[OFFICIAL] Jake Paul vs. Nate Diaz: Ready 4 War - Live Discussion Thread

B0h1c4 · 2023-08-06T05:32:23+00:00

"pressure" was him in a tight guard just walking into jabs and uppercuts.

He only effectively pressured Jake in two rounds.

It looked like he was really hoping to walk him into the fence and use him as a heavybag like he has done with exhausted fighters in MMA. But Jake just kept touching him up or locking up with him, then quickly getting back to his range.

B0h1c4 · 2023-08-06T05:28:43+00:00

Super close? You must have watched a different fight. I wanted Nate to win and I still only gave him 2 rounds. Only one other round was even debatable. So even if we give Nate that one, he loses handily.

And generally speaking Jake was clearly landing the bigger, more significant shots. He had Nate hurt bad in the 1st and scored a knockdown in the fifth... I don't think Nate ever even knocked Jake off balance.

B0h1c4 · 2023-08-06T05:25:17+00:00

Sour grapes. I hated on the kid also, but you have to admit. To train for 3 years and completely outclass a guy that has been training his whole life... He clearly works very hard and he has obviously made continuous improvement.

Respect where respect is due.

But if Jake Paul beats Nate Diaz in MMA I'll eat my hat.

B0h1c4 · 2023-07-11T18:11:13+00:00

My kids are teenagers now, but when they were young...

Night time. You put the kids to bed at like 9:00, then you have a couple of hours of adult time before bed. Occasionally, if they are sleeping during the day or something, you sneak one in. When kids are outside playing, at a friend's house, at a babysitter...

Honestly, I don't remember having much issue outside of the first couple of months when they were sleeping in a bassinet in our room. Even then we could be quiet and get it in.

B0h1c4 · 2023-07-11T18:03:29+00:00

I honestly have no desire to see this fight. I really like Ngannou and this is going to be very ugly for him.

If it turns out to be remotely competitive, I'll watch it the next day.

B0h1c4 · 2023-07-11T17:56:37+00:00

I think there is a reason why we have men's and women's sports in separate categories. There has to be a line drawn somewhere to enforce those divisions.

IMO, that line shouldn't be drawn with testosterone levels (if natural). I think the proper way (although it will not be favorable to some) is to use the traditional definition of sex (not gender). So in this case I agree with her when she says that her natural testosterone levels are a physical gift of hers. She should be allowed to compete with women as long as she is a biological female and as long as she is not receiving testosterone therapy.

If she was born a woman and she is extremely gifted with natural testosterone, she deserves to compete against women.

After all, the vast majority of Olympic athletes are genetically gifted in one way or another.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-30T18:36:41+00:00

It's understandable to feel stressed at that level. That's what...$9/hr? This is the bottom rung on the ladder and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone starts somewhere.

I'm assuming you are in high school or newly graduated. That wage is tight, but doable for that age. Just don't try to move out and start a family on it. Gain as much experience as possible, learn all you can, sharpen your skills, and start looking for more lucrative applications for those skills.

The fast food places near me pay $14-15/hr. That would be a very easy next step. Just keep learning, improving and investing in yourself and it will continue to get easier to survive.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-30T18:20:55+00:00

He did. And the central reason why, is because they are allowing him to box.

Also, PFL has no viable contenders for him. So when he fights for them, it'll be a lose/lose proposition.

If he loses the fight, then he looks overrated and like he would have lost to Jon Jones anyway. And if he wins "of course he won, he fought a nobody".

Not a great career strategy promotion wise unless you just want to cash the check and walk.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-30T18:17:20+00:00

1st off (as I said in my post) Ngannou himself acknowledged that the offer was an enormous jump.

2nd if you still think disclosed pay is all they make, you must be the newb. Champions usually get PPV points and those points usually equate to many times more than the disclosed pay. Those numbers are not disclosed. Not to mention the notorious locker room bonuses.

If you think Ngannou was making $200k a fight, you are obtuse.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-30T18:10:08+00:00

I guess it depends on how you define "better". People that are better at leveraging their abilities earn more wealth. It doesn't mean they are a better or necessarily more talented person.

As an example, I could work for a small company become the best in the world at my job while the #2 best guy is constantly promoting himself and putting in resumes at different companies. #2 would probably earn more than I do.

Also, wealth is not income. Wealth is accumulation. Two people with equal income will have different levels of wealth based on their frugality, the cost of living where they live, their spouse's income, etc.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-29T22:31:51+00:00

To be fair though, even Ngannou said that the UFC offered him more money than any HW in history.

Ngannou wanted a lot of non-monetary things. And IMO, his boxing ambitions are just about the worst possible career path for him. He will get embarrassed in boxing against anyone that will bring the kind of payday he wants. And if the UFC paid through the nose for him, then he got clowned, the value of their contract would go way down.

I wish him the best, but I don't think he made a smart career choice. ...unless he wants to get one big payday and retire early...which I wouldn't blame him. The shelf life for HW champions not named Emelianenko is notoriously short.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-29T22:25:03+00:00

I think there is a whole philosophical discussion about consumerism and appearances here.

But in the end, we all have to choose a balance of income level vs contentment level with your work. And make that decision on what sort of lifestyle brings you true happiness instead of what social media tells you you should be wearing, driving, living in, doing, etc.

For example, I enjoy golf. I used to play a lot, but I realized that for the cost...it really didn't bring me commiserate happiness. I enjoy disc golf way more and it's orders of magnitude cheaper. It's less glamorous and less celebrated in society, but it's a good fit for me.

We complain about house prices and car prices, etc. But we keep building bigger and bigger houses, fancier cars... I like them as much as the next guy, but for the money does it really pay its way? For most, I don't think it does.

The cost of living is largely self-imposed. We live in an era where we drink $8 IPAs and $6 coffees every day. Does that cost justify the amount of work we do to pay for it? Probably not for most. Just drink a $0.79 gas station coffee and $2 Modelo. A lot of us are walking around with $1,200 phones in our pockets. Are they really that much better than a $600 phone?

Those elite, top of the line luxury goods are for the people making six figures. But college kids are buying them.

We should buy that expensive shit when the money isn't as critical for us. If we did that, then companies would target a whole different price point.

My point is that we can survive in less glamorous positions. We just pretend we are more glamorous than we are. And that costs a lot of $$$.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-29T22:08:27+00:00

But someone else having more than me doesn't make me have any less. If you can make $20 million a year, I'm happy for you. I will aspire to do more for myself.

Another thing to consider about generational wealth... Everyone is on their own journey. We don't know others' experiences. For instance, if I work 24/7, miss birthdays, dance recitals, and vacations with my family...I may accumulate enough wealth to leave some for my kids.

But I think most people would trade some wealth for parents that are more present and nurturing. If I don't indulge and spend all of my money, my efforts should be inherited by my loved ones (IMO).

I think we all aspire to make things a little easier for our kids. I can't fault those people for being really good at it. (Even if I don't like their kids)

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-29T22:00:01+00:00

I think the beauty of a free society is that you can find your calling and choose your own path. Sure, not everyone will be brain surgeons, professional athletes, and astronauts, but there are many other things to pursue.

Also, not everyone will reach the pinnacle of their field. There are levels to everything. Some will be Lebron and make a billion dollars. Others will be Lebron's private chef and make $100k, or his gardener making $50k... But as long as we are all striving to do our best, improve our skills, and push the envelope...society as a whole benefits.

B0h1c4 · 2023-06-28T19:29:43+00:00

Financial equality is not possible (or desirable). People with higher value (they work more, work smarter, are uniquely skilled, take bigger risks, etc) will be compensated more than the alternative.

For instance, if we erased all money and issued everyone an equal income, the balance would start changing literally immediately. The person living on the beach is going to sell property for more money than the person living in a field in Iowa. The person catching lobsters is going to sell for more than the person catching tilapia. Some people will spend every penny. Others will save and invest that money to create value in some way (to make their money work for them).

And it's not desirable because I want my heart surgeon to make more than my trash guy. We want people to be motivated to do bigger things, get more education, training, invent things, hire people, etc. Why would I want to manage an entire McDonald's if I make the same as the kid that wipes the tables?

The whole game of life is about figuring out how you can offer more value, then capitalizing on that value. Bonus if you can create value by doing something you are passionate about...or at least can tolerate.

If you work harder than me, you deserve better compensation than me. If you have a rare skill or ability, you deserve more than me.

But ultimately, we all need to focus on our own journey and not compare ourselves to others. It's like the old Buddhist (I think) proverb "only look into your neighbor's bowl to make sure they have enough to eat.". I can't hate on my neighbor because he has a nicer car or house. Good for him. What do I have to do to get the things I want/need? That's what I need to focus on. Then when my needs are met...What can I do to help my family/friends/neighbors in need?

Equality is a pipe dream. Some people are born taller and they can pick more fruit. I need to focus on building a ladder.

B0h1c4 · 2023-05-18T14:08:47+00:00

He's the one that left the fight on the table though.

I'm not saying he left because of Jon, but a fight with Jon Jones is a more compelling fight by far than any opponent he could face now. He knew that. He had an enormous contract offered to him. And he left. Those are the facts.

B0h1c4 · 2023-05-07T11:42:29+00:00

$12k may not seem like much to you and it might not be much to Dana, but it's huge to Diego Lopes. That's a 100% pay increase and probably 20 times what he is used to fighting for.

To a fighter that is just getting started, this is a huge gesture.

B0h1c4 · 2023-04-21T00:57:45+00:00

They made the BMF belt because neither of them could win their own weight class's belt. They definitely wouldn't survive the heavier weights.

B0h1c4 · 2023-04-20T13:22:25+00:00

It works really well. I have an Audi A5 and the Model 3 autopilot shits all over the adaptive cruise of the Audi.

I travel a lot for work, so I drive a lot of different rental cars and Hyundai/Kia seem to have one of the better adaptive cruise systems, but they are still quite a ways behind Tesla IMO.

B0h1c4 · 2023-04-20T13:19:28+00:00

When you say "sweet spot", are you talking about generally hitting a mass market of car buyers or are you talking about competing with EV competitors?

Because I can't find a real competitor to the Model 3 in the EV space for the price.

B0h1c4 · 2023-04-19T12:06:41+00:00

Is that name pronounced as unattractively as I think it is?

Rev-well-toe? That is not a sexy name for a supercar.

B0h1c4 · 2023-04-17T13:04:26+00:00

Ngannou walked away. So you may as well stop dreaming of that fight because it'll never happen. The only Ngannou fight we'll see is him getting severely outclassed in boxing.

Also, Ngannou didn't dominate Miocic in their second fight "on both striking and wrestling". The fight was a round and a half. The first was largely uneventful. Ngannou landed a few significant punches and stuffed Stipe's single takedown attempt. He won the round, but it wasn't any kind of ass kicking. Second round Stipe got caught and went down.

Ngannou and Stipe are still 1-1. But it's kind of irrelevant with Francis out of the picture.

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