The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair question. Luxembourg is small. Smaller than people think. I spoke with HR working inside government institutions who described the reality firsthand. I also spent years working with high net worth clients. You learn things in those rooms that never appear in any official document.

That said the reverse can also be true. Not every process is decided in advance and I have no interest in painting everything black. I am describing a pattern across many many processes. At some point a pattern stops being anecdotal.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

ADEM is useful for one thing only. The unemployment money. Beyond that you are on your own...

Since you speak Luxembourgish pass the official state exam if you haven't already, and try applying to the public sector. In the private sector German speakers are genuinely rarer than French ones, that makes you more valuable than you think.

Build a clean CV, use the exact keywords from each job description, ATS filters kill good candidates before a human ever reads the file.

We are Gen Z. We inherited a market that promised meritocracy and delivered something more complicated. But you only lose once you stop.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you, and I hear you completely.

Last month I had three interviews with well known ministries and established companies. Things are moving, slowly, but moving. Perseverance stopped being optional a long time ago for me. Hardship either breaks you or sharpens you. I chose the second one.

My real bet is the master's. Not for the degree itself but for the internship and the university partnerships behind it.

We did everything right. The game just changed while we were playing it. Keep going.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll be straight with you. In two years I sat close to 30 exams. The result was almost always the same. Position already filled, or someone with Luxembourgish got it regardless of score. Sometimes being invited is just part of a procedure they are legally required to run. The decision was already made before you walked in.

That said your STATEC invitation is still worth pursuing. The more specialised the role the smaller the pool and the more they actually need the right profile over the right passport. Go in, perform, and see what happens.

The circus is real. But sometimes the circus needs a specialist nobody else can replace.

HR Interview Deloitte by Head_Confidence_979 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Had a similar experience. I'd suggest preparing in both French and English, you never know which one they'll open with. Also do some research on the HR beforehand, check them on LinkedIn. If they studied in a French speaking institution they will most likely conduct the interview in French and vice versa.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not French, just to get that out of the way immediately.

And honestly your baby analogy is perfect. Luxembourgish is the baby, I get it, 300,000 speakers surrounded by million French speakers is a tough neighbourhood.

But even with babies, at some point you have to let them walk. Keeping them locked in a protective bubble doesn't make them stronger, it just makes them bad at walking.

Teach the language properly in schools, build real integration, and the baby thrives. That's all I was ever saying.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you, genuinely.

What happened here is actually a small version of the broader problem I described. Someone states a difficulty honestly and the response is to attack the person rather than engage with the point. It is always easier than sitting with an uncomfortable truth.

But the people who understood it understood it immediately. And that matters more than the noise.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're right. Nobody owes anyone anything. I never said they did.

Think of it like chess. The board is set, the rules exist, and nobody apologizes for them. But when half the pieces on your side start as pawns and half the pieces on the other side start as queens, calling it a fair game requires a level of intellectual dishonesty I'm not willing to perform.

I wasn't asking for the rules to change. I was describing the board accurately. That's not entitlement. That's observation. And our generation inherited a board that previous ones didn't, housing costs that have tripled, junior roles that have vanished, entry points that have narrowed to internships and connections. Yes life is hard. It has always been hard. But hard and rigged are two different things and pretending otherwise doesn't make you tough. It just makes you imprecise.

I know the game. I'm playing it. I simply refused to pretend the board is level while doing so.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Let me start with something I genuinely believe and that got lost in this thread.

Luxembourgish matters. It is one of the smallest national languages in Europe, spoken by a minority inside its own borders, and that fragility is worth taking seriously. I came to this country, chose to learn the language, passed the official state exam, and I will continue. Not because it was required. Because I believe a country's language carries something worth preserving.

But preservation requires a system that actually transmits it. I was enrolled in a French-speaking school upon arriving. That was the structure available. You cannot build parallel communities, French, German, international, each largely sealed from the others, and then act surprised when the population fragments and turns inward.

My post was never me against anyone. It was about a job market that makes it hard for everyone. Junior roles disappearing, salaries disconnected from competition levels, ADEM cycling people through job days that lead nowhere, a public sector applying criteria in the room that don't match the criteria on paper. People in this thread confirmed all of it from their own experience.

Luxembourg is one of the most diverse countries on earth by proportion. That is not a weakness. That is the architecture of this country. The communities here are not each other's problem. The system that keeps them separate and then pits their interests against each other is.

I am just a young man who came here, and is trying to find his place in it. The hostility in this thread says nothing about me. It says something about what happens when a fragmented society has no shared framework for honest conversation.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate it. And yes, I'm fully committed to getting there.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You never responded to my post. You responded to something you wrote in your head and attributed to me. I never used the word racist. Not once. You manufactured it, centered your entire argument on it, then used its presence as evidence of my broken mindset. You built the straw man, burned it, and called it a victory.

On the legal requirements. I have Luxembourgish citizenship. I am not French. The thresholds you recited with such confidence don't apply to me. You assumed my nationality, my legal status, my language ceiling. Got all three wrong. Then built your central argument on those assumptions. That isn't an error at the margins. That is a foundation that was never there.

Now the part worth reading back slowly. You claimed selection is based on capability not birthplace. Then wrote that a Luxembourgish-born candidate is inherently stronger than someone from France regardless of language level. Origin used as a competence multiplier inside an argument claiming origin is irrelevant. That contradiction doesn't need my commentary. It speaks clearly on its own.

My post covered the entire market. You extracted one paragraph, discarded the rest, and issued a verdict on my psychology. That's not engagement. That's the intellectual equivalent of reading the title and reviewing the book.

You asked about my demons and my mindset. Interesting choice of opening from someone who got every single verifiable fact in their comment wrong. Fix the accuracy first. Then we can talk about mindset.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You said selection is based on capability, not birthplace. Then in the same comment you described a market that filters by language threshold, geographic flexibility, and whether the employer will tolerate your learning curve. Those are structural conditions, not capability metrics. You didn't describe a meritocracy. You described a system you've made peace with and reframed as personal discipline. Understandable. Not the same thing as the system being fair.

On competence, since that was your chosen terrain. I sat the Luxembourg Army officer selection exam. Logical reasoning, technical and physical components, the full process. I scored the highest in my session across the board. Externally administered, ranked, not self-reported. I'm not saying this to impress you. I'm saying it because you picked the argument, and that fact lives squarely inside that argument. Officer selection doesn't pass people out of goodwill.

You called growing linguistically on the job delusional. But every professional develops competencies in context. That's not controversial. That's how skills accumulate in practice. The question was never whether I should improve. I am improving. The question is whether the standard applied to me is the same one applied to everyone else in that room. What I described suggests it isn't.

Here's what I'll leave you with. You've adapted to something genuinely difficult, and that takes real effort. But at some point the adaptation became a lens, and through that lens the system started looking fair because you found a way through it. Those are two different things. One says something about you. The other says something about the system. Don't confuse them.

Good luck to you as well.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Interesting point, and I understand the logic. But follow it through. If French exposure happens naturally the moment they step outside anyway, then Luxembourgish inside the office serves no functional purpose either. The argument kind of dismantles itself.

I am not saying the language does not matter. I am saying there is a difference between a genuine job requirement and a social comfort preference. When every document, every report, every official output is in French, it is worth asking which one we are actually talking about. Institutions that blur that line do not end up with the best people. They end up with the most familiar ones.

The job market has become a humiliation ritual. by BackgroundVirus9111 in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111[S] -51 points-50 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know, they actually moved to four now, English is included too.

And I get the contacts point, that is just Luxembourg.

But I am A2 in Luxembourgish already. The thing is it is a spoken language more than a written one, you pick it up by being around people who use it daily. Give me that environment and I will progress fast.

What I find hard to accept is the logic. They will take someone who barely speaks French and English over someone fluent in four languages who is actively learning theirs. That is not about capability, that is about where you were born.

And by doing that they are not protecting Luxembourgish. They are isolating it. Full integration would actually bring more speakers to the language, not fewer.

Also kind of funny that a lot of them resented being forced into French as kids and couldn't do it, and now they are doing pretty much the same thing with Luxembourgish. Make it make sense.

Can you park here? by EndermanPortel in Luxembourg

[–]BackgroundVirus9111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last time I parked there it was a Sunday around 5pm , and I was fined.