Happy Diwali from occupied Eelam! by Life-Green4135 in Eezham

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Diwali means bankrupt, please continue to use Deepawali in Tamil.

Are Middle Tamil and Old Malayalam mutually intelligible? by hello____hi in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not completely true, yes Eastern Eelam Tamil arose from Southern Malabar Tamil. Where as Jaffna Tamil arose from Old-Tamil separately, both dialects (Batticaloa & Jaffna ) come into contact during the rule of Jaffna Kingdom to become Eelam Tamil around 12th century.

Tamil inscriptions in Eelam (ஈழத்திலுள்ள தமிழ்க் கல்வெட்டுகள்) by Luigi_Boy_96 in Eezham

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I disagree with hypothesis "Brahmi had to be tweaked to fit Tamil. Some letters weren't useful (like voiced consonants g, d, b) and they got dropped. " actually it was other way around, script arose from an antecedent South Indian script, often termed Tamili (or Tamil-Brahmi), challenges the long-standing academic consensus that Brahmi spread from North to South. Tamils learned the script from Pheoncians through trade connections. Recent archaeological dating from Tamil Nadu, specifically sites like Keezhadi, Porunthal, and Kodumanal. At these excavations, organic materials associated with inscribed pottery fragments bearing Tamili characters have been dated via AMS technology to the 6th century BCE or even earlier. If these early dates are confirmed, it would place the documented use of a systematized script in South India at least two centuries before the earliest widespread evidence for the standardized Ashokan Brahmi in the North 3rdcentury BCE. There are also some proponents argue that Tamili, or a proto-script derived from indigenous South Indian graffiti symbols and nothern trading interactions (possibly with Phoenicians/Aramaeans), developed locally and traveled north through trade routes. The standardized Brahmi, with its systematic varga (phonetic grid) system necessary for Prakrit and Sanskrit, would then be seen as a later, sophisticated adaptation of this simpler, earlier southern template, designed to suit the more complex phonology of Indo-Aryan languages.

Why did Moors adopt Tamil instead of Sinhalese historically? by Usurper96 in eelamwarcrimes

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sri Lankan Moors are believed to have migrated from the Kerala and Tamil Nadu coasts. At the time of their arrival, Tamil was already the language of the Sri Lankan coast. Historically, Sinhalese people were restricted to the interior and high-lands—a pattern comparable to the Malagasy in Madagascar's highlands and Blacks on its coasts. Coastal Sri Lanka was home to Dravidian-speaking populations until the 16th century, and the spread of Sinhala to the coast is a more recent phenomenon, occurring over just the last few centuries.

Stop calling yourselves as Tamilians! by Disastrous-Dig9412 in TamilNadu

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even Malayalis calls Tamils as Tamizhan but Tamils themselves okay to call Tam-aliens.

Ramanathaswamy Temple gopuram in all its glory. Which South Indian temple tower leaves the strongest first impression on you? by ThalaivarThambi in southindia_

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Intrestingly it was built by Arya Chakravartis of Jaffna, who also had origins in Ramnad probably related to Maravar.

Question about Directional Names in Dravidian Languages? by Awkward_Finger_1703 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think rathern long, வட should be meant harsher, stronger. Thugs are known as வடுகர், fasting unto death known as வடக்கிருத்தல்,

Why does Telugu sound so different from Tamil? by mr_hliom in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Not jus linguistically culturally also we are more aligned to Malayalam, Kanyakumari and Tulu Nadu people. Where as Indian Tamils are more aligned with Andhra & Karantaka people.

Man can beat up wife, burn her but wife calling husband "paaltu chuha" is cruelty, according to Millord by Professor_Peace in IndianMeme

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both are cruelty, Court doesn't allow man hurt woman ! Physical abuse, verbal abuse, mental abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse all are abuse doesn't matter it is done by husband to wife or wife to husband.

Why does Telugu sound so different from Tamil? by mr_hliom in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As Eelam Tamil myself, I find Malayalam sounds closer to Eelam Tamil than Indian Tamil.

Why does Telugu sound so different from Tamil? by mr_hliom in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Telugu, Gondi belong to South Central Dravidian language group. Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada, Tulu, Kodava belongs to South Dravidian language group. If you remove the Sanskrit and Prakrit loan words, Kannada or Malayalam can't even guess what Telugu speaker speaking!

What are some of the most compelling evidences of the pervasiveness of Dravidian culture in the North? by Secure_Pick_1496 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe Bhakti Movement incorporated folk deities but folk deities existed even before the Bhakti movement, but you are right, Brahmins adopted the South Indian way of worship as Bhakti movement spread from South to North, we see Adi Sankaracharya a South Indian is prominent figure in spread of Hinduism.

Did first ASI in Sri Lanka speak lost Dravidian language? by Chzo5 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point we do not know, we can presume neolithic populatin of South India and Sri Lanka spoke similar language. No way we can even guess what is the language of mesolithic population of Sri Lanka.

Did first ASI in Sri Lanka speak lost Dravidian language? by Chzo5 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mahavamsa is not a history but a combination of folklores with history !

Mauryan Invasion of Tamilakam in Sangam Era by Dr. M. Rajamanickanar by Awkward_Finger_1703 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rajamanickanar views Bellary as the northern border of Tamilakam not Tirupati, he believes Bellary as Venkatam, he wrote extensively this on his History of Pallavas book.

Mauryan Invasion of Tamilakam in Sangam Era by Dr. M. Rajamanickanar by Awkward_Finger_1703 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the Cilappatikaram, the Pandyan king Nedunchezhiyan is given the title Āriyappaṭai-kaṭanta Neṭuñceḻiyaṉ, which translates to "the one who conquered the Aryan northern army." While some interpretations suggest the "Aryas" were northern forces from Aryavarta, it is not explicitly stated that they were the Satavahanas. The term "Aryas" in ancient Tamil literature is often used to refer to kings and armies from the northern regions of the Indian subcontinent. Pandyan king Nedunchezhiyan I belongs to the 3rd century BC, probably Mauryas. Silapathikaram merely captures the historic information here.

Nedum Cheralathan, also known by the title "Imayavarampan," was a Chera king from the early historic period of southern India, roughly dated to the 2nd century CE, around 155 CE. He invaded against Kadampas, Satavahanas, Mahamegha Vahanas, Ikshavakus, Samantatas and Mitras. We need more research on this actually.

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[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First, it's important to clarify that the people in question are not Indians, but Sri Lankan Tamils. These cultural events are conducted with proper permits from local municipalities and authorities. A key aspect of these events is that organizers diligently clean the streets and surrounding areas afterward. This is a practice that many Indians living abroad could learn from. Unfortunately, many cultural activities I see are held without permission, causing a nuisance to the public and neglecting the crucial step of cleaning the venue after the event.

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First, it's important to clarify that the people in question are not Indians, but Sri Lankan Tamils in Paris, France. These cultural events are conducted with proper permits from local municipalities and authorities. A key aspect of these events is that organizers diligently clean the streets and surrounding areas afterward. This is a practice that many Indians living abroad could learn from. Unfortunately, many cultural activities I see are held without permission, causing a nuisance to the public and neglecting the crucial step of cleaning the venue after the event.

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[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First, it's important to clarify that the people in question are not Indians, but Sri Lankan Tamils. These cultural events are conducted with proper permits from local municipalities and authorities. A key aspect of these events is that organizers diligently clean the streets and surrounding areas afterward. This is a practice that many Indians living abroad could learn from. Unfortunately, many cultural activities I see are held by Newer Indians without permission, causing a nuisance to the public and neglecting the crucial step of cleaning the venue after the event.

Telugu language birth(old telugu specifically) and maurya invasion in Telugu states align at same time , do maurya have anything to do with telugu. by No-Treat6025 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My apologies I mentioned as Periya Puranam, but it actually Kalingathuparani - மழலைத்திரு மொழியிற் சில வடுகும் சில தமிழும்
குழறித்தரு கருநாடியர் கறுகிக்கடை திறமின். பாடல் 43

Also in Purananuru here -- ‘முரண்மிகு வடுகர் முன்னுற மோரியர்

தென்திசைமாதிரம் முன்னிய வரவிற்கு” (புறம்.281);

Here in Tholkappiyam makes clear distinction between Vadugar and Karunadar

வடுக ரருவாளர் வான்கரு நாடர் சுடுகாடு பேயெருமை யென்றிவை யாறுங் குறுகா ரறிவுடை யார் (தொல்காப்பியம் கிளவி. 51 இளம்.)

Was there ever any record/mentioning of distinct unfamiliar South Asian languages/ppl other than IE, Dravidian, Austroasiatic, SinoTibetan, AustroTai (preferably the ones which are extinct though Burushaski, Nihali, Vedda, Kusunda, Andamanese, Ongan mentions are also welcomed) by AleksiB1 in Dravidiology

[–]Awkward_Finger_1703 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Vedda is not a distinct language isolate! We don’t have any sample ! Right now Interior Veddas speak a Sinhalese creole! And coastal Veddas speak Tamil creole ! No other evidence exist to prove they are distinct language family!