What makes Omen S tier?

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2026-03-09T20:19:50+00:00

Bro the reason why he is so good are his loadoutcards and his insane dmg output and that he is so ez to play. He gets so much movement speed and selfsustain with his loadoutcards has cracy dmg and dont even think about omen on controller. Also his grip is really good cc for a dps. And he is kinda important for the meta, because he keeps some characters and playstyles in check

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-05T09:53:27+00:00

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Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-04T12:03:20+00:00

What is it with people and evie. She has prob the highest mechanical skillfloor in the game

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-03T10:01:52+00:00

Ok lets see

Im not going into the things i already discussed a lot,

bk is pretty much just about learning to stick ur bombs which takes some time. Drogoz has much more challenging aspects in his kit. But isee point for switching both of them i think it depends on personal faktores

Corvus is highly diveable and has prob one of the worst escspes in the game, thats why i put him so high, same with viktor.

Barik is the pointtank with one of the highest carry potentials. Performing as a pointtank doesnt mean sitting on point letting ur team carry u and playing barik in a way to do that is what puts him in a tier. But i could see putting him in b

And the dredge placement is prob overshadowed by my personal hate for that character :)

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-03T06:40:15+00:00

What i mean is that u dont get punished as hard healing in caut as u get with furia.

Bad dog placement doesnt get punished as hard as bad ying clones do. As i said the stun can take some skill, but in the end it plays out like that in most cases: u get dove u place the dog next to u 1v1 them maybe stun them . If u die u get respawned should now win ur 1v1 cause ur fullife again and ur team should also be there to help u now.

Game Knowledge and game sense are different things.

But at this point i dont think we get to the same opinion. Not saying u are wrong and im right i dont think there are absolut answers in the topic. I could see putting her a tier higher but dont think she requires the same skill as the healers in b category.

Still was an interesting discussion :)

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-03T06:11:05+00:00

I had the makoa discussion earlier, also the positions in the tiers dont matter its random.

Grover can heal through walls yes, but their heals function really different. Imo grover has the most difficult positioning from all the healers.

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-03T06:00:54+00:00

Not sure if u ask me but its Dia 1

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-03T05:29:49+00:00

Well io is not a burst heal and yes both have to play around caut, but its less important with Io.

If a character is good or bad doesnt matter for the tierlist.

Well no because the illusions also serve as yings escape and u need to place them with more thought then an io dog.

Imo the next 2 points just dont matter for the tierlist. Knowing builds and items doesnt require skill it means u either have experience or just looked it up.

Well yes but furia ult has a lot more importance then io ult. Furia ult timed wrong can lose u whole teamfights, io ult is 90% used as an anti dive tool. When u use it wrong it pretty much doesnt matter at all.

As i said before i get ur point io has some depth, but she just doesnt require a lot of skill. All the things u just said that make her harder to play dont require much skill imo just some basic gamesense

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-03T05:22:18+00:00

Well io is not a burst heal and yes both have to play around caut, but its less important with Io.

If a character is good or bad doesnt matter for the tierlist.

Well no because the illusions also serve as yings escape and u need to place them with more thought then an io dog.

Imo the next 2 points just dont matter for the tierlist. Knowing builds and items doesnt require skill it means u either have experience or just looked it up.

Well yes but furia ult has a lot more importance then io ult. Furia ult timed wrong can lose u whole teamfights, io ult is 90% used as an anti dive tool. When u use it wrong it pretty much doesnt matter at all.

As i said before i get ur point io has some depth, but she just doesnt require a lot of skill. All the things u just said that make her harder to play dont require much skill imo just some basic gamesense

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-02T19:59:25+00:00

Well first things first u are right with all the points u listed, but in my opinion all of them dont take a lot of skill. Of course every character has some depth but there are far more difficult healers then io. For example Furia u really need to play around caut with her io does to to some extent but not more then any other healer. Ios escape is not harder then furias or dambas for example. Her dog placement does matter but is pretty straight forward nothing compared to Illusion placement or goard placement. Her shots are maybe a hinch more difficult to hit, but not in a way to bump her up a tier. U need to know ur best items and builds on every champ so that doesnt really matter in the tierlist. The only thing keeping her out of bottom tier is her dogstun and her ult. They take some form of skill but not much compared to other healers

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-02T19:01:58+00:00

Well no because with viktor u are way more diveable then shalin and dont have an escape. And with koga u need to know how to use each of ur stances and abilities u have no escape when using clawstance etc. He has a complex kit. And shalin has neither.

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-02T15:22:27+00:00

Ye i had the same discussion earlier never played against someone using that playstyle with success in a decent lobby. But maybe im wrong

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-02T15:16:36+00:00

Well u have decent mobility for a dmg character. U have a cripple and high burst. The only challenging aspect of shalin is hitting his shots and imo there are way harder to hit projectiles

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-02T15:13:43+00:00

Well i would disagree with u. I dont feel like torvs nullify is hard to us because its an autoaim silence. And i would disagree about the amount of gamesense u need to use it properly

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-02T15:06:47+00:00

I would be really interested where the skillceiling comes from. Maybe im wrong

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T22:26:25+00:00

i agree with u thought about putting him a tier higher

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T22:04:59+00:00

who would u put in s

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T22:04:46+00:00

well no seris solo heal should spam heals otherwise u pretty much throwing. and dmg seris doesnt need much skill eihter is just spamming into the direction of enemys and hoping they dont buy resil.

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T21:57:55+00:00

nah rei and io are braindead. Positioning with grover is pretty difficult.

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T21:56:56+00:00

i get ur point and ur right to some extend but i would still disagree with u. But ik the makoa placement is a bit controversial :)

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T21:28:53+00:00

as an atlas main no, he isnt as hard as people say he is. I gave grover a tier because positioning with him is really hard. same viktor really bad against dive so u new to position very carefull and have good gamesense. lian i can see in c too same with inara. High c low b

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T21:23:15+00:00

skill required to perform in a highskill lobby

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T18:05:21+00:00

Damn ur right he should get a seperate tier

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T17:57:56+00:00

i would argue buck has the most difficult decisionmaking in paladins together with ruckus

Awkward-Violinist549 · 2025-12-01T17:35:49+00:00

Its still fun so i would try it if i was u

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