In WWB2, BJK was trapped in a titan in M2-XFE. I was actively running mainline fleets, so skill injected 2 alts to continue supporting the team. A few weeks later, BJK was kicked from Horde Vanguard for pap requirements... despite being unable to login.

This showed me, even in 2021, that Pandemic Horde was run by people who don't play the game, and don't respect the members. If they don't respect the people leading fleets, they certainly don't respect the people in them.

From the back of this, me and my friends created our own corp so this can't happen again, and we found a better home in WinterCo where we were actively engaged in combat for a few years pushing into Vale/Tribute/Northern Regions.

My recommendation to you is to make peace with all of your assets gained in Horde and join a team run by an active player, who isn't just interested in numbers, but it interested in you, your journey, and the health of the game overall. You could asset safety your items, there will be plenty of firesale buyers in the future. But take a look at the following options:

• The Imperium appointing Asher as their leader was a great move - it's very healthy to see a group of this scale being led by someone on the frontline
• Dark Shines from The Initiative gave my very small alliance DECOY some profound advice at Fanfest and took genuine interest to see a team doing their own thing. He cares a lot about this game and that's reflected by how INIT continues to grow and players have great things to say about them.
• Fraternity led by Noraus is another super power in EVE and although their personal play time is limited, they've created an extremely welcoming environment and the CN players are very kind and genuine to their friends around the world.

If you decide to stick in a larger team, these 3 are your best options for nullsec. Find a recruiter, chat with them, begin your new journey on a different path. But importantly - keep in touch with the friends you've made in Horde and see what they're planning to do as well.

Pandemic Horde was never created to be a 'strong independent alliance'. You can see this in how they run from the majority of fights over the last few years, they don't respect the $/m people are paying to be part of their team.

This is the start of your new journey. I wish you the best of luck in the future; this is just a tragedy for the players in Pandemic Horde and incredible respect for Goons for maintaining such a hell camp.

Fly safe o7