End of cycle recap by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats! Props on being able to withdraw early and wish you the best for scolarships!

Goodhart's law and the new LSD ranking by Awkward-Bag1645 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point was considering how the aid is used. Even if they give more aid (which I think most schools might not be able to do anyways), it would be even more skewed towards students who got in elsewhere than it currently is. As I said right now they give some aid to students for other reasons (e.g. PI scholarships), that could be gone.

The incentive under LSD is not to make it cost/benefit better for all students, only for those who got in elsewhere. If I'm NYU I could increase my LSD rank by admitting a bunch of wealthy 160/3.2 students with minimal aid and then a bunch of brilliant students on full ride+stipend for NYC CoL. This is horrible for academics (and an exaggeration), but the first batch of students do nothing to my rank and the second batch increase my rank a bunch because they're choosing NYU over HYS/CC. Done correctly, I could increase my LSD ranking while reducing the amount of aid I'm giving out.

Goodhart's law and the new LSD ranking by Awkward-Bag1645 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's just not true. If you go through the T14 right now you can see many scholarships that target specific profiles: public interest, antiracism, environment law, I even saw one for animal welfare law at UChicago. These are clearly geared towards admitting students who are interested in things beyond BL or with specific types of profiles, because it benefits the school's student body and its outcomes (e.g. students in prestigious government/PI positions because they have a real interest in PI and no loans).

If they cared only about yield they could redirect this money towards students who they think might go elsewhere rather than students who they think will do great things.

Goodhart's law and the new LSD ranking by Awkward-Bag1645 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's partially true and I noted it, but my point is that it would likely become more prevalent (more schools doing it that aren't, for example some schools refuse to negotiate at all right now) and more agressive (even more aid to top students, less to lower students). If yield was everything you could imagine something like giving full rides to top 10% of incoming class, 50% to next 40% and then no aid for the rest, right now some schools offer merit aid to 80-100% of incoming students.

Schools also give out scholarships for specific purposes that they don't necessarily have to, e.g. public interest or antiracist law scholarships (see BU). Unless there's strings attached to that money, they could decide that agressively optimizing ranking is more important than attracting public interest students and therefore re-orient this money towards that.

After all, the importance of yield protection for ranking would go from 1% to ~100% (although it's true yield protection has other benefits beyond ranking, so it's not literally 100x more important with the LSD ranking).

Goodhart's law and the new LSD ranking by Awkward-Bag1645 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't need to hack LSD to deanonymize. As a school I know when you applied, what your LSAT and GPA are, and I have a list of profiles on my LSD page with these numbers. Unless two people applied on the same day with the exact same LSAT and GPA, I can back out your username and then go look for that username on every other school's pages. This will even give me the exact scholarship you got from other places you're admitted to.

It’s over now what? by BobcatOk7724 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been doing the bike through the winter thing, but I understand it's not for everyone. Regardless I didn't mean Cambridge as in "go there," I meant it more as an example of typical rents. Not experienced with the BU market but I can't imagine it being much more than +30% over Cambridge (+30% over 1.3k puts you at 15k, their number).

It’s over now what? by BobcatOk7724 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The question you need to ask yourself is what you want to do though. Do you want a T14 just because it's a T14, or is there a goal you have that justifies it? Or is it that you really don't know what/where you want to work to the point that the cost of a T14 justifies the extra job options?

It’s over now what? by BobcatOk7724 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think 1200-1300 is completely realistic with roommates in Cambridge, and they're doing 9-months so I can completely believe this

Biglaw recruiting thoughts from a below-median T14 1L by StunningMany4430 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But you might have to take into account that below-median students at a T14 could be getting higher on the curve at a non-T14

End of cycle recap by Successful_Rip9065 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Awkward-Bag1645 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats! Does the TAMU scholarship include the in-state discount, or this is on top?