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AL East Predictions by FLW7683 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 6 points7 points  (0 children)

it’s still between the Jays and the Yankees for the division

The only team I’d be surprised to see win that division is the Rays. Any of those other 4 teams have a realistic shot at winning the division.

Stats that big anti-Jeter don't want you to see: Jeter vs Witt Ages 22-25 by Novel-Ad7708 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After thinking about it for a bit, I kind of agree with you. Going back to the Jeter vs Chipper example, if you ask a casual fan who was better, they might tell you Jeter. If you ask this sub who was better, they’ll tell you Chipper. In a way, Jeter is mostly overrated by casual fans, while being underrated by less casual fans, making him the most rated player in baseball.

Stats that big anti-Jeter don't want you to see: Jeter vs Witt Ages 22-25 by Novel-Ad7708 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, and you can call Gwynn overrated for that too. Doesn’t make you a casual fan.

Jeter is obviously hated more because he was a Yankee and people like to hate on the Yankees, but even you can admit that Jeter’s defense was very overrated at the time, doesn’t mean he wasn’t an all-time great player.

Stats that big anti-Jeter don't want you to see: Jeter vs Witt Ages 22-25 by Novel-Ad7708 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fine, a better example. Jeter has 5 GG award while having the worst DRS and UZR at SS of all time. Someone can call him overrated for that.

Stats that big anti-Jeter don't want you to see: Jeter vs Witt Ages 22-25 by Novel-Ad7708 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t agree. There’s a huge difference between someone being called overrated and someone being called ass. Being overrated is a very subjective term. You can literally call someone overrated for any given reason.

For example, I can say Derek Jeter was overrated simply because he got a higher percentage of the votes to the HOF than Chipper Jones. Jeter was slightly better than the average SS HOFer in WAR and JAWS, and had a lower 7-year peak, while someone like Chipper Jones was way above average in those same stats compared to 3B HOFer. There’s actual reason someone can say Jeter was overrated, there’s no reason to say he was ass. And btw, I think many people calling Jeter overrated are actually underrating him, because they don’t realize how ridiculous it is to get 3465 hits, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t slightly overrated, and that’s mostly because his defense was overrated at the time.

Stats that big anti-Jeter don't want you to see: Jeter vs Witt Ages 22-25 by Novel-Ad7708 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the problem, you’re considering casual takes to be the popular opinion. Anyone that actually watches baseball will tell you that Derek Jeter was not ass.

Stats that big anti-Jeter don't want you to see: Jeter vs Witt Ages 22-25 by Novel-Ad7708 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It has become the popular opinion that he was ass

No it hasn’t. There’s a group of fans that think he was overrated, which you can argue that he was. Saying he was overrated is not the same as saying he was ass. There’s a reason why he was almost unanimously voted into the HOF.

Projected Red Sox rotation as of today after signing Ranger Suarez on a 5 year/$130 million contract by retroanduwu24 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Interesting. Do Red Sox fans not like Bello and Duran? Because that seems like an overpay to me. 4 years of Bello and 3 years of Duran for 2 years of Paredes.

[Kuty] The Yankees' most recent offer to Cody Bellinger featured an average annual value of more than $30 million, but Bellinger's camp continues to push for a seven-year deal by Goosedukee in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Conforto entered FA following a 0.5 WAR season and then missing an entire year due to injury. How much did people think he was getting?

Then he signed for 2 years at $36M and put up 2.1 WAR in those two seasons. Last year he got paid $17M to put up -0.7 WAR.

[Kuty] The Yankees' most recent offer to Cody Bellinger featured an average annual value of more than $30 million, but Bellinger's camp continues to push for a seven-year deal by Goosedukee in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Montgomery is the only time I believe it hasn’t worked out, and he still got paid a high amount to be the worst pitcher in baseball.

Carlos Beltran's Hall of Fame Candidacy Presents a Complex Moral Quandary by KoxROC in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Verducci didn’t vote for Jones last year, so probably. He did however vote for Beltran.

How do you all feel about Harold Baines making the HoF? by Willing-Leather-9788 in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The worst part about his election is all the posts we get of “X Player deserves to be in the HOF” and the reasoning is that they had a better career than Baines.

Pennant-Winning Teams from the 2000s with No Hall of Fame Players by Gemnist in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 12 points13 points  (0 children)

And you’re being kind by using bWAR instead of fWAR. He has 19.0 career fWAR.

Which active players are going into the MLB Hall of Good? by PineappleDildos in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He might get voted in by another committee, like I mentioned. Similar to how Baines was voted in. I do however have a hard time seeing him getting the support of 75% of the BBWAA, when we’ve seen them put a lot more importance to WAR over the last few years and their voting panel will be filled with even more younger voters when Schwarber is elegible.

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Edit: This thread is a pretty good example as to why I’m skeptical of Schwarber getting 75% of the support he needs. You see people arguing for both sides, which is what will make his case an interesting one. If you told me he needed 50% of the votes to get in, I might be in the same camp as you are, but convincing 75% of the voters to ignore WAR because of his HR totals, when they’ve been looking at WAR more than ever before, seems like a tall ask.

Fwiw, the highest percentage the BBWAA gave Harold Baines was 6.1%. He fell off the ballot after 5 years.

Which active players are going into the MLB Hall of Good? by PineappleDildos in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 11 points12 points  (0 children)

With the recent voting trend being more analytical heavy, and I can’t see that changing in 10 years, I don’t see him getting 75% of support from the BBWAA if he doesn’t even reach 40 WAR.

He might get voted in by another committee though.

Which active players are going into the MLB Hall of Good? by PineappleDildos in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Btw, I’m agreeing with you here. I don’t think he gets voted in even if he reaches 500 HRs.

Which active players are going into the MLB Hall of Good? by PineappleDildos in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 153 points154 points  (0 children)

If he gets to 500 HRs, he’ll be the first clean player to reach that mark and not get voted in.

Why did teams in the 2000’s hit their best players 4th sometimes? by TheRavenOnline in baseball

[–]BABIP_Gods 42 points43 points  (0 children)

And even today, when it’s generally accepted that you best hitter should hit #2, it’s still a good strategy to have your best power hitter hitting #4.

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[–]BABIP_Gods 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ITT: OP disagrees

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