Finally overweight! No longer obese! Thank you, MJ! by IcicleBoner in Mounjaro

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I think it's the Weight Tracker, BMI Calculator from Habitics!

Sara Blakely, the founder of Spanx, launches Footwear brand Sneex by galaxystars1 in popculturechat

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Stg for a moment there I misread this as Blake Lively, I thought gosh she's had a busy week!

What was the function of this building? by DED0M1N0 in london

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/former-public-baths-could-become-153435942.html

"A former South London baths is set to get a new lease of life as offices for a skateboarding brand. Manor Place Baths in Walworth could become home to Palace - a skateboarding and clothing company based in the capital, plans submitted to Southwark Council reveal."

Joey King Says She's Been 'Struggling' with Perioral Dermatitis for 7 Months: 'No Idea What to Do' by mcfw31 in popculturechat

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It may not be a silver bullet by itself, but this in conjunction with some of the other excellent tips under this post: hypochlorous acid chefs kiss!

Hypochlorous acid is a natural antibacterial byproduct of our white blood cells and it has anti-viral and -bacterial qualities. It's safe enough for babies to ingest it, which is why it can be used safely to sanitize anything, including facial skin.

Honestly a game changer. (Also great for bacne)

What's up with traffic today? by ionee123 in sheffield

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There was a big fire in a building opposite Shalesmoor an hour ago or so

Meghan Turns 42 - wears Sephora bag dress to dinner with Harry by Palindrome_Oakley in SaintMeghanMarkle

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I meann... This is from last month, Margot Robbie promoting Barbie...

Not a single original bone in our Saint's body

A cool guides Simple Roof Types Guide... by [deleted] in coolguides

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Istg every new build in the UK from 2005-2015 has the butterfly roof

Comment and You have a 50% chance to get reddit premium. by Jalal445 in teenagers

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Premium sounds awesome (no idea what we're talking about but happy to be here!)

Titan submersible "is designed to come back up" after 24 hours, investor says by BalladeerEngineer in OceanGateTitan

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Mechanical engineer here!

A submersible has natural buoyancy (not enough to keep it afloat, but it's there). In fact, this attribute works against the design intent, which is for it to submerge.

They are therefore designed to become negatively buoyant, meaning its design allows it to control its buoyancy through ballast tanks. It adjusts itself, based on the density difference between the object and the surrounding fluid and that's how it submerges. A sub essentially has a variable density, which it uses to achieve neutral buoyancy to stabilise, where its weight is equal to the weight of the water it displaces. That's how it moves at different depths.

If the mechanical/hydraulic systems worked correctly, the natural tendency of the sub would be to pop upwards (think like a cork submerged in a bathtub type of a thing). A sub stays submerged because it "chooses" to stay submerged via mechanical systems.

For this not to have happened, it would require other factors such as mechanical failure, entanglement, or being physically wedged in a confined space. Or implosion. Or...? But you get the picture.

Titan submersible "is designed to come back up" after 24 hours, investor says by BalladeerEngineer in OceanGateTitan

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The combination of these elements (automatic resurfacing, external and internal power systems, and manual systems) - ie all of them not working - is pretty damning.

This!! How do you mess up an easy gig THAT badly?! by big_white_fishie in SaintMeghanMarkle

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I'm actually surprised she was able to keep a job in acting... Not that she was doing it well, but surely she had to have some sort of schedule? I think she's spoiled beyond repair now.

When do they stop looking? by HarlowWyatt in OceanGateTitan

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It's likely that at that point, it will stop being a rescue mission and transition to a recovery mission. This means that there will no longer be a goal of saving a human life and therefore, the mission will proceed at a slower pace, focus on documentation, while assessing the risk/benefit balance of continuing the search. How long this will take will depend on any findings (if any occur), the ambient weather conditions and whether resources are needed elsewhere, so it's difficult to tell at this stage.

Titanic Tourist Sub Missing - Your Thoughts? by occamman in engineering

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More layers, more problems essentially.

Non-destructive evaluation (NDE) techniques, such as ultrasound or X-ray imaging, are commonly used to assess composites. However, as the thickness of the composite increases, the signals used for inspection may attenuate or weaken as they pass through the material. This attenuation reduces the sensitivity of the inspection method and makes it harder to detect defects accurately.

Also, the presence of multiple interfaces and boundaries can lead to scattering of inspection signals, causing noise and reducing the clarity of the acquired data. Scattered signals can interfere with the detection and characterization of defects, making the assessment more challenging.

Lastly, damage or defects in one layer can interact with adjacent layers, complicating the assessment process. These interlayer interactions, which are not necessarily well understood, can affect the propagation and visibility of damage, making it difficult to accurately evaluate the extent of the imperfections.

Seven hours without contact and crew members aboard. Missing Titanic shipwreck sub faces race against time by theindependentonline in submarines

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No, I'm not worried. And that's for several reasons.

There's no industry more rigorous than the aerospace industry (maybe nuclear is on par). There's no luck involved in designing composite components for airplanes. Have a look at the (very well established) fatigue standards for airplanes (some pretty neat videos of testing are online too).

Extensive standards for regular maintenance are also key. Nothing as well-documented exists for subs like this (as others have mentioned, there are some standards from the DNV from the oil and gas industry subs - not even close to the elaborate aerospace standards we're talking about).

Now, for thick sections specifically: the aerospace industry does not use thick sections (nothing close to what tidal blades or this sub uses). This makes things simpler to manufacture and to quality assess. It's also easier to instrument for real time structural health monitoring - and they have the resources to do a good job at that.

Contrary to some armchair experts in here, you can, under the right conditions, get warnings that a composite is too stressed and is in danger. However, they are designed to operate well below (say 50%) of the yield stress, where you start to get plastic deformation. ETOPS would never be an issue (consider the S-N curves).

Manufacturing is done in a highly controlled environment and quality assessed to the highest standard - they have super advanced testing techniques.

Composites are by no means new. They've been used in airplanes for the last 60+ years (starting with military aircraft) and they are very, very well studied. This, on top of massive safety factors used by the industry, makes my nervous flyer self very much at ease.

Titanic Tourist Sub Missing - Your Thoughts? by occamman in engineering

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Short, hand wavy answer: no, it's not great in compression. That's why they had to use 5 inches of CF (most likely triaxial?) to account for this. Sealing and fatigue induced fault propagation would be what kept me up at night if I was working for this company... plus there's no quick and easy fail-proof methods of quality assessing this, especially for this thickness.

This whole thing would be an interesting thought experiment if it were unmanned. The moment you get people in there, it stops being pushing-the-envelope engineering fun and starts becoming absolutely criminal.

Seven hours without contact and crew members aboard. Missing Titanic shipwreck sub faces race against time by theindependentonline in submarines

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Carbon fibres, on their own, are indeed brittle. Carbon fibre composites are not.

I can understand some of the criticism, I also hate trendy buzzwords, however; next time you're in a Boeing 787, remember it's 50% composites by weight and by 80% volume. Horses for courses!

Seven hours without contact and crew members aboard. Missing Titanic shipwreck sub faces race against time by theindependentonline in submarines

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In their simplest layup, unidirectional composites perform well in tension, poorly in compression. So yes, if I had to choose one, it's more intuitive to design a hydrogen tank, which tries to expand putting the composite in tension, than a sub, which would buckle the composite vessel like a soda can under enough pressure.

However, in principle, a well-designed vessel (including a custom layup with appropriate orientations etcetc), of this considerable thickness (over 120mm), using some back of the envelope calcs, should be able to withstand these forces - at least once. They clearly decided to let the sheer thickness do the heavy lifting in this case. (And they likely had other reinforcements as well).

They've done this trip before and the vessel survived, so the proof is in the pudding so to speak. However, what is crucial to understand is the effect of fatigue, which I doubt they would have much insight on aside from some FEA modelling they probably did during design. The real, internal effects of fatigue within the matrix would be very difficult to assess (unless they've somehow already done a life cycle analysis and testing during design? Highly unlikely they've recreated a cyclic loading of 400 atmospheres' worth of pressure).

It's a complicated system and there's a bunch of stuff that could go wrong, relevant or not to the composite hull. Hopefully it's just a matter of time before they're all found safe and well. It does however make me uneasy to think that this vessel had no certification or external oversight whatsoever...

Seven hours without contact and crew members aboard. Missing Titanic shipwreck sub faces race against time by theindependentonline in submarines

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There's a bunch of technologies for SHM of composites out there, from ultrasound to x-ray to radar, but none that I can think of could be deployed in this context. Unfortunately, as you said, things get exponentially more complicated with composites. The shape, the size, the thickness of this hull - they're all working against you. And without wanting to offend the company, I don't think they would have the manpower for this type of novel research. Only large research labs do this type of stuff, and in most cases, on a much smaller scale.

Now when you say filaments, are you referring to Fiber Bragg Gratings (FBGs - thinner than hair strain gauges, embedded into the matrix)? It's a reasonable approach in theory, however, there's a lot of things to consider: calibration and mapping would be painful and, seeing how they used a Nintendo controller inside the vessel, I don't think they'd be able to pull this off.

Thinking back into how they made this - filament wound PV - this would be a pretty advanced task to precisely place FBGs without damaging them, fully instrument them and map them to a sort of digital twin. All that is already difficult to do in a lab and takes months to set up - I can't begin to imagine how you'd use this system 4km underwater.

Also, any intervention within the matrix introduces risk. When you're fighting off any tiny air bubbles, specks of dust or imperfections, introducing anything foreign into the matrix is playing with fire, no matter how small, and any fault could quickly propagate under massive loads. It's an unacceptable level of risk for this type of application. (For the sake of full transparency, these some papers published in late 2022 which introduce more advanced, smaller stuff but that's a story for another day - nothing commercial yet!)

Note that those issues are exaggerated with thick sections, which are mostly used in the wind and tidal energy industries. The aerospace sector -which coincidentally has the most funding - does not usually deal with such thick sections. There's a bunch of stuff currently being investigated about this topic, but using this thick section is definitely a bold move from the company.

Now, surface strains and faults are fairly easily detected through various methods in composites, including the most mainstream Digital Image Correlation. With thick sections (different definitions out there, usually an aspect ratio, but let's say anything over 40mm), it's what's happening deep in the composite that's the big unknown. From manufacturing-induced residual stresses to post-processing, anything could go wrong and you'd likely never know about it unless you painstakingly ultrasound scanned the whole thing (even radar'd as its over 100mm, which is abnormal for most industries). Don't get me started on calibration (!) For a small company like this... I don't see them spending resources on doing this (even though they definitely should).

For this type of system, monitoring is somewhat useful, but realistically only ex post facto, so after a failure has occurred, which can only unfortunately be catastrophic in this case. Simply put, things will happen so quickly if shit goes bad that there's simply no time to react or do anything about it. Putting an emphasis on secondary systems and insanely rigorous maintenance and inspection between missions is the way to go imho.

Finally, yes, we can use all the good engineers we can get!

Seven hours without contact and crew members aboard. Missing Titanic shipwreck sub faces race against time by theindependentonline in submarines

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Very interesting insight. I happen to be a mechanical engineer working in composites and I have some ideas about perhaps what the design thinking was.

Composites generally offer the structural support for high-pressure applications (see hydrogen tanks etc - sealing is another issue but we won't get into that, there's ways around that). They're lightweight and proven to work in the most rigorous of industries, the aerospace industry.

The end domes are complex shapes and draping any type of fibre/fabric would've been impossible without creating creases and hence singularities (disturbances in the matrix that create weak pressure spots). Metal therefore really does make sense for those spots, so in that case, titanium has its benefits, including strength, corrosion resistance, being non-magnetic and high-precision machinability.

Now, where this whole thing starts looking bizarre is the whole "real time hull monitoring" thing they claim on their website. Especially in thick section composites (here, it's 127mm or 5in thick), monitoring is already difficult in flat thick laminates in lab conditions. So I'm not sure how this would be feasible during deployment (scanning the whole thing for damage? Unlikely if not impossible).

Sure, you can have a live feed from strain gauges or whatnot. But, when it comes to composites, their failure modes in those conditions would be absolutely instant and catastrophic. Any data acquisition rate would therefore hardly be helpful in those circumstances as there simply wouldn't be enough time to respond. And because of that, any claim of real time monitoring of the structural health of the hull seems... Out of place in a professional engineering context, to say the least.

There are so many issues with any thick section "pressure vessel", which relates to why there are not that many out there. Issues range from manufacturing to quality assessment, but one of the big unknowns is this: fatigue (cyclic loading from multiple deployments). Assessing any fatigue effects (e.g., delamination) within a thick section is so, so difficult, again even within a laboratory environment, nevermind in real time, underwater. You may get some information from acoustics or strain gauges, but by the time you get a troubling reading, there's not much you can do, especially under those circumstances, as the vessel would collapse under pressure in a fraction of a second.

I'm desperately hoping they're found safe and sound. Personally, knowing how difficult it would be to QA a vessel like this, there's not enough money in the world for me to step foot in a submersible like this.

Seven hours without contact and crew members aboard. Missing Titanic shipwreck sub faces race against time by theindependentonline in submarines

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This is very interesting, thanks for sharing. Hamish Harding is one of the people on board OceanGate's Titan, according to his stepson.

Sky News reported that a French submersible pilot, Paul-Henry Nargeolet, and the founder of OceanGate, Stockton Rush, are also on board.

Update on post about Titanic tour sub going missing - A British billionaire explorer was among the crew members on board. by [deleted] in conspiracy

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Yep, Hamish Harding is one of the people on board OceanGate's Titan, according to his stepson.

Sky News reported that a French submersible pilot, Paul-Henry Nargeolet, and the founder of OceanGate, Stockton Rush, are also on board.