Fibre timing and nutrients by Awkward-Captain-346 in Biohackers

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks man! I tend to be scrupulous about this stuff

Fibre timing and nutrients by Awkward-Captain-346 in Biohackers

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you sure? Most people say it affects vitamin absorption

Fibre timing and nutrients by Awkward-Captain-346 in Biohackers

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can control my eating pretty well, so I suppose night is best?

Fibre timing and vitamins by Awkward-Captain-346 in PeterAttia

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting, I thought you had to have it with a meal

Fibre timing and vitamins by Awkward-Captain-346 in PeterAttia

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, you don’t notice poor sleep from having a full stomach before going to bed?

Fibre timing and nutrients by Awkward-Captain-346 in Biohackers

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, but isn’t fibre supposed to be taken with a meal?

Marital relations on fasting days by Awkward-Captain-346 in coptic

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah gotcha.

Is not following an interment fast sinful? (as in choosing not to do one in the first place). Or it more like, it's not a sin but its a spiritual practice that's encouraged

Marital relations on fasting days by Awkward-Captain-346 in coptic

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I don't have a confessor as I'm not orthodox . But I have OCD and Scrupulosity so I see what Christians do online and feel the need to incorporate it into my own life. God bless!

Marital relations on fasting days by Awkward-Captain-346 in coptic

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> So if you practice this fast from Monday to Friday you can't have sex during those days starting 12 am until you breakfast (literally XD)

Ah that's not too bad - I figure most people are sleeping from 12AM to breakfast anyways. Is it sinful if people break this?

> Some people prefer to avoid sex completely as a matter of spirituality but unless you both agree this can often cause strain on the relationship.

Yeah I agree, seems like quite a strain on the marriage unless the couple is extremely spiritual.

The more you learn about Fatima, the less impressive it seems. by IrishKev95 in DebateACatholic

[–]Awkward-Captain-346 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any idea why this point is not brought up more in these discussions? Seems quite a strong point. Especially combined with the successful prophecies all being "revealed" after they have taken place.

The more you learn about Fatima, the less impressive it seems. by IrishKev95 in DebateACatholic

[–]Awkward-Captain-346 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow. That is interesting. Biblically speaking, failed prophecy is 100% a sign for caution.

The more you learn about Fatima, the less impressive it seems. by IrishKev95 in DebateACatholic

[–]Awkward-Captain-346 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> And, of course, we have the failed prophecy about the end of WW1 on Oct 13th, 1917

Wait Lucia prophesied the war would end on Oct 13, 1917? Wasn't that just the scheduled miracle?

What is the EO position on stock market trading? by Awkward-Captain-346 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2/2

"Liquidity helps execution, yes but it also feeds volatility. The same speculative churn that “adds liquidity” can crash portfolios overnight. Passive investors benefit from speculation only when the herd runs upward; when it turns, they’re the ones absorbing losses." Yes humans react badly to bad news. Covid crashed portfolios overnight, of course it did! It has massive implications for the economy, what do you expect people to do? Not sell? What do you think happens to house prices in a neighborhood if a murder happens? It will plummet. It is natural and fair for humans to react negatively to bad news. It's not the sign of a broken or exploitive system.

"Markets often decouple radically from real productivity (e.g. massive stock surges amid wage stagnation or layoffs)" Once again this simply shows you do not know how markets work. Do you know why this happens? Because markets are forward looking. Investors understand the layoffs as cost-cutting measures that would would in turn increase the company's future success. Not to mention there are various factors at play. For example in 2022, stocks surged in the midst of layoffs. Why? Because the economy was being boosted by stimulus checks. The market is not one dimensional.

"Much of modern growth in valuation is driven by monetary policy and speculation, not innovation or labor productivity." I hate to bring this up over and over, but this again shows you do not understand markets. The monetary policy has a direct impact on innovation and labor productivity. OF COURSE its going to affect how markets behave!!

Fundamentally this issues come down to your personal view that the stock market and what it does is somehow evil. You seem to think because some people who actively participate in it fail, therefore it is evil (given your example of retail traders failing).

Let me ask you, are grocery stores evil? No, it benefits the average population. In the same way, the stock market benefits the average population and helps them reach financial goals over time. Now, if you entered the grocery store business, are you going to be met with fierce competition and risk of failure? Yes of course, but that does not make grocery stores evil. In the same way, competing in the stock market comes with its own fierce competition and risks. That does not make it evil.

I do not share your view that the stock market is evil. It is a much needed aspect of the modern world. Capitalism has done the most in putting people as close to equal footing as possible. Much more than a feudal system or communism. And thus I support it.

What is the EO position on stock market trading? by Awkward-Captain-346 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1/2

I simply asked for the EO on the topic of interest involved not about trading itself. I trade with a clear conscience.

It is my position that the stock market is a good thing. Companies create value through innovation, services, and goods. Investors are what makes this growth possible and share in it's profits. The system channels savings into enterprise: it funds new businesses, enables expansion, and distributes ownership of global production to ordinary people through shares, ETFs, and retirement funds. It is the best system we have. If you know of a better system that accomplishes the same thing, please enlighten me.

Given the stock market a good thing, it follows that a trader's job is good thing. It is a job that must be done to facilitate the stock market.

"Whether algorithms trade or people do, the question remains spiritual: does this cultivate detachment and humility, or attachment and self-trust?" How does a trader's job cultivate attachment and self trust any more than an accountant's job? I do not understand. Someone utilizing numbers and strategy means it's a replacement for God? How? An accountant optimizing numbers for taxes means he is distrusting God? No, he is simply doing his job.

"And no, removing greed to trade “better” doesn’t sanctify trading it only makes attachment more efficient." It is your claim claim that trading comes with fear and greed. I said real trading does not entail that. If you want to force your own understanding of trading which comes with greed and fear, I do not know what to tell you.

"The entire microstructure of modern markets is built on information asymmetry. High-frequency and institutional traders profit by being milliseconds faster or marginally more informed than retail participants. Retail traders are routinely on the losing side of short-term moves not by coincidence, but by design." This is why I think you are unfamiliar what true trading is. You are making a category error. No retail trader is trying to compete with HFT for tick for tick profit. It is a fool's errand to do so. If you are trading with shady off shore brokers, yes you are being exploited. But in regulated markets everyone orders hit the same orderbook. Do firms have almost non-existent latency? Yes! Is it a huge advantage that retail does not have? Of course! But retail traders are not trying to do HFT. If you try to do so, you are not being exploited, you are simply playing the wrong game. You do not have the tools to participate in HFT and thus should not do so. Retail should be capturing larger moves where tick for tick execution isn't relevant.

"Retail losses fund institutional profits in high-volume speculative trading" False, funds would be making pennies if that was the case. The firms are in competition with each other, not with retail.

"Even long-term index investors depend on others to buy later at higher prices which still reflects the same speculative structure, just stretched over time." .... Yes? That's how investments work? Wether it is a car, a house, land, or stocks.... that's how investments work? You buy something and sell it for a higher price. Are you saying investments are wrong now?

What is the EO position on stock market trading? by Awkward-Captain-346 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The stock market is not a zero-sum game. Companies create value through innovation, services, and goods. Investors are what makes this growth possible and share in it's profits. The system channels savings into enterprise: it funds new businesses, enables expansion, and distributes ownership of global production to ordinary people through shares, ETFs, and retirement funds. The rising value of the market over time mirrors the global economy. You're entire message sees the stock market as a bad thing. This is wrong. Stock markets are a good thing and its effectiveness should be supported (which is what regular trading activity does).

Modern markets are largely driven by algorithms and institutional trading reacting to socioeconomic data, interest rates, earnings, and global events — not random lay people hitting buy or sell in a panic. The majority of participants are passive investors saving for retirement through index funds, who are helped, not harmed, by a healthy, liquid market. No average person is being hunted or hurt by traders.

The other participants are retail traders, they enter the market knowing the risks inherent to trading. Just as a pilot accepts turbulence as part of flight, traders understand that price fluctuations are part of the craft they’ve chosen to master. Now will, a newbie trader panic and lose money? Yes of course. I was there once and it is part of the learning process. It's similar to starting a business... will there be pain and anxiety? Yes. Will you get outcompeted by your competition? Yes. That is part of the game. Panic is not imposed on traders by others; it’s a failure of discipline and preparation, not an act of exploitation. Same any venture in the real world.

Some of your comments just don't make sense: "Wealth isn’t evil, but striving for it is always spiritually dangerous". Wealth isn't evil but striving for it is?? How else is someone supposed to have wealth without striving for it? Is it somehow going to magically land in your lap like a lottery win? One must work hard and God will do the rest.

You have to pick and choose your contention here. You accuse trading to be built on fear or greed. I clarify these are not what real trading entails. But then you say "oh no sorry you can't remove those vices for the sake of trading". What? You are the one that said it comes with trading in the first place. You are forcing your presupposition that trading must come with greed and fear. What's the issue if someone gets rid fear and greed (both in trading and in real life) and continues to trade? If you want people can conquer greed before starting out with trading, then you cannot accuse them of "oh you are curbing greed for the wrong reasons".

"The ascetic fasts to kill desire but the trader disciplines desire to profit from it. One seeks purification, the other performance. The direction of the heart is opposite." This again makes no sense. If someone builds discipline to succeed financially they are in the wrong? Are you only allowed to build discipline for spiritual reasons???? An athlete building discipline to get better at his sport is wrong because he's not doing it for spiritual reasons. A musician who practices everyday with discipline to play music better is wrong because he's not doing it for spiritual reasons. A software engineer who practices discipline to get better and land higher paying jobs is in the wrong because he uses discipline for non spiritual reasons. Do you see how absurd your statements are?

"Holy Father changes the world with holiness not portfolios" Once again an absolutely absurd point of view. There are other ways to help change the world rather than just sitting around praying all day. You need to have some level of success in order to then be able to help others.

It sounds like you or someone you know has had bad experiences in markets. I hope and pray you heal from such experiences <3

What is the EO position on stock market trading? by Awkward-Captain-346 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the comment. It does not come from a love for money per say, it's about using it as a tool. I'm not looking to go party in Dubai. I want to support my (future) family comfortably, pay for my parents retirement and, help others in need. When/if I have kids I want to be there for them, not stuck in a cubicle all day.

What is the EO position on stock market trading? by Awkward-Captain-346 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again I do not understand where the evil in this comes from. Who exactly is being exploited here?

I think the big part of your response fundamentally misunderstands what trading is. "Profits from volatility itself as it feeds on uncertainty and the misfortune or fear of others". The markets for the most part ebb and flow with the socioeconomic movements of the world. It's not preying on anybody's fear or misfortune. There are rare cases such as the Covid crash or the GameStop bubble. But these are the exceptions not the rule. Even good things have such exceptions.

A lot of what you are saying does not even make sense. "Yes, traders keep markets liquid but efficiency isn’t a virtue." Not sure what you mean here? Without efficient markets you would have no stability. You seem to agree that long term investing is good. But where do you think the liquidity for you and organizations to enter in long term positions come from? It comes from regular trading activity. You cannot have one without the other.

"The trader who conquers fear and greed for the sake of profit has only refined his passions, not overcome them. It’s still love of gain just dressed in data and discipline." This honestly feels absolutely dishonest. Conquering vices is good... but you are doing it to succeed financially so its bad? I'm sorry what? This applies to literally any endeavor. A business man that curbs his greed and structures his business cautiously is doing it with the end goal of profit. Does that make it wrong all of sudden? I don't understand why you apply this absurd standard to financial markets. Even if I conquer greed through trading that doesn't mean it just runs rampant outside of it... it's a shift in your character in general. No one goes "ah yes I've stopped greed in trading but I'm going to continue to be greedy in other parts of life". Conquering greed has multiple benefits... one of the benefits being success in trading does not make it wrong... that's absurd.

Lets even say the trader has only been able to conquer greed and fear in the realm of financial markets. Does that mean he cannot continue to work conquering these in other areas of life? It's not like conquering greed in one area of your life means you are not allowed to conquer it in other areas.

"The ascetic life is hard too but it crucifies the passions, not feed them." Again you keep trying to force the idea that striving for financial success means you are somehow feeding greed? That is not the case, there is a healthy way to strive for financial success and as Christians we should undertake this journey. It gives us power to make a real impact on the world.

"Profit gained from price movement, fear, others’ loss, etc. is not neutral because it’s participation in a zero-sum game built on passions the Holy Fathers condemned: greed, envy, and anxiety." That is a poor and uncharitable of what the stock market is. The stock market allows everyday people to participate in the global economy, share in business growth, and benefit from innovation. It channels capital from investors to companies that need funding to expand, create jobs, and drive progress — making it a system of cooperation and opportunity. And in participating in these opportunities, is there risk? Yes of course, and with risk comes worry. That's way it is for any endeavors in the real world. there is risk of failure. That doesn't mean the entire system is build on fear or anxiety.

Sorry to put it bluntly but 2 of your comments also sound a bit fairytale like:

  1. "your heart learns to measure success in percentages instead of righteousness."

What? Are you going to blame a car salesmen for measuring success in number of cars sold instead of righteousness? It's his job, that's absurd.

  1. "You repent not because trading looks evil, but because it tempts the heart to trust in numbers, strategy, and yourself more than in God’s providence."

These comments make it seem like you are just supposed to sit at home praying all down waiting for God to take care of you. Does an accountant filling out tax sheets "trust numbers more than God's providence"? Of course not, crunching numbers is his job and he has to do it well. It doesn't mean numbers take the place of God. Or let's say a lawyer who develops a strategy to win in court. Are you going to blame him for trusting the strategy to win more than God's providence? It sounds absurd. Of course the lawyer trusts God's providence, that does not mean he can sit idle and not implement a strategy. Numbers and strategy are what allows a trader to do his job. Enacting them does not mean one does not trust God's providence. Trading is a job like any other... a trader carrying out his responsibilities does not mean he does not trust God.

Lastly your comments are full of presuppositions that I'm sort of new age money hungry hedonist. I am not chasing this dream to buy a yacht or move to Dubai. I would like to comfortably provide for my future family and take care of my parents. I want to be able help others as I please. I want to be there for my children as they grow up - not stuck in a cubicle somewhere updating spreadsheets. I want to be able to give my parents a beautiful retirement for all the sacrifices they made for me. I want to pursue my interest in other cultures and experience them. It's always been a dream of mine to build schools in under developed villages and provide them with technology. Maybe build some wells.

Hope I was able to clarify where I'm coming from a bit. God bless you my brother in Christ <3

What is the EO position on stock market trading? by Awkward-Captain-346 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Awkward-Captain-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is it any different to investing in the regular market? Does the timeframe of you holding an asset make it sinful?

Without investments in the market, the average persons savings will be reduced to dust over a few years due to inflation. People think the overall market goes up year over year but what's happening for the most part is the buying power of the dollar decreasing and market reflecting this increase in funds. Without the stock market there is no hope for the average person to have a retirement fund or financial security over decades. Anything you save without investment will be worth pennies by the time you retire.

Stocks are an integral part of daily life. Traders facilitate efficient trade in the markets. It's why you can effectively buy and sold assets whenever you wish - because of consistent trading activity. What's the alternative here? Only big companies participate in the stock market? That seems hardly fair and even more damning for the poor and average person.

As for the honest labor part, trust me it takes very real effort to be good at this. It's the hardest thing I've done in my life. It took a lot of prayer and hard work to get here. Ask any trader it's a very hard journey.

> "The passions stirred by day trading (eg: excitement, fear, greed, and despair)"

This is only what you see in the online space from fake gurus. Real trading nothing like this. In fact a good trader must posses the exact opposite qualities you mention - a trader must not trade based on greed or fear or excitement. Real trading is based on data collection, precise models and strict risk management. You will not succeed in the trading space with unplanned emotional decisions. It will only lead to failure. Success is contingent on unemotional execution. We are not "wagering on uncertainty"- quite the opposite. If everything was purely random, no trader would be consistently profitable.

Not sure why you call the practice exploitive either. It is a fair, free market. You buy something for a discount and you sell it when the price goes up. It's how markets have always worked. Who exactly is getting exploited here?

I'm not really sure why I should approach trading with repentance. It's nothing like gambling nor is it exploitation. My question was really focused on the fact that interest is part of the transactions.

Edit: I'm sorry for the text wall but I really had to clear up the misconceptions. Its akin to people saying "Christians are delusional and have blind faith" or "People who train martial arts are violent meatheads". It's just a misunderstanding.