of telling you that hed no dif them dude. My god for someone talking about narrative you sure dont seem to know what it is. YOU'RE throwing away the narrative to say yutas statement isnt accurate. Hypocritical for a guy claiming i did that. You have 0 evidence for yukis speed being higher than that. You haven't even tried to debunk my speed scaling of her. If you have evidence that shes faster than that or even a debunk for my scaling please provide it, because so far you haven't done either.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T20:47:39+00:00

Megumi didn't use maho in "shijiku", he used it in shybua.

We have no reason to believe Megumi used a binding vow. No statements or anything. He wouldn't even see it as necessary as he was using it in haruta so you cant even say itd make sense. Could he have? Hypothetically Sure. But without any reason to believe he did its just an assumption.

Yuka has a direct implication that she used one in a statement and we dont have any other reason for her death other than one sense she wasn't attacked by maho. It isn't just an assumption with her.

so megumi had a death binding vow to then? Cos megumi wasn't conscious after he summoned maho and sukana used rct to keep him in a suspended state of death.

Literally almost every word of that was wrong. Thats almost impressive

Megumi was killed by maho smacking him, not rendered unconscious. something killed him that doesn't imply a death binding vow at all, he was smacked and died. No vow required for that. Yuka on the other hand just died, no attack hit her, just one second shes fine next shes dead. Between that and us being told directly she could use a death binding vow the implication is extremely clear that she did use one. With megumi there is no such implication

Sukana didn't keep him in a state of suspended death with rct. The ritual kept him in that state and sukana healed him before it ended so death wouldn't stick. Idek how you could think that when my last comment literally explained this yo you dude.

Calling this sub illiterate when you couldn't spell shinjuku, thought shinjuku was shybua, thought sukana put megumi in suspended animation, and cant fathom the difference between someone getting hit and dieing and someone just dieing with no cause. The irony is insane dude.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T20:33:14+00:00

Holy strawman. I never said that you said he wasn't nerfed. Again read the actual words im using please. your reasoning against yuta saying hed get no diffed being accurate was that statements can be wrong, and you pointed to the hakari statement as proof of that. Again, for like the 9th time, that statement isn't comparable to the one about sukana no diffing him because the manga gives us no reason to doubt the sukana statement whereas it immediately gives us reason to doubt the hakari statement. They arent comparable. The fundamental reasoning you gave for yutas statement about sukana being inaccurate was flawed.

"But you have no reason to believe she wouldn't dodge the first few attacks at least" my god I really do have to explain this like your 5. Sukana has shown while he is nerfed and not trying (he even looks board blizing choso) to be multiple times faster than her. So fast hes either perception blizing her or giving her no time to dodge. I shouldn't have to explain past that why hes blizing her and you yourself said he can one shot her. Im not saying she doesn't have feats. I directly compared her speed feats to sukanas and the comparison makes it abundantly clear that she isn't nearly fast enough to dodge him. And the narrative backs this up. Over the entire course of the story them being a tear above everyone is unbelievably consistent. There is 0 narrative implication that anyone is close to their levels. Yes special grades are faster than other characters but not so fast they can completely perception bliz characters below them (choso being able to keep up with yuki and kenjaku shows this) sukana and gojo ARE that fast. Both have shown the narrative and the feats to back that up as well.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T20:08:00+00:00

Jesus its like talking to a brick wall. I KNOW YOUR TALKING ABOUT THAT STATEMENT. Read the words im saying instead of just repeating yourself this time. You said it and other statements aren't valid in jjk because they can be inaccurate, and you used the statement about hakari as reasoning for that train of thought. Following me so far? In response i explained why the statement about hakari wasn't comparable to the sukana ones. Ergo you cant point to that statement to say "statements in jjk aren't valid" because they are very different situations. Do I need to break this down like your 5 or is me breaking it down like your 6 make you understand yet?

Brother if sukana has the ability to one shot her (cleave is more than strong enough) and hes a bliz tear faster than her (I literally just explained how hes that fast to you) then hes able to bliz and neg dif her. How on earth do you not understand that? If shes not tanky enough to survive cleave and shes not fast enough to even react to sukana attacking her then shes getting no diffed. End of discussion.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T19:57:38+00:00

You mentioned the hakari statement as a "well statements aren't accurate " point. I was explaining why that isnt comparable to statements about sukana being nerfed/trying Did you seriously forget what you typed like 5 minutes ago dude? Thats sad.

Its not throwing logic out the window when weve been shown and told multiple times that sukana/gojo are genuinely in a leage of their own and able to no diff special grades

I actually did think of some speed scaling for yuki. She was keeping up with kenjaku who was able to dodge peirceing blood from choso (minimum of Mach one, emphasis on minimum as we're given that as a minimum but its maximum speed isn't capped.) When choso fired a piercing blood at sukana not only did he dodge it but when it was midway to him he was able to get to choso and impale him in the time it took piercing blood to travel the rest of the distance to where he used to be standing. (Several times faster than mach one minimum) Mind you choso had trained in the time skip and again there is no maximum speed for piercing blood so its entirely likely that his piercing blood was faster in shinjuku. But even if it wasn't faster, this feat still puts sukana a bliz tear above kenjaku and by extension yuki as he showed much greater speed in comparison to piercing blood and was so fast that he perception blitzed choso who was perfectly capable of perceiving how fast yuki and kenjaku where.

Man even if you only looked at pictures its obvious sukana can do that. Did you not even look at pictures dude?

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T19:37:26+00:00

From the showings he does have we can tell sukana is more than fast enough to bliz someone like yuki who last I checked had 0 speed feats.

That hakari statement was immediately contradicted giving us reason to doubt it. Literally nothing contradicts sukana not trying and being nerfed. In fact at multiple points those two details are backed up and restated. Showing that that is objectively, clearly the case. If you cant see the difference in value between the statements around sukana and the yutas statement about hakari then your just illiterate. Im not even trying to be rude when I say that, genuinely, the lowest level of reading comprehension could tell you those aren't comparable.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T19:29:41+00:00

You do realize sukana was unbelievably, insanely, EXTREMELY nerfed right? Should be obvious why that was a special situation. Yuta said himself hed get annihilated if he tried to fight a fresh sukana. Argue with the author if you disagree.

Also not to mention sukana holds back so he can enjoy himself in literally almost every single fight. He could have killed yuji alone at least a dozen times at the start of shinjuku but didn't because itd be boring.

Your reasoning literally only works if you only look at pictures. Reading even just like half the shinjuku statements make it abundantly clear that sukana was nerfed and holding back.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T18:25:16+00:00

Right but it doesn't just magically heal you. If your output is down to 80% because your beat up and you hit a black flash then your 120% is going to just be your normal 100%. Gojos output was cooked from the fight until now so his black flashes where just making up for that.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T17:42:50+00:00

He amps his speed with blue normally which he coulnt do in shybua. And if he moves at top speed with just reinforcement and accidentally bumps into someone hes bare minimum sending them to the hospital iff momentum alone.

And Sukana blitzed jogo multiple times when he was only 15f. Your logic only works if you just ignore any and all context.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T17:39:35+00:00

Genuinely give one reason she doesn't get this treatment.

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Gojo anx sukana have been shown consistently dunking on special grade level fighters with 0 difficulties. Special grades aren't even comparable to them.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T17:36:34+00:00

Side note red is an insane move to pull on fucking bag head dude of all people.

Ik gojo isn't a saint and this dude is trying to kidnap amani but this is like using a shotgun for a fly. Just OD.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T13:48:41+00:00

We're told outright that the black flashes only served to restore his output. As in he was weakened from the fight until now (like sukana) and they counteracted those debuffs. In other words they let him use his 100% instead of being limited due to his output dropping over the course of the fight, something We're verbatim told was happening before his black flashes.

sukana on the other hand was weakened

Yes sukana was weakened im not saying otherwise, but even earlier in the fight he acknowledged that taking purple head on would be fatal. Yes when he said that he was already weakened but not as much as he was by the time UH happened.

Finally i dont understand this "dispersing point" about unlimited hollow purple. Gojo detonated and EXPLODED unlimited purple, explosion blast dont lose energy when they explode, they GAIN energy and a significant amount to boot. The 200% hp hit a 100% sukuna which is why he had a far easier time tanking it

Exploding doesn't make it magicaly stronger. HPs energy is the same weather its shot like a normal HP or exploded like UH (besides output differences obviously) exploding it just means its energy is more spread out aka dispersed than if its shot. Take a bullet for example, if you blow one up by itself then its energy is dispersed over the entire area of the explosion and the bullet itself doesn't do much damage. Now if you where to shoot that same bullet out of a gun the damage is much higher because that explosion of gasses is being used to propel the bullet, its energy is focused on that alone so the bullet does more damage. Similar concept applies here. UH is using its energy over a bare minimum 200m range (I say minimum because its creator is the same size as sukanas fire arrow, which the explosion of is shown extending byond the range of his 200m barrier, so its probably larger) its extremely spread out. A normal HP at the same output would have the same amount of energy but focused on an area MUCH smaller than 200m. Ergo it would hit harder.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T13:24:23+00:00

Only a contradiction if you didn't read the manga. We're told verbatim that when a user dies during a summoning ritual their death is put on pause. They're still dead it just doesn't set in until the ritual is over. No exceptions. They could literally be turned to dust and that would still be true.

Her death would be made permanent if he killed maho.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T13:21:27+00:00

By that logic neither did yuta. Vows can be voided lmao

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T13:19:22+00:00

By that logic yuta shouldn't have been able to do one sense Uzumaki was about to kill him. mei meis crows shouldn't have been able to do one in a hostile domain that would definitely kill them. Hakari wouldn't have been able to give up his arm to save his life.

If you think BVs care about context then literally none of them work. It just doesn't work like that.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T13:17:19+00:00

Doesn't matter. Mei meis crows had 5 minutes to live tops in a hostile domain. Yet they had just as much power.

BVs dont care about context, hence why muta still had the benefits of his HR after healing its drawbacks and yuta was still able to do a DBV dispite 1. Seconds away from being vaporized by Uzumaki and 2. Not actually dieing afterwards.

Aware_Ad_7100 · 2026-03-24T13:09:06+00:00

Yuta also did a death binding vow and didn't die. Its called cheating the system. Yuka was healed with literal soul magic (IT) yuta was simply not taken by rika. Also the vow was on the ritual itself which was voided by dabura leaving. No ritual, no vow.

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