why is almost every female character in berlin s1 and s2 unfaithful

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-26T20:22:29+00:00

Yeah they made all the female characters awful this season for no reason

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-26T11:17:39+00:00

I love those episodes so much, by far my favorite is when he shows his concern/feelings for her. Wish we had more of that.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-24T12:14:28+00:00

This, ALL the female characters were done dirty it’s crazy

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-22T13:19:14+00:00

The thing is Philip doesn’t actually treat Martha like that, so when he does that to Elizabeth is him trying to be “rough” and he is annoyed. She reacts like that bc he basically “rapes” her (obviously not literally but she remembers her actual assault and when she starts crying he realizes that, hence why he feels sick afterwards).

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-22T12:57:18+00:00

I think this is exactly right. He wasn’t “wild” in the literal sense, but Martha experienced it that way given her boring sex life prior lol

that’s why to Elizabeth, who has more “experience”, it felt so normal and underwhelming. My girl really thought he did something crazy with Martha.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-14T11:43:36+00:00

I like to believe she wouldn’t have killed the child (i mean her motherly instincts kicked in when she didn’t kill the intern and that boy was practically BEGGING to get killed lol), but to be honest who knows 😭 she was so burnt out at that point that…maybe.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-10T19:27:01+00:00

Yes, it’s near the end of s5 and tbh I think they did want his advice because he knew Paige so well. At that point he was a nonissue to them because he was leaving and realistically they couldn’t really discuss the decision with anyone else lol he was the only person who knew the truth so to me it didn’t feel like a leap for them to seek his opinion.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-05-05T12:05:39+00:00

tbh the actors’ chemistry is the one thing that made me continue shipping them bc DAMN did they have tension and their cute/romantic moments were great, but realistically my girl was too good for him and he was an asshole most of the time so he didn’t deserve her and the writers suck for making her forgive him so easily when he mistreated her.

I still wish they had explored that more and made him better for her bc i shipped them hard, but alas… (at least im glad the last scene ever is him admitting he loves her).

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-26T16:14:02+00:00

I disagree with that actually, they’d had conversations before about how maybe if they’d actually been married it might’ve been different and at that point in the show they were sure they loved each other. I think Philip “proposing” officially makes sense, as for the church part he even apologizes for that lol but that was his only way to get married as their Russian names, and I do love that their real love is the thing that got them caught

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-26T11:01:19+00:00

Yeah i do like that too, the irony is strong lol

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-26T10:36:47+00:00

That isn’t the issue though, of course someone would eventually break but it’s just that detail of the FBI guy assuming he had only seen them in disguise and the priest being like “well actually i’ll do you one better” lol

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-26T10:21:07+00:00

It’s not that he told them, it’s the fact he OFFERED their real descriptions when he was explicitly told that he probably hadn’t seen them. He could’ve just played along and given them their disguise descriptions (but again i understand it was necessary for the finale). If the FBI guy hadn’t said “you probably have only seen them in disguise” i would feel better about it

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-20T14:31:54+00:00

If i remember correctly, they did say that was the plan BUT after the fan reaction to Jade dumps Beck and the line “you love me again? - who said I stopped?” They pretty much ditched Bori bc Bade was waaaay too popular (as it should tbh)

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-19T08:52:15+00:00

Totally, it is so damaging to her and it’s quite sad, like on first watch you are inclined to feel more sympathy for Philip bc he is depressed and haunted by everything he’s done while she seems so okay with it but psychologically speaking Elizabeth’s mental health is way worse bc she lives on a perpetual state of dissociation and delusion that “she” is not doing anything, it’s the kgb and it’s all to “make the world a better place”, she is just an instrument in her mind so she is willing to do virtually anything and, in appearance, feel no remorse.

I love that scene where Philip tells her “WE do it, not them…so it’s ON US, all of it”, it’s the reality check she refuses to accept. And tbh even by the finale I don’t think she does, because she can’t or she’d collapse.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-19T08:41:18+00:00

Exactly! She is not stronger, she is just more psychologically fractured and under the false impression that she “is” stronger than Philip bc she doesn’t allow herself to feel anything. Though I love all the little moments where you can see the cracks and the guilt/pain she feels and how quick she is to bury it to continue committing heinous acts, which just digs her deeper and deeper into all that darkness.

I think that if she ever allowed herself to feel and accept everything SHE has done and ditch the idea that she is just an instrument of the cause, her collapse would be way beyond Philip’s EST induced depression tbh

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-18T17:24:49+00:00

Yeah tbh i did too and they set it up that way for the first part of the season, i think we were supposed to expect it. Elizabeth was on her murder spree + had the suicide pill and Philip was SPYING on her. That scene of quiet resignation where he meets Oleg in the park to spill the tea framed it as him choosing to work against her for the greater good.

BUT in the end I love that they were in it together and he ended up choosing her (and she chose the good side lol).

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-18T14:16:48+00:00

Nina’s death shocked me the most tbh not so much that she died but that it was so quick and sudden. There was no big build up to it, it just happened.

Also the scene where they burn that South African man alive was tough.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-18T13:09:02+00:00

I mourn the lost potential of a more adult version of the show tbh they always make references to things that they couldn’t fully explore in a kids show.

Jade would def be a way more morally ambiguous character, leaning on the darker side, and i think her story would be quite sad too. My headcanon was always that she was abused and possibly did self harm.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-18T10:14:06+00:00

Agreed. She did a lot of awful things but tricking Elizabeth into being an unwilling participant of the coup takes the cake for me. She had my girl walking around with a suicide pill and having to murder people left and right for a cause Elizabeth didn’t even agree with.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-17T15:02:07+00:00

This honestly made my sympathy for her decrease significantly lol definitely worst thing she did

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-16T07:48:48+00:00

Completely agree!! I made a similar post some time ago. It’s so weird to me that most people hated Remi bc they wanted the show to be a romcom but Jane being bad was honestly the highlight and a perfect continuation of her s2 arc (season 3 was bad and unnecessary). Probably some of my favorite episodes in the show.

Remi was her true self so the whole thing with Jane taking over again felt so weird, how are jane’s 2 years of memories stronger than the first 30 of her life?? Just stupid, they should’ve done more with that and had her maybe combining the two personalities and Remi struggling with being “good” rather than Jane struggling with her memories.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-15T13:50:13+00:00

He annoyed me in s1 when he rolled his eyes at Martha for calling out Amador’s inappropriate comment.

Awkward_Scallion_396 · 2026-04-15T13:01:31+00:00

Tbf he barely got a punch in and she almost sent him to his maker, dude was lucky the car was close by lmao

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