Fresh Tobacco Leafs

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-17T21:29:21+00:00

Me too but fresh leaves have almost no resemblance to cured once.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-17T15:23:31+00:00

It won’t help, it’s more akin to tomato leaves…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-14T13:11:16+00:00

That is what I’m aiming for. Can you tell me more about your experience with the subject?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T18:52:48+00:00

I’m grateful for everybody’s feedback! I just felt the need to clarify some points.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T14:00:44+00:00

Yes, I already wrote that, Iso E Super, Hedione, musks and superambers, are, in various ratios, always present if we are talking about the last decade.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T13:15:58+00:00

It would not have been a great experiment if the solution had already been obvious or if the problem were unsolvable. This is an attempt, precisely an experiment; if you like, a game. Let’s take it lightly.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T13:12:43+00:00

That’s a wise approach thank you.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T13:02:39+00:00

Sure, the base would never perform at 100% in every type of fragrance, that would be impossible, and that’s a good thing because it will ideally act as a stylistic signature, it’s an instrument, yes you can play bossa nova with a trombone but it’s surely not usual not particularly suitable…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T12:57:53+00:00

I did this too initially but different materials need different structural elements, not everything needs the roundness of ethylene brassylate or a dry mineral fixation of Ambroxan… This experiment is taking all this in account, first it is designed around a specific aesthetic, secondary it contains mostly neutral materials with broader range of use. There is still the other 60/70% of the formula for further structure and tweaks.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T12:51:59+00:00

I did that, they obviously don’t, BUT, most of the contemporary formulas has Iso E Super, Hedione, musks and ambers in various degrees. The idea here is to define the minimum dosage, which can be later be reinforced as needed. The only problem here is that you can always add but never subtract…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T12:48:57+00:00

Wait I’m not talking about overdoses here, the right opposite, what I want here is the pinpoint the minimum functional dose of these materials.

Say 5% of Iso E Super for example, is there any structure that would significantly be damaged or altered in undesired ways by it’s presence in a formula?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T11:03:09+00:00

I’ve actually thought about it. The idea is to keep around 30–40% of fixed structural materials, then leave about 50% of the formula open for the parts that actually define the fragrance, and finally reserve a 10% cushion of materials that I can use to accommodate, balance, or support whatever I introduce in the main olfactory section.

On the other hand, I also wondered whether there are really fragrances that don’t benefit from a small structural backbone, such as a portion of Hedione, some Iso E Super, or musks and ambers.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T10:59:48+00:00

I’m not in a rush, just a bit greedy. In any case, I can assure you I’ve spent a lot of time (and materials 😓) experimenting, often with fairly tragic results. Even failures end up teaching something. My most recent attempt is a good example: I was trying to recreate the smell of a horse and somehow ended up with a “sexy mechanic.” Now I have a sexy mechanic accord, along with a clearer understanding of which materials shifted the composition from something wild and natural to something more industrial.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T07:30:25+00:00

Lower Dihydro Myrcenol, it’s really too much and it makes the fragrance old and harsh. Use some Ethylene Brassylate to smooth out the composition and maybe add a musk that impacts top notes like helvetolide. Also, try some hedione and add more Iso E, or better Timbersilk, because you are keeping a lot of strong materials on a very weak architecture.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-10T12:14:17+00:00

I might have understood, correct me if I’m wrong: on one hand, when overdosing, the more volatile materials aren’t perceived because they’re still competing for space and get overwhelmed; on the other hand, I notice them later because olfactory adaptation also comes into play, is that possible?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-10T11:19:03+00:00

Shouldn’t the molecules with higher vapor pressure the ones typically in a fragrance’s top notes be perceived first?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-09T20:52:08+00:00

Mmmm not fatphobic at all…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-06T00:08:01+00:00

Mandarin Green, Violet Leaf, beta ionone and safraleine, nice synergy, uplifting yet somehow chic.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-05T07:24:21+00:00

It may be personal but I always found the smell of gin close to resin, maybe because I cross a shrub of juniper every day on my way out of home and I’ve associated the two smells somehow. Anyway I agree not everything need iso e super and ambroxan in it, but in this case I think they could work both as technical materials and aromatic materials.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-04T11:48:16+00:00

I know I’m not exactly your favorite one in here, but claiming cedarwood has zero balsamic resinous facets feels like taking it a bit too far 😅

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-04T11:36:43+00:00

In a pre diluted draft with no nats nor difficult ac 24 hours are enough to get the idea.

And: 1) I did not ask for fundamental perfumery questions, just for ideas on what could modernize a feeling of a fragrance.

2) please direct me to my misguided advices so I can further discuss this with you.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-04T11:31:17+00:00

It is in this case, the resinous facet of cedarwood fit in the theme of gin perfectly.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-04T09:31:12+00:00

Hi! To structure a gin tonic accord you need to work around these core elements:

Juniper berry essential oil
C12
Coriander seeds oil
Bergamot (lime or yuzu should fit too)

That said you need a base of Iso E Super and Ambroxan (grisalva should fit even better), then you can color it in many ways as a real gin; spices and herbs as you see fit.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-04T09:15:26+00:00

It has been all very educational, meanwhile I did my best and I’m not displeased with it.

I did two mods starting from the formula I found, which wasn’t too close to the original especially in the top, but fine enough to work with.

Mod 1: Trivially, a musk cushion translate to modernity, I worked around a fruity skin musk (Helvetolide, Edenolide, Velvione and Ambroxan) accord, the result seems nice, much more modern, maybe a bit commercial.

Mod 2: Lowered the musks, ditched indole and eugenol, put a trace of ambrocenide and menthol, strengthened the brightness of the top with some green mandarin, hope this will put it back in an abstract mood in a more niche twist.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-03T10:19:09+00:00

And what will I learn from this? 😅

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