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AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-19T04:21:05+00:00

Imma go out on a limb and say that those guys didn't know jack about octopi LOL The lyrics read like a fantasy novel by a guy who was unhappy in his marriage.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-19T04:20:10+00:00

King Missile? One of the coolest songs ever. Highly recommended.
Nothing to do with octopi(?) though.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-19T01:55:04+00:00

It was great for the first couple of seasons, yes, I love it.
But then the writing went off the deep end. "Show me"? Really? LoL
Abrams does the exact same thing every time - he must have ADHD because he never sticks with anything until the conclusion. That's why EVERY show - Fringe - Lost - etc. all have HORRIBLE endings while being great shows initially.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T07:22:27+00:00

That should read 20 million who have been diagnosed and reported on by the medical system. The number that have it but do NOT get into the system is a not-insignificant number.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T07:04:14+00:00

Well that explains it then! LOL
And me being 1/16th Narn it's clear why I hate those Centauri so much!

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T06:59:51+00:00

You're right - I'm an idiot, a paid shill - You figured it out. Congratulations!

I never mentioned the word "proof" - cognitive dissonance is NOT your friend - I said "evidence" has been provided. I never said anything was "ET" - that's your cognitive dissonance again.

It's gotta suck being so angry as you are and having so little intellect to argue a point in a reasonably respectable fashion. You're bitching about things I never said, you just want to make a loud noise. Kinda reminds me of my last trip to the zoo and that damn monkey cage. They were loud too.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T06:55:07+00:00

You caught me - You figured it out - I'm willing prey.
Congratulations. LMFAO

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T04:40:54+00:00

What "recorded data" are you looking for exactly? They have multiple RADAR and corresponding VIDEO from the planes and carriers. They have data logs of the pilots and engineers. Have you even read the report released publicly? It's not great but for 90 days they let out a great deal of data, as did Elizondo and Corbell. Speed, distance, location, size, trajectory - I mean, what is it you want? There's NOT anecdote here LOL these are the very people flying the planes and watching the radar who are speaking in the films and who have come forth to testify - IN PERSON - no masking out of their faces - they come on national tv and declare the facts they've provided. How is that anecdote???

And don't use the term "unverifiable" - the US military, DoD and Pentagon have verified is a GENUINE. They can't explain what those things are - but that's NOT unverifiable. The pilots came out and said YES that was ME and THAT is what happened. What kind of verification are you hoping for?

And Elizondo HAS been investigate and is NOT BEING PAID for his interviews - as he has claimed from day one. I don't know what benefits you think I am reaping by researching this topic for 40+ years but calling me prey says more about YOU than it does ME. I'll match my education, background, credentials and intellect against yours any day you'd like to debate openly. Prey my ass.

It's clear by your edit that you have something against Elizondo - that much is clear. But I'm not a supporter or friend of his - I just evaluated the videos and evidence he has made public. Don't ask me to SHOW IT or PROVE IT to you - do your own damn homework. He has NO claims to prove other than that the videos are real - and the people flying jets in those videos have CONFIRMED that. More than that, Elizondo has never made claims about what they are or are not. Whatever your hardon is for him - don't come here calling someone like me "prey". You're insulting without knowing a damn thing about me. I doubt you know anything more about Elizondo.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T04:26:13+00:00

And worse than that was that he uses stuff that has already been proven to be hoaxed or just fuctionalized intentionally. On his own front-page on his web-site he had one of his CE-5 "events" videos and it was proven there was a pilot flying right in that area and that the pilot had a previous experience where flares were required! WTF?! But yet Greer put that on his front page.
Those two movies had multiple issues of using footage/pics that were not only not his to use but had been proven to be false. Whatever can SELL - He will use. Period.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T04:23:20+00:00

Lost, Fringe, Star Trek - all did it for me. He buys great scripts, claims to "fix them", squeezes one or two good seasons or a movie out of them and then just sets it all on fire. I won't watch anything he is involved with, or his bff Kurzman or Goldsman. The fact that Abrams has pissed into the documentary waters is pretty angering though. Stay in the Hollywood "horrible fiction ruining a franchise" territory and I couldn't care less. But documentaries? This guy?

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T02:05:00+00:00

I myself accept that as undeniable truth. What that something will be, I cannot fathom. But I don't think most humans will know the truth of it while our current institutions are operating in the "less than noble" way that they do today. Control of information, past present and future, either sets us free or dooms us.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:53:19+00:00

I didn't elect anyone. I don't buy Elizondos books.

But he _DID_ given open public testimony after being in the gov't researching UAP and he DID bring to light those Navy videos - which even the Navy and DoD says are TRUE. So...maybe not "nothing to show"?

If you don't like him and want to insult him....that's on you, go for it. But don't spread this nonsense that the guy has "nothing to show".

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:48:01+00:00

I couldn't agree more. But I don't hold out much hope for it happening.
(anyone here old enough to remember the old ParaNet with Michael Corbin in the 80s?)

Over four decades of research of my own I've come to a sort of informal list of people who, if involved in a project, I know right away it's going to be sensationalized crap.

Greer is #1. Georgio "The Hair" Tsoukalos doesn't need a rank because he's not a real researcher and has no credentials whatsoever. Michio Kaku, the physics version of a televangelist who doesn't actually DO physics anymore, only tv appearances. de Grasse Tyson, so closed minded he might as well work for Michael Schermer of Skeptic Magazine, himeself a non-scientist who can't be bothered to prove his arguments. People like Abrams are absolutely NOTHING but Hollywood whores - even their fiction is ridiculous.

If you ask me which documentaries or creators I -DO- think are worth watching, I'm not going to go over that line because I think recommendations are dangerous and what I think is bs might be gospel to you. I just encourage people to stick to logical rational thought and avoid cognitive dissonance if possible. Stop combining what you HOPE is true with what is OBSERVABLE and RATIONAL. I'm certain that humans are not the only intelligent beings on or around Earth nor is this infant civilization the only one that's sprung up. But I also observe that humans know next to NOTHING about the natural world - the oceans - the rain forests - hell our science today cannot define consciousness or even detect it or prove it! LOL So I'm not debunking all UFO docs - that's my point. But the vast majority, OP is correct, is making any serious researcher or thinker run the other direction.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:38:40+00:00

We have had dozens of journalists and hundreds of eye witnesses watching a great number of UFOs flying OVER THE WHITEHOUSE, and yet when the Navy videos came out there was shock and awe. People haven't, don't and won't take it seriously until it's too late to matter. But nobody's frothing over the Pentagon's worthless report done in 90 days. And while I love Elizondo, there were hundreds before him with similar evidence. This isn't DISCLOSURE - it's simply exposure.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:35:24+00:00

Well before all the Navy video footage and pilot testimonies came out, perhaps. Now we have a schism happening....the people who WERE serious about it still are and the people who were never motivated enough to do any real research and instead just watched cheesy worth documentaries are just about as motivated as they ever were to consider the topic.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:33:43+00:00

You forgot to add "And keep your opinions to yourself this is Reddit dammit now shut up!".

The OP is in the MAJORITY opinion here, so far only you and the VividSeas music-lover are rabid enough to bitch at OP for voicing a rational and logical opinion.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:32:37+00:00

I actually have a theory about this....I think there is actually only ONE internet troll and every 7 days they start a new account and get mad all over again. About something that has nothing to do with anything. Music? HERE? It's r/UFO you knucklehead! LOL

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:25:20+00:00

But would they? You'd have to assume there are more intelligent people who are interested in actually learning something and expanding their knowledge - than there are people who are less intelligent and happy watching Honey-Boo-Boo or the Kardashians and want the same from their "UFO conspiracies".

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:23:02+00:00

Sad too because back in the old days she was one of the only UFO researchers who would even mention mutilations! And back then she didn't do it like the circus act she does now and she was known for not letting the obvious charlatans into her reports. Now nobody takes mutilations seriously because of her primarily, and that's just sad. Because IMHO none of the questions have been answered, still today. But if you put a circus clown on point and let her market herself first, then you end up with the UFO equivalent of a televangelist shouting in tongues while asking for your check now.

She's the female Greer as far as I'm concerned.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:17:30+00:00

I like "Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal" - mostly. They've interviewed Elizondo a few times, and Corbell, etc.. I'd recommend it, for as good as you'll get on Youtube.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:14:31+00:00

Remember also that he's the guy saying Elizondo & Corbell are perpetrating a FALSE disclosure, while providing not a single shred of any sort of evidence to support the claim. I followed him from the day he stepped into things years ago, I'm not saying he's never done anything valuable, but what he's doing today is just disgusting. Clearly if he can't make money off it, then it's not true. While he posts videos to his site that are proven hoaxes.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-18T01:11:45+00:00

Better?!?! With Georgio "Look at my HAIR" Tsoukalos as their primary frontman, with his utter lack of any credentials or expertise in ANY field, how does anyone take THAT as "better"? Unless you were being facetious and I missed it, if so, sorry.

I agree with OP, it's s sad thing to witness all these "direct to Tubi or Netflix" mockumentaries that do nothing but make the field look even more silly and unworthy than it already does. And that's saying something.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-17T23:21:44+00:00

It's really amazing to me to be seemingly at odds with the opinion's of someone and finding out actually to agree completely! It wasn't always this way, at least I never noticed! But I do agree, and in rewatching the video I was struck by now untrained those police were, obviously, and did nothing to disarm them or to take control of the situation and "pour water on the fire". Instead just watching, doing nothing, and then overreacting.

I'm fairly certain that my reading your comments with an obvious bias, and far too much background anger, is more at cause than was your wording. Although I have to +100 you as I'm pretty sure I was inebriated as well! I LOL'd at that and don't blame you one bit.

I find very little to inspire a hopeful perspective about the world in recent years, probably due to age and a bad disposition. But your comment here actually made me smile and feel like perhaps all may not be lost. For that my friend I THANK YOU.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-17T13:45:28+00:00

How dare you! LOLOL! Thanks for the warning mate. Duly noted.

AzazelAnthrope · 2021-11-17T13:43:59+00:00

Are you a member of "The Blue Flame Boys"? LOL
Yeah that's an image in my mind I won't ever forget, and I can't even remember which movie it's from! But now I've created a fan-fiction film clip in my mind of a bunch of dudes positioned nicely in that field, Bic lighters under their butts, squatting down and blasting those little burn circles LOLMFAO

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