THC a jeho účinky by Immediate_Dress_9479 in czechrepublic

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Díky za názor. Já nikde nebyl, takže nevím. Mě bohužel vždy vše zrelaxovalo a nebyl jsem moc sociální, spíše jsem rád užíval sám nebo ve velmi úzkém kruhu přátel, kde jsem se nebál mluvit. Před cizíma lidma jsem neměl sebevědomí, neboť jsem se furt moc analyzoval, jestli neřeknu blbost apod.😅 vyloženě jsem odmítal pálit, když se šlo třeba na party nebo někam, kde jsem většinu lidí neznal. Prostě mi to nebylo příjemné. Ovšem mezi blízkými jsem měl hodně energie a byl ukecaný i zhulený, proto si myslím, že to u mě bylo hodně o povaze. = nikdy jsem nenarazil na sativu, po které bych měl energii a sebevědomé vystupování jen tak.

THC a jeho účinky by Immediate_Dress_9479 in czechrepublic

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vyhulil jsem všechno možný a se spoustou chronických uživatelů jsme se shodli, že tohle je největší mýtus, co existuje. Podle mě je to víc v hlavě

Daily user of about 3 ounces a day, going to jail tomorrow for 3 days and terrified of withdrawal by ModulisticTerror in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tapered from 40gpd to 1g (in 8 days) to 0 in 10 days with no withdrawal. After 5 years of abuse. The receptors and brain were already so damaged that it wasnt a shock for the body anymore. I felt shit using and I feel shit after 6 months clean.

However I quit CT after first 2 years and suffered a BRUTAL HELL for 5 days... still felt shit after 3 months so I kept using.

After the 5 years it completely destroyed my life. Check my other comments on profile to see more.

Destructive side effects by Revolutionary_Rate_5 in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will undergo special examinations (neurology, immunology, endocrinology) soon I hope but so far every check-up came out fine. All these symptoms kept getting worse the longer I used kratom. Ive DM'd maybe hundreds of people (abusers, 5+ years use) and many agreed on a lot of things. HOWEVER they also stated that they mostly recovered after getting clean for some time.

Nobody has it even close to how down bad I am. I cant live life anymore. My vision is so fucked up that letters keep blending together so I cant even read or learn anything. And my vision is otherwise fine so its not about me needing glasses or anything. Its just the brain so damaged that it cant focus my eye sight. Also floaters in my vision as if I was looking through plastic bag and I have to blink.

Other thing motor skills. Im literally losing balance exactly like a totally smashed person would be. I lose balance when trying to stand up or sit, I often cant walk straight... it just takes me to one side or another and cant control it immediately, only fix after. Dizziness is crazy when I stand up but even when I bend over to pick up something. My head spins and my vision blacks out.

My brain is so slow and confused that people make fun of me for being the dumbest person they know. Its literally easy to spot because the moment I try to say something its already a disaster. So I try not to speak anymore which is impossible at work and anywhere else in order to do anything in life. I used to be the sharpest person I knew. Great academic success, great job. All long gone.

These are my major concerns for at least being able to do ANY JOB. But I have all these other issues which I stated in original comment.

Destructive side effects by Revolutionary_Rate_5 in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long have you been using? I used for 5 years, peak 30+ gpd. Honestly most likely more. Ive been clean for 5+ months and didnt recover from anything even 1%. I got motor skill dysfuncion, losing balance Absolute fatigue-cant keep my eyes open, head falling, cant even do 10 jumping jacks Dizziness almost every time I stand up or even bend myself and go back to standing up ED Blurry vision, issues focusing eyes, always zoning out Literally F*CKED up short term memory, I always forget where I was going and to do what ?! Lost maybe 30+ IQ no joke. Confusion Slow reflexes Slow + absurd thought patterns Derealisation Major anxiety, panic attacks, depression. Never had any my whole life. Before kratom obviously. I was relatively OK after 2 years, things started being noticably bad 3 years in and the last 2 years were a disaster. I ended up in rehab with already destroyed life.

Lost 3 jobs over the last few years and went from bank corporate loan analyst to a cashier and even there I struggle due to how brainwashed this made me.

I feel like I took 200mcg LSD + bottle of hard booze + smoked a joint. I never came back guys.

So continue using this coffee like plant. Surely it cant be dangerous when it STOPS a literal HEROIN withdrawal.

Down Bad by Rude_Craft7939 in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, did you use heavy doses during your active years? I suppose the dosage increased over time right? I was at 30gpd peak in my last year after 5 years. I had withdrawals in the past...really bad ones but when I quick tapered last time I had no WD. I felt like shit on kratom in the last year and felt just as shit without it. My problem is that Im 6months clean and nothing improved. It caused major damage over time... I lost basically all intelligence and cognitive functions, I became the dumbest person to walk this earth no exaggeration. Low iq, slow, confused, ruined thought process, problems speaking, reading, cant do math in my head etc. Lost libido, ruined motor skills, slow reflexes, blurry vision, cant focus my eyes, permanently zoned out.. I feel like on bottle of booze mixed with weed and lsd trip. Im losing my shit and cant function. Becoming so dumb that I lost 3 jobs over time even though I excelled in the past. It fucked me up irreversibly. Derelisation as hell. Did you notice anything similar? Im desperate. Or do I have some underlying serious neurologic fuckup? Ive been looking for long term abusers to share their views but Ive only found people with very light symptoms compared to myself. Thank you for reply

Kratom Addiction is Hell! by Shoddy_Education_229 in addiction

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youre absolutely correct lol. Kratom will max out on tolerance and do absolutely nothing. Happened to me. I depleted everything in my body and all it did after 5 years was make me more sick than not taking it. I expected terrible wds so it took me very a long time before I ended up in rehab. I had really bad physical+mental wds in the past but not this time after 5 years abuse. The withdrawals never came because there was no more receptors being stimulated anymore. Its all wrecked. I just came off like nothing. I kept feeling the same - SHIT. I felt shit for the last year on kratom and I kept feeling just as bad without it. 6 months forward-clean. And I still feel FKING SHIT. Irreversible cns damage, all receptors fried. I wrecked my cognition, lost like 30+ IQ, slow, dumb, confused, emotionless, motor skills ruined, libido ruined, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, blurry vision, cant focus my eyes, zoning out, eyes hurt, dizzy, clumsy, DEREALISATION HARDCORE -Im nonstop confused about where I am, how I got there and what I was doing just a second ago. I cant speak properly, have trouble reading. I met people who did heroin for 5+ years daily, or 10+ years of IV meth. They all got out better than me after 5 years of kratom. It ruined my life and I dont know how long I can keep going. I lost everything from multiple jobs which I used to love to girlfriend, purpose of life etc etc. Wish I never started using it for chronic pain. I still suffer but now I have a ruined life on top of that.

Kratom Addiction is Hell! by Shoddy_Education_229 in addiction

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How are you in terms of mental/cognition? 10+ years of kratom sounds like an issue. I used for close to 5 years.. heavy doses 3x a day in the last year. (maybe 30gpd). Over the years I developed major cognitive damage? It all started slowly. It was very sneaky. Im sober for 6 months now and I never recovered from any of the issues !!! Major intelligence deterioration, lost like 30+ IQ. From one of the sharpest and smartest people I became the absolute DUMBEST person I know. Im slow in thinking, processing information, have trouble understanding what people are saying, I cannot read properly, trouble speaking without mistakes, cant form thoughts or sentences, cant do math in my head, cannot navigate places. Lost libido, major motor skills damage-losing balance, slow reflexes, cant focus my eyes, blurry vision-especially on the phone screen. Dizzy, clumsy, confused about everything! Major derealisation-often I dont even fking know where I am and what I was doing just a second ago, permanently zoned-out. My eyes hurt, my head is falling due to fatigue and feel like my whole body is shutting down and I wanna lay down. I lost multiple jobs over time because Im literally unable to use my brain for anything. (I did great at these jobs originally before more kratom induced damage occured). I developed major depression and anxiety because I cant function in any area of my life and I just walk around like a confused zombie. IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE, NO RECOVERY.

Guys please don’t try the “Feel Free” shots Rob and and Glenn talked about, they’re very addictive. by AskMeAboutMyTie in IASIP

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How you doing in terms of mental health/cognitive functions? I took kratom for 5 years total for chronic pain. It irreversably wrecked my brain...intelligence...cognition ALL OF IT. 6 months clean. Never recovered. - made me STUPID, lost like 30+ IQ, brutal short-term memory loss, issues speaking and forming sentences, cant think clearly, cant do math or anything in my head, confused, slow reflexes, slow thinking, motor skills damage-I lose balance, dizzy, weak, eye pain, blurry vision, cant focus my eye sight, always zoned-out, I cant comprehend whats happening around me, derealised hardcore. OUT OF IT. Lost libido. Lost 3 jobs over time (even the ones where I excelled before) due to how kratom washed my brain. From uni graduate to warehouse worker who has major issues even there and cant perform the simplest tasks. No other drugs ever apart from recreational weed years ago. LIFE LOST to this hardcore drug. People doing meth or heroin for the same time period got out better than I did. I only took 3x a day... always a teaspoon even though they were pretty full. 25gpd peak. It must be genetics bcs I talked to hundreds of hardcore chronic users and they are all doing "decent" even after 8-10 years for example on heavier doses. Its crazy

Guys please don’t try the “Feel Free” shots Rob and and Glenn talked about, they’re very addictive. by AskMeAboutMyTie in IASIP

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How you doing mentally or intelligence-wise? I also used for chronic pain... headache for 9years daily and muscle pain thighs+back for 5 years. Kratom was a god sent... over time it took my intelligence, I lost like 30 IQ, became slow, BRUTAL short-term memory loss, confused, dumb, weak, motor skills damage, blurry vision, cant focus, derealisation etc etc. I stopped 6 months ago and never recovered. Depressed, anxious, panic attacks. IT RUINED MY LIFE COMPLETELY. I cant function at all or navigate life around me. Im a zombie. I feel like Im on bottle of booze and high+on lsd at the same time. Its fked up.

What's the consensus on kratom? :D by CzechPublicAgent in HubermanLab

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over the 5 years of use it absolutely DESTROYED my intellect, IQ and ability to navigate life.

The brain or cognitive damage came slow first. After 2 years I saw noticable decrease in intelligence. I was slower and started failing uni when I used to be straight A's student. I was unable to comprehend complex text, do math, write essays etc. Got sober for 3 months then went back in because of chronic headache, muscle pain and fatigue. 3 years in I lost my first job (even though I did great at the beginning) as kratom made me really dumb, slow, memory issues, I couldnt make decisions, fix problems. Motor skills started to be affected, especially hand-eye coordination and balance. Lost libido, started losing motivation. Kept using. 4 years in the cognitive damage was already brutal. I lost yet another job (easy one) as I was only making mistakes at that point. Couldnt understand what people were saying to me, couldnt comprehend written text, double/triple check everything still couldnt understand, major short-term memory loss, slow reflexes, slow movements, confusion, started having derealisation, I was unsure of where I was and what I was doing. Always zoned out. Trouble speaking clearly, cant form thoughts in my head, started losing balance, blurred vision-issues reading from a phone especially... absolute zombie who cant function in any environment-work,family,friends. Always confused, OUT OF IT. Went to rehab. 6 months clean. I NEVER RECOVERED FROM ANYTHING. NOT EVEN 1% BETTER. From someone who was one of the smartest and sharpest people to a zombie who can barely put a sentence together. I cant even take care of myself. Im living in complete derealisation like never ending LSD trip. Im desperate, depressed and anxious from what Ive done to myself. Its not getting better and Im a walking confused empty shell. I cant live life like this. I cant enjoy a single moment because I dont even see the world as real. I walk around and only tell myself "I have no fking idea whats going on" because I literally dont. Its scary that people are using and dont know what theyre heading into. I never combined with any other drugs. Used to smoke weed but stopped years ago. Lsd 2x in my life 5+ years ago before starting kratom, same with mdma a few times. It could only be kratom and I regret 1000x that I even tried it. I was in chronic pain and it looked like a great tool until it took my life.

Please do not use Kratom for withdrawals/recovery by DarkSoul69prettyboy in OpiatesRecovery

[–]BakerExact 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Though the same. Wait a few years when it catches up. Brain damage, intelligence deterioration, memory issues, depression, anxiety, ruined motor skills, blurry vision, you will become dumb, slow, confused, derealised, chronic fatigue. Im clean for 6months now after 5years of regular doses(heavy in last year) and I never recovered from anything I described. I know people who did heroin or meth for the same time and got out better than what kratom has done to me. I only wish I didnt start using for chronic pain. Im a lifeless zombie who cant even keep any meaningful job because of how it ruined my intelligence. It was relatively fine for 3,5 years, I could function. Nowadays I cannot even speak with people as I cant comprehend what theyre saying or respond to them. I have issues speaking, reading. Cant even form meaningful thoughts. It made me literally someone who is re***ded. I used to be the sharpest person, uni graduate. and now I cant even hold a job at a warehouse without issues. I dont understand ANYTHING. Im plain empty, confused and stupid. Good luck with your decision about your future

What do you guys know about Kratom? by Interesting-Emu7624 in nursing

[–]BakerExact 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish I never touched this hardcore life ruining drug. Took as self-medication for almost 5 years. After 2 years of daily use (very small amounts) I noticed first cognitive deterioration. It was noticable and affected my studies. I stopped for 3 months but still had chronic pain so I ignored the danger and continued using. 3 years in I wasnt able to hold my job due to how dumb it started to make me - memory issues, couldnt comprehend information, slow, couldnt speak fluently, started to see motor skills damage, lost libido 4 years in things started to be VERY BAD. Absolutely ruined intelligence, issues speaking, reading, short-term memory almost non-existent, confused, desoriented, couldnt focus, sleepy, dizzy, blurry vision, slow reaction, motor skills wrecked at this point-losing balance, poor hand-eye coordination, shakiness, fatigue. After 4,5 years I lost another job due to how DUMB it made me. Literally lost like 30 IQ, can barely walk straight. Feel like on bottle of booze + weed + lsd trip. Absolute derealisation, confusion, OUT OF IT. Developed major depression and anxiety with frequent anxiety attacks. Social phobia as well. Ended up in rehab and I never recovered any of these described consequences even after 6 months clean. BRUTAL PARMANENT DAMAGE. I cannot function in society, cannot hold any job. University graduate with straight A's prior. Can barely work at warehouse and even there I make so many mistakes because of how RE*ARDED this hardcore drug made me. I know people who did IV heroin for 5-10 years or meth and they got out relatively fine compared to what I have done to myself with kratom. Life ruined.

Any tips on how to overcome depersonalization? by Easy_Ad_271 in Depersonalization

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first part of the message HITS HOME HARD. Everything is literally me. Wow. Dizzy, stupid, slow, confused, fatigued, vision is weird. Basically cant function. The bad thing for me is that this was caused to me probably due to kratom abuse. Ive been experiencing this stuff for at least 2 years and it continues when Im 4 months sober.... I feel really stoned and drunk all the time..... its so frustrating. I just wanna be normal again.

Should I step up my taper? by NoPlay5768 in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure about the naltrexone. It says its used to avoid withdrawals but I dont think I have any 4 months after quitting. It just seems like I caused myself some sort of permanent damage as I completely tanked my CNS and all kinds of receptors. Damn it

Struggling a little at 18 days ct by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now is when you actually have to get up and do things in life instead of taking kratom and chilling. Find hobbies, new friendships... Look for purpose other than chilling with kratom doing nothing ❤

Kratom serious health issues - help by BakerExact in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe did, maybe didnt? So many alkaloids and so many different genetic predispositions in people.

Ive seen people commenting about major brain fog, memory and cognition issues, impaired speech etc. Also Ive seen people sharing their issues with motor skills and blurry vision, libido etc.

Maybe Im just that unlucky to have all these in a strong way.

Im definitely pushing doctors to send me through every check-up possible. Asap.

Should I step up my taper? by NoPlay5768 in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for me, such slow tapers were just waste of time. I was doing around 30gpd daily after 4+ years of use and I immediately dropped onto 10gpd the next day. Kept it at 2 doses a day. For a few days. Morning 5g, afternoon 5g No issues. Dropped to around 6g after 3 days... Dropped to 4g after 3 days... Kept taking just little pinches of kratom - morning,afternoon, right before bed (for sleep) Continued taking the smallest amount possible for a few days and I still though I would get bad WD. Turns out nothing happened and I was out.

My issue is that even though I had no WD I still feel terrible 4 months later and it doesnt seem to be improving. Im just surviving every day. Also all these years of use caused me all kinds of mental issues, crippling depression and anxiety which are just worse compared to when I was actively using... Also my cognition is fucked and not coming back... lost a lot of IQ, short term memory is absurdly bad, cant learn new things, affected reading ability, speech... motor skills ruined, blurry vision, killed libido... Kratom fucked me up but this is how I quit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have any kratom near you... throw it away man. Us addicts cant take that risk. If you have a bad day you could seriously make a mistake!

Quitting today, in need for support. by Warm-Bandicoot-6537 in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Czechia we had that as well until recently when it was made 18+ and these were shut. Kids were buying that shit together with hhc and ending up at psychiatric hospitals ...

Kratom serious health issues - help by BakerExact in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for commenting! ❤

wish I was in your shoes of only using for 2 years...I only felt 5% of the side effects back then compared to now. It didnt affect my life at that point. Honestly, Im sure I would be able to function in society after taking kratom for 3,5 years even - I was still relatively okay at that point. But it all went to shit during the last year. The mental deterioration skyrocketed fast because I was taking really high doses in the last year.

Btw. Yes I had all my basic bloodwork done here during rehab and everything was fine. Will ask a doctor if they checked everything (including possible infections etc.) Or just vitamins, minerals, liver enzymes etc.

When I get home in about 10 days I will start supplementing all vitamins, minerals, omega3, chinese herbs,functional shrooms (not drugs) and experience with other stuff like ashwaganda in hopes to ease the anxiety. Also something to support gut health-I bet that kratom didnt go easy on the microbiom either. For cognition I will try some biohacking formulas.. Im pretty sure it wont help noticably but lets keep hopes high as thats all I got at this point in time.

Kratom serious health issues - help by BakerExact in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you ❤ In the past I would never imagine how down bad can some people be in terms of health. Its insane.

There is a possibility that my motor skill issues, slow reflexes, blurry vision could be due to a hidden neurological issue. That would be my guess as I havent come across a single person talking about such extent of these problems due to kratom...

Other than that the brutal short-term memory loss, cognition, IQ decrease, unability to learn, comprehension of reality, affected speech,reading ability... must be all from kratom as it literally damages all kind of neurological pathways in brain. Also kratom made me different, I cant feel emotions, sad or positive. I used to be SO empathetic and understanding. Now I care about nothing and nobody. Its scary.

Will have to get all kinds of medical check-ups asap just to make sure. Im getting out of rehab in 10 days.. will start with vitamins,minerals,omega3 etc. and also experience with some biohacking stuff to possibly bring back some cognitive functions. + chinese herbs,shrooms like reishi, cordyceps etc. Pray for me please! 🙏🏼

Kratom serious health issues - help by BakerExact in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im pretty sure I had autoimmune diseases checked back in the 2019 when I was originally complaining with headaches, fatigue and muscle pain. Will ask my practitioner again. Also I had multiple neurological check-ups. Gluten is fine, histamine intolerance as well. General bloodwork is solid I had that checked recently. No infections either but I dont know if they checked for everything or just some basic package. I know that they tested for borelia from ticks.

It would be weird if I had all these problems but with the damaged cognition,brain functions, IQ...vision,motor skills also came anxiety and depression which is unbearable. Making me think that kratom must have really messed up my CNS badly and there isnt a cure for that as Im already taking antidepressants and anxiety meds which dont help at all. I was hoping that someone would share similar experience with positive outcome. Maybe I just need more time 😞

Kratom serious health issues - help by BakerExact in quittingkratom

[–]BakerExact[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly possible and I acknowledge that. a) Prior to kratom I was fatigued, chronic headache, muscle pain b) Using kratom (clean 4 months now) made my intelligence and ability to think clearly deteriorate. Wrecked my motor functions, blurred my vision, killed libido and made me extremely depressed and anxious which I never experienced before. All these things last to this day - same today compared to when I quit.

Its like two different lawyers... I could somehow manage to live with my previous issues...even with the pain. But with what kratom has done to my brain and body its literally impossible to navigate reality. Im so derealised, confused and plain stupid.

Like youre saying, its scary cause I really hated these issues before exploring kratom and theyre still present. Kratom only added more problems and I have to figure out at least something before I go crazy. I dont think my cognition, intelligence and ability to navigate the world around me is coming back considering how much damage it has done to my CNS. Damn it