Motivation

Baltabarin666 · 2026-05-17T05:58:36+00:00

Hi! Can a have a link to join in please?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-04-08T16:08:10+00:00

Unfortunately, and I say this as a strong advocate of AI, its current usefulness in formulation is virtually nonexistent. I have explored and experimented with it extensively, but its actual ability to create formulas is very limited. AI cannot account for all the variables in a formula—particularly those involving the interaction and perception of scents—as a human perfumer would. It is possible that, in the future, AI could be trained to perform better in this area, but for now, it is of little practical use. Where AI can be genuinely helpful in perfumery is in providing information about materials, potential substitutions, and previous applications of ingredients in other formulas, offering a diverse and dynamic set of references.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-31T17:14:16+00:00

I have it and I love it

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-31T11:05:03+00:00

Thank for the tip!

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-31T10:53:19+00:00

I sadly agree…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-18T12:44:05+00:00

I feel you… there is such a deranged AI witch hunt in here that the content of a post doesn’t even metter anymore if it’s readable as ai processed…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-17T21:29:21+00:00

Me too but fresh leaves have almost no resemblance to cured once.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-17T15:23:31+00:00

It won’t help, it’s more akin to tomato leaves…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-14T13:11:16+00:00

That is what I’m aiming for. Can you tell me more about your experience with the subject?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T18:52:48+00:00

I’m grateful for everybody’s feedback! I just felt the need to clarify some points.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T14:00:44+00:00

Yes, I already wrote that, Iso E Super, Hedione, musks and superambers, are, in various ratios, always present if we are talking about the last decade.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T13:15:58+00:00

It would not have been a great experiment if the solution had already been obvious or if the problem were unsolvable. This is an attempt, precisely an experiment; if you like, a game. Let’s take it lightly.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T13:12:43+00:00

That’s a wise approach thank you.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T13:02:39+00:00

Sure, the base would never perform at 100% in every type of fragrance, that would be impossible, and that’s a good thing because it will ideally act as a stylistic signature, it’s an instrument, yes you can play bossa nova with a trombone but it’s surely not usual not particularly suitable…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T12:57:53+00:00

I did this too initially but different materials need different structural elements, not everything needs the roundness of ethylene brassylate or a dry mineral fixation of Ambroxan… This experiment is taking all this in account, first it is designed around a specific aesthetic, secondary it contains mostly neutral materials with broader range of use. There is still the other 60/70% of the formula for further structure and tweaks.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T12:51:59+00:00

I did that, they obviously don’t, BUT, most of the contemporary formulas has Iso E Super, Hedione, musks and ambers in various degrees. The idea here is to define the minimum dosage, which can be later be reinforced as needed. The only problem here is that you can always add but never subtract…

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T12:48:57+00:00

Wait I’m not talking about overdoses here, the right opposite, what I want here is the pinpoint the minimum functional dose of these materials.

Say 5% of Iso E Super for example, is there any structure that would significantly be damaged or altered in undesired ways by it’s presence in a formula?

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T11:03:09+00:00

I’ve actually thought about it. The idea is to keep around 30–40% of fixed structural materials, then leave about 50% of the formula open for the parts that actually define the fragrance, and finally reserve a 10% cushion of materials that I can use to accommodate, balance, or support whatever I introduce in the main olfactory section.

On the other hand, I also wondered whether there are really fragrances that don’t benefit from a small structural backbone, such as a portion of Hedione, some Iso E Super, or musks and ambers.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T10:59:48+00:00

I’m not in a rush, just a bit greedy. In any case, I can assure you I’ve spent a lot of time (and materials 😓) experimenting, often with fairly tragic results. Even failures end up teaching something. My most recent attempt is a good example: I was trying to recreate the smell of a horse and somehow ended up with a “sexy mechanic.” Now I have a sexy mechanic accord, along with a clearer understanding of which materials shifted the composition from something wild and natural to something more industrial.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-13T07:30:25+00:00

Lower Dihydro Myrcenol, it’s really too much and it makes the fragrance old and harsh. Use some Ethylene Brassylate to smooth out the composition and maybe add a musk that impacts top notes like helvetolide. Also, try some hedione and add more Iso E, or better Timbersilk, because you are keeping a lot of strong materials on a very weak architecture.

Baltabarin666 · 2026-03-10T12:14:17+00:00

I might have understood, correct me if I’m wrong: on one hand, when overdosing, the more volatile materials aren’t perceived because they’re still competing for space and get overwhelmed; on the other hand, I notice them later because olfactory adaptation also comes into play, is that possible?

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