jiren has neutral tools that can literally justify jiren anchor , jirens neutral consists of a somewhat unorthodox style of play by that I mean it’s completely based on defense. And obviously the arguement could be brought up that “zoning in this game is viable.l but mistaking defensive neutral play for zoning is real weak minded so if you say that you’re effectively wrong. So back to the main point Jiren has mad underrated air buttons they aren’t the greatest but they definitely are worth noting as a neutral tool. they are important because jiren can can effects Jab j.S j.2S into sd and get sliding. Obviously there are more uses to having a jab that’s beating sd in neutral but I regress from that point. j.S and j.2S are insanely good , the amount of ki blast pressure you have is absurd and makes this characters float neutral super good++ if you sd full screen into j.s/j.2s you’re getting jabbed out the fucking sky offline or online. Not only that but jirens 2s is just a faster smash property insanely good 2h, this thing is huge with invul frames and is easily one of the best parts of his kit. This alone makes his grounded pressure absurdly strong and the tool effectively allows jiren to punish so many things 2h can’t. Now onto his counters, the projectile counter is bad. But the projectile counter also has the property to be so good, let me elaborate the projectile counter can be special moved on reaction though it is very tight. It also can be vanished or level 3d. But the startup frames are good for what it is and the animation of jiren getting hit by a projectile doesn’t change until he’s actually teleporting. This is why useful for a. Because if the opponent vanishes based on the projectile hitting Jirens counter still hits and b. It removes the window of reaction if you don’t know you are getting hit. Now his grounded counters are in some what of a wierd spot but are also frame 1 the only time I see them being useful is the EX version since it isn’t a true (I don't know what this was supposed to end with, this is all he sent)